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  • ArchMikem
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    Love the top and the skirt, but I'd rather my girl be wearing some kind of shoes or boots instead of sandals. She IS an adventuring warrior after all. She doesn't want the blood and ashes of cultists and Daedra mucking her feet.
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  • Lysette
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Love the top and the skirt, but I'd rather my girl be wearing some kind of shoes or boots instead of sandals. She IS an adventuring warrior after all. She doesn't want the blood and ashes of cultists and Daedra mucking her feet.

    I somewhat like the roman styled soldier sandals of the 700 crown outfit, but those flip flop like sandals of the cheaper one do not look very practical for adventuring, but more for running some house chores or maybe what the name of the outfit suggests - climbing. But even for that these kind of footwear are pointless, barefoot would give more grip and flexibility. So what do I suggest?- Maybe remove the flip flops and make it into what would be best for climbing?- barefoot?
    Edited by Lysette on April 18, 2016 11:08AM
  • SerpentbreeD
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    No, because the elder scroll series was never about skimpy wear, and that's all that stuff is.

    Forsworn Armour says hi. Skyrim was, however, the Elder Scrolls game with the lowest amount of revealing outfits. Methinks you're mistaking another game franchise, perhaps Nun Simulator, with the Elder Scolls. SR-item-Forsworn_Armor_Female.jpg

    I forgot about that set, but that's one out of how many armor sets and different games? I played Morrowind to Skyrim and I don't remember any of them be all "Ooo look, Armor bikini." Other than that set they all covered more area of the skin and where practical. Only mods went skin ***.

    And there's still a wide array of outfits in TESO. This only adds diversity. Now if only we were given the option to dye our costumes as well, that would be awesome. But outfits such as these are a step in the right direction.
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  • Lysette
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    In a world with magic we have to rethink how armor works and what it has to look like. I just think about Oblivion here. As soon as I have access to the mage academy, what do I do, I put away all my armor pieces, look for nice looking normal clothes and enchant them - this gives me the highest speed, that stuff does not have to be repaired ever and I stay agile and can outrun pretty much anything what might be more powerful than I am.

    At this point in the game I decided to go with cloth. In ESO I do not have a speed advantage when wearing cloth, nor would I be more agile, so here I am choosing other armor. Well, I have sets which are completely well-fitted and I love them, they give me about double the sprint time of other armor and so I can outrun most of what is too powerful for me to take on yet. Guess, I just stick with the same tactics to the most part - use something what makes me agile and lets me escape from danger. And that is what I like with this bosmer outfit. It really supports optically this highly mobile and agile play style.

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    roleplay-wise I see costumes as pure illusion magic, which I can summon and use as if it would be bodywear, because my mind is effected by the illusion, that I would wear nothing else than this costume. It's magical effects let others think and experience, that I would wear nothing but this costume, while in reality I do not wear a costume but just my armor.
    Edited by Lysette on April 18, 2016 11:45AM
  • leighdelo
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    This costume works well with curves!
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    Lysette wrote: »
    I somewhat like the roman styled soldier sandals of the 700 crown outfit, but those flip flop like sandals of the cheaper one do not look very practical for adventuring, but more for running some house chores or maybe what the name of the outfit suggests - climbing. But even for that these kind of footwear are pointless, barefoot would give more grip and flexibility. So what do I suggest?- Maybe remove the flip flops and make it into what would be best for climbing?- barefoot?

    I agree, I like the color and style of the darker one but not the flip flops. Ideally I would take the ancient looking sandals and arm band from the 1 dress and tack them onto the other.

    Or ZOS can finally let us hide other pieces besides just the head and I can go barefoot.
    Edited by waterfairy on April 18, 2016 1:36PM
  • ArchMikem
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    Vigarr wrote: »
    Or ZOS can finally let us hide other pieces besides just the head and I can go barefoot.

    Your feet are gonna be a bloody mess after the first hour of adventuring.
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  • babylon
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Love the top and the skirt, but I'd rather my girl be wearing some kind of shoes or boots instead of sandals. She IS an adventuring warrior after all. She doesn't want the blood and ashes of cultists and Daedra mucking her feet.

    Yeah I'd prefer some nice doeskin boots as well, would look nice as well as being "immersively practical".

    I'd also have made the top of that a one shoulder affair rather than a halter, to go with the lines of the skirt wrap (especially for the Doeskin and Chamois outfit), but that's not a dealbreaker for me either - they at least both look essentially great AND don't distort our bodies, so all in all a step in the right direction for costumes...plus I hope ZOS takes a look at the quick and dirty google search I did for some future dress styles I think would be nice for the Crown Store to sell as well, all would be things that make our characters look nice and really that's all we want.
  • Vrienda
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    Pretty nice, aye.

    Wish there was a third one with some metal braces and knee guards or something to give it a little more protection and milk the barbarian-warrior look.
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  • Abeille
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    Pretty nice, aye.

    Wish there was a third one with some metal braces and knee guards or something to give it a little more protection and milk the barbarian-warrior look.

    Maybe there will. If they do the same they did for Breton, Orc and Redguard outfits, there will be a third one for 1000 Crowns.

    Nothing datamined yet, though.
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  • Lysette
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    Abeille wrote: »
    Aeula wrote: »
    Pretty nice, aye.

    Wish there was a third one with some metal braces and knee guards or something to give it a little more protection and milk the barbarian-warrior look.

    Maybe there will. If they do the same they did for Breton, Orc and Redguard outfits, there will be a third one for 1000 Crowns.

    Nothing datamined yet, though.

    I agree. It would match the 3 class categorization they have with some outfits - peasants, citizen and nobles. Some of the dataminded stuff points into this direction and as well to the prize of 1000 for the noble version.
  • Blackbird71
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    ArchMikem wrote: »
    Vigarr wrote: »
    Or ZOS can finally let us hide other pieces besides just the head and I can go barefoot.

    Your feet are gonna be a bloody mess after the first hour of adventuring.

    Not necessarily. I know a guy who likes to spend as much time as he can barefoot, and the result is that he's developed some thick callouses on his feet. I've seen him run over rocky terrain without any pain or hindrance. There was one time when he did manage to slice his foot on something, and his mother insisted on taking him to the emergency room as with the depth of the cut she thought for sure he would need stitches.

    The doctor slapped a Band-Aid on it, as nearly all of the damage was to the dead skin of his callous, and the injury itself was very minor.

    It just goes to show how "soft" people let their bodies become, or how hard/sturdy they can be with the right conditioning. The human body is amazingly adaptable to whatever environment it spends time in.
    Edited by Blackbird71 on April 19, 2016 5:25PM
  • Lysette
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    Even somewhat "normal" people, but with some survival experience can survive even naked in the wilderness for some time - see the TV series "naked and afraid" - these people would not make it really long though, but a couple of weeks until they are so weak and lost all their body fat, while not building muscles. But well, it was an interesting TV reality series.
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    This what needs to be looked at... why this mess? Why not just show the underwear on the character models under it. I mean, you can already not wear anything and the underwear shows so there's no reason not to.

    It just looks wrong... like a pair of legs coming out of... I don't know how to explain it... a strange mass of something.
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    This what needs to be looked at... why this mess? Why not just show the underwear on the character models under it. I mean, you can already not wear anything and the underwear shows so there's no reason not to.

    It just looks wrong... like a pair of legs coming out of... I don't know how to explain it... a strange mass of something.
    Not sure if serious.
    Clearly they didn't plan on people trying to peek at panties...shame on you Zeni for not thinking of pervy players :p

  • MornaBaine
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    I rather wish they had done a male version with just the skirt. The top looks a little silly on males IMHO. Overall, to me, it just looks a little too much like something you see women wearing here in Miami.
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  • Lysette
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    I rather wish they had done a male version with just the skirt. The top looks a little silly on males IMHO. Overall, to me, it just looks a little too much like something you see women wearing here in Miami.

    This is not because it would be modern, but because the style is just a very comfortable way to actually wear this stuff - wrap the skirt around your hips, done - fix the top at your neck and behind your back - done - it's simple and practical, not modern.
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    MornaBaine wrote: »
    I rather wish they had done a male version with just the skirt. The top looks a little silly on males IMHO. Overall, to me, it just looks a little too much like something you see women wearing here in Miami.
    Skirt and sandals is still not a good look for a guy, the top doesn't make or break this for male characters.

  • Lysette
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    Vigarr wrote: »
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    I rather wish they had done a male version with just the skirt. The top looks a little silly on males IMHO. Overall, to me, it just looks a little too much like something you see women wearing here in Miami.
    Skirt and sandals is still not a good look for a guy, the top doesn't make or break this for male characters.

    Well, tribal cultures wear stuff similar to this - males as well - loincloth, wrap-around skirt like clothing. That you experience that as "does not look good on males" is just, because you are not used to such a culture. It is just like some women would not agree with that going topless is acceptable - but in some cultures this is absolutely normal - take for example the Zulu in south africa. Their virgin women are topless, that is what shows, that they are still virgin. This is not seen as perverted in such cultures, but it's normality. They have a right to live in the ways of their culture, just like we feel entitled to ours.
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    Lysette wrote: »
    Well, tribal cultures wear stuff similar to this - males as well - loincloth, wrap-around skirt like clothing. That you experience that as "does not look good on males" is just, because you are not used to such a culture. It is just like some women would not agree with that going topless is acceptable - but in some cultures this is absolutely normal - take for example the Zulu in south africa. Their virgin women are topless, that is what shows, that they are still virgin. This is not seen as perverted in such cultures, but it's normality. They have a right to live in the ways of their culture, just like we feel entitled to ours.
    There's also tribal people that wear a long pointy *** sheath tied by a string to their waist to cover their privates...it's normal to them but would look ridiculous in game similar to the short skirt and sandals (it looks more feminine then tribal).

    It's ok if you like that sort of thing but as a man I think it looks comical and wouldn't be able to take this any more seriously then the guys in wedding dresses and pink genie harem clothes.
    Edited by waterfairy on April 21, 2016 1:51PM
  • Lysette
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    Vigarr wrote: »
    Lysette wrote: »
    Well, tribal cultures wear stuff similar to this - males as well - loincloth, wrap-around skirt like clothing. That you experience that as "does not look good on males" is just, because you are not used to such a culture. It is just like some women would not agree with that going topless is acceptable - but in some cultures this is absolutely normal - take for example the Zulu in south africa. Their virgin women are topless, that is what shows, that they are still virgin. This is not seen as perverted in such cultures, but it's normality. They have a right to live in the ways of their culture, just like we feel entitled to ours.
    There's also tribal people that wear a long pointy *** sheath tied by a string to their waist to cover their privates...it's normal to them but would look ridiculous in game similar to the short skirt and sandals (it looks more feminine then tribal).

    It's ok if you like that sort of thing but as a man I think it looks comical and wouldn't be able to take this any more seriously then the guys in wedding dresses and pink genie harem clothes.

    It's all a matter of culture, true. Scots wear their kilts with pride and they do not see them as unmanly at all. It's their tradition. Some people might find that ridiculous, but it is a matter of tolerance and respect. Do we want to be as intolerant as people in the past were or will we be able to be more tolerant and accept that different cultures have different ways to dress and that this is perfectly ok. I am for being that tolerant and respectful - but I feel as a world citizen and I see other cultures as my fellow citizens, I am curious about their cultures and I am not going to blame them for their traditional ways.

    I think that Bosmer are a tribal culture and that these kind of outfits are perfectly fine for them. And as a tribal culture in a warm rain forest climate - as I picture their origin - it is natural and clever, to wear less clothes, in order to give the skin a chance to not be permanently wet of sweat. This is a necessity, not a matter of fashion, we should accept that.
  • CherryCake
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    My woodelves rocking it! <3

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  • Lysette
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    My woodelves rocking it! <3

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    Funny, with your females not even the flip-flops look out of place. It does not work that well on mine, by what reason ever. Maybe mine have too large feet or so. Yours look really good.
    Edited by Lysette on April 21, 2016 3:31PM
  • KhajiitiLizard
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    Vigarr wrote: »
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    This what needs to be looked at... why this mess? Why not just show the underwear on the character models under it. I mean, you can already not wear anything and the underwear shows so there's no reason not to.

    It just looks wrong... like a pair of legs coming out of... I don't know how to explain it... a strange mass of something.
    Not sure if serious.
    Clearly they didn't plan on people trying to peek at panties...shame on you Zeni for not thinking of pervy players :p

    It's not hard to notice when crouched... you seem to have a problem with this but not that people can run around in their underwear. I'm not asking for specifically for pervyness... but for anything that actually makes less attention to the area. Right now it as an ugly mess...
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    My woodelves rocking it! <3

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    Love the 2nd archer...this suits her perfectly.
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    Lysette wrote: »
    It's all a matter of culture, true. Scots wear their kilts with pride and they do not see them as unmanly at all. It's their tradition. Some people might find that ridiculous, but it is a matter of tolerance and respect. Do we want to be as intolerant as people in the past were or will we be able to be more tolerant and accept that different cultures have different ways to dress and that this is perfectly ok. I am for being that tolerant and respectful - but I feel as a world citizen and I see other cultures as my fellow citizens, I am curious about their cultures and I am not going to blame them for their traditional ways.

    I think that Bosmer are a tribal culture and that these kind of outfits are perfectly fine for them. And as a tribal culture in a warm rain forest climate - as I picture their origin - it is natural and clever, to wear less clothes, in order to give the skin a chance to not be permanently wet of sweat. This is a necessity, not a matter of fashion, we should accept that.
    Don't misunderstand me, I might make fun of fake people looking funny but I don't judge real people for doing what feels good to them. I know a guy that cross-dresses and while it weirds me out slightly (I can't deny my natural feelings) I don't judge or make him feel weird about it. I'm the type to defend the ones getting picked on by everyone else.
  • Danikat
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    I haven't decided which one to get but I really like both.

    Oddly enough the only thing making me hesitate is the lore. They'd look brilliant on my khajiit, but a khajiit in bosmer clothing? (Especially one who high-tailed it to Daggerfall as soon as the Dominion showed up?)

    I guess I could say she...borrowed them. ;)
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  • CherryCake
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    @Lysette I think I started putting the feet slide all the way down, as it normally gets wider rather than longer :(
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  • Lysette
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    Danikat wrote: »
    I haven't decided which one to get but I really like both.

    Oddly enough the only thing making me hesitate is the lore. They'd look brilliant on my khajiit, but a khajiit in bosmer clothing? (Especially one who high-tailed it to Daggerfall as soon as the Dominion showed up?)

    I guess I could say she...borrowed them. ;)

    I guess, it was a farewell gift, which Khajiit could not refuse - would have been unkind :smile:
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    Xundiin wrote: »
    Abeille wrote: »
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    Xundiin wrote: »
    No, because the elder scroll series was never about skimpy wear, and that's all that stuff is.

    Forsworn Armour says hi. Skyrim was, however, the Elder Scrolls game with the lowest amount of revealing outfits. Methinks you're mistaking another game franchise, perhaps Nun Simulator, with the Elder Scolls. SR-item-Forsworn_Armor_Female.jpg

    I forgot about that set, but that's one out of how many armor sets and different games? I played Morrowind to Skyrim and I don't remember any of them be all "Ooo look, Armor bikini." Other than that set they all covered more area of the skin and where practical. Only mods went skin ***.

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    I'm talking about the female version. Before you say that the female version is wearing pants, please look at where the hole in the pants is.

    I've never seen that outfit, ever. Are you sure that's not a mod? I can tell that picture as a body overhaul mod in use since the Oblivion character models where.... well bad.
    Definitely vanilla Oblivion. Check out http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Clothing and search the page for "Huntsman". The icons are relatively small, but you can see the shape of the clothing pieces.
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