CaptainBeerDude wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Quick to mend is okay would be better as healing done though. the rest is rubbish where is disease damage in this game and what poison isn't telegraphed by a stupid circle? EP already has one tank race, the nord so we don't need 2 especially in the meta. to balance it we need better healing passives because a high elf or Breton can use our "signature weapon" so much better than any Argonian.

I think disease is the healing debuff effects. WW claws do disease damage.

Isn't their a disease enchant aswell

Why does every class and every thing in the game need to be balanced?!?

I chose my argonian for the looks, not some passive. Mostly because she looks cool with the white skull paint on her face. But she doesn't look too good in the sexy outifts though. For that I have my Wood Elf.

Ayalaya wrote: »

Why does every class and every thing in the game need to be balanced?!?

I chose my argonian for the looks, not some passive. Mostly because she looks cool with that white skull paint in her face.

This statement has been mirrored in this discussion, and other discussions in the past. I get it, you chose your Argonian for style reasons. You know what? So did the rest of us, or at least most of us. I made my character an Argonian Nightblade for style reasons (they're supposed to be good guerrilla warfare experts and skirmishers). I also did it because I had a very specific potion build in mind that has changed quite a lot. Lets set that aside a moment though.

How can anyone say that the numbers don't matter? This is not a single player game. A huge part of this game's advertisement and marketing touted its RvRvR pvp system. You guys don't think racial balance should have at least a place in the discussion? That's like saying classes shouldn't be balanced or at least close to it, because its just a style choice you pick. That's all well and good, until Cyrodiil becomes filled with only the class that is the 'good one' mathematically. People don't want to go into a boxing match with one arm tied behind their back. So I can respect the opinion that the race is playable, even fun. I know that because I play one as well, and do my best to make the most of him. You know what the problem is though? The Argonian's highest and best use really doesn't fit the role historically that Argonians played in the series, and that's something I find odd. The stats don't quite align with the way the Argonians were played in the past either. I'd like to point out for the sake of theme, that it is a little odd that Nords and Orcs (even Khajiit) have significantly better health regeneration than Argonians, which is just bizarre. I think the potion bonus and healing received is meant to be a nod at Argonian histskin but it doesn't have that same feeling. It also means that an Argonian Sorcerer can't make the same good use of his passives as a Nightblade, Templar, or DK. Its like we're playing a completely different species of Argonian that came from Akavir or something.

I just wish they'd implement a race change option already. I've tried to work with the Argonian passives and it's just too much of a hassle. First, the glyphs of potion speed don't work, so we can't take advantage of the potion passive to get regen or use Clever Alchemist to boost damage. ZOS won't even acknowledge the bug. Being an Argonian is just annoying at this point.trying to get ZOS to do anything of substance is worse than pulling teeth. It took years to even get what we have now. There's no hope for Argonians. ZOS just doesn't see the glaring issues.

Plus, burning through all those potions is prohibitively expensive. An Argonian Clever Alchemist build is for the Trumps of the game.

Being an Argonian is too much work. That's the problem. It's too much work to make an Argonian competitive in this game.

I just wish we could get a race change option. This game and Argonians don't resemble what they once were years ago when I created this character. They take one step forward but than they nerf the game to offset the Argonians' buff. We're chasing our tails here.