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Enough Is Enough!

  • RedRoomGaming
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    I did white gold tower and gold light divines on 4th run lol.
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  • x_t7ink_x
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    Kena isn't worth it anyway. Call custard on hundreds of attempts too. Probably like 27 or something. PS4 players so hateful lol.

    God luck fitting in 200+ runs if WGT in 4 weeks. Get out of the basement.

    You obviously don't know PS4 players lol, my other half literally spent about 5 hours a day running wgt at one point for over a month to get all the spell power cure, he probably pulled out more runs than this guy :)

    P.S what is Mountain Dew?

    P.S P.S - The game is broken in many ways and I can understand why people are angry at paying real pennies on a sub whilst they bring out 4/5 new motifs in one dlc instead of looking at sorting the classes. There is definitely an imbalance in them. Everyones entitled to a rant.

    Yours sincerely a non PvP scrub :)
    Edited by x_t7ink_x on April 14, 2016 10:04AM
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  • ku5h
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    ZOS enough is enough! Fix yourselves and THEN fix this game. I'm tired of this. What is "this"? This is everything. Literally everything.

    I'm tired of doing dungeons constantly back-after-back, and get nothing in return. I've been running Veteran White Gold Tower for 4 weeks straight on PS4 (NA), and haven't gotten the helm yet. My guild thought it was a good idea to record the amount of times done until received. I'm on run this dungeon 277 times. No helm has dropped. Nothing. This is NOT okay. I don't care what you say. RNG is broken. Meanwhile people are having them drop fin their first run, and getting it constantly? Really? But, I can do it constantly — and get nothing in return? It feels like I'm being spit on constantly for my effort.

    I'm tired of you not fixing PVP, and mistreating the people who partaking in it. Ignoring the obvious class flaws, and refusing to fix the lag. It's discussing it. And then having the audacity to say something literally as stupid as you're making a reverse slash a Zerg buster. It's not funny, it's not cute, it's not disgusting. Stop the bandaid fixes, stop pushing content, and fix what is already out.

    I'm tired of you bullying the Templars, and driving their class into the dirt further and further. The class unbalance is the worse it has ever been, and you're making it worse with each DLC. Stop with the focus on vanity items, and look at the classes. Balance them. Not nerf things constantly, and putting up silly "fixes" like what you did to Magelight. But actually fix the classes.

    Seriously Zenimax. Fix your game. There are threads appearing right and left of people refusing to sub anymore, and of them leaving this game. You even went to extremes such as banning Sypher for game sharing. Cool. You just made more people hate you. No, not dislike. Hate. You're making people HATE you. You have people on: Console, forums, and Mac/PC comparing your company to EA Games and other hated companies. Someone called you all the demented clone of Comcast, but for gaming in the area chat one day. Get. Your. ****. Together.

    Your VERY Hostile Customer
    CTW


    I agree with everything except bolded part. I actually find balance better then ever. This days templar is still best healer, but if you spec dps you can do wanders to. I've come across some preety deadly magica Templars that can burst you down in 2-3 sec if you'r not on top of things. I was just thinking yesturday while in cyro, there are no more certain kills, everyone can be deadly if in right hands.
  • thejynxed
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    ku5h wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    ZOS enough is enough! Fix yourselves and THEN fix this game. I'm tired of this. What is "this"? This is everything. Literally everything.

    I'm tired of doing dungeons constantly back-after-back, and get nothing in return. I've been running Veteran White Gold Tower for 4 weeks straight on PS4 (NA), and haven't gotten the helm yet. My guild thought it was a good idea to record the amount of times done until received. I'm on run this dungeon 277 times. No helm has dropped. Nothing. This is NOT okay. I don't care what you say. RNG is broken. Meanwhile people are having them drop fin their first run, and getting it constantly? Really? But, I can do it constantly — and get nothing in return? It feels like I'm being spit on constantly for my effort.

    I'm tired of you not fixing PVP, and mistreating the people who partaking in it. Ignoring the obvious class flaws, and refusing to fix the lag. It's discussing it. And then having the audacity to say something literally as stupid as you're making a reverse slash a Zerg buster. It's not funny, it's not cute, it's not disgusting. Stop the bandaid fixes, stop pushing content, and fix what is already out.

    I'm tired of you bullying the Templars, and driving their class into the dirt further and further. The class unbalance is the worse it has ever been, and you're making it worse with each DLC. Stop with the focus on vanity items, and look at the classes. Balance them. Not nerf things constantly, and putting up silly "fixes" like what you did to Magelight. But actually fix the classes.

    Seriously Zenimax. Fix your game. There are threads appearing right and left of people refusing to sub anymore, and of them leaving this game. You even went to extremes such as banning Sypher for game sharing. Cool. You just made more people hate you. No, not dislike. Hate. You're making people HATE you. You have people on: Console, forums, and Mac/PC comparing your company to EA Games and other hated companies. Someone called you all the demented clone of Comcast, but for gaming in the area chat one day. Get. Your. ****. Together.

    Your VERY Hostile Customer
    CTW


    I agree with everything except bolded part. I actually find balance better then ever. This days templar is still best healer, but if you spec dps you can do wanders to. I've come across some preety deadly magica Templars that can burst you down in 2-3 sec if you'r not on top of things. I was just thinking yesturday while in cyro, there are no more certain kills, everyone can be deadly if in right hands.

    If anything, the changes that came with the TG patch improved the ability of Templars as DD/DPS in PvP, even though Toppling Charge (and the class shield) are still horribly broken/useless.

    As for no more certain kills - yes, this is now true as there is someone on PS4 running a Sorc Pet build in PvP and absolutely wrecking people with it.
  • rootimus
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    @OP - while there's certainly a lot of things you can legitimately complain about, both with the game and the people who make it, if they're getting you that upset you really do need to step away from the gaming device and do something that's actually fun for you.
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  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Enough is enough
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  • DannyLV702
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    I just want to be able to pvp during prime time and not have to wait until 1am for the lag to die down lol
  • Arkvoril
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    Jim_Pipp wrote: »
    It's not unfair, it's random.

    +1 Bam!

    I play the lottery every week..........and I see all these other people winning and not me. I'm calling and complaining that I have even seen someone win the lottery more than once. Its just not fair I haven't won yet. /sarcasm
    Edited by Arkvoril on April 14, 2016 3:17PM
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  • bottleofsyrup
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    Also, Templar being driven into the dirt? Are you kidding me? Have you even BEEN in cyrodiil lately? Darkflare + Javelin + Jesus Beam = GG. For real. Hell you can even remove the Javelin, or go charge and sweeps for days.

    Yeah, I don't get what people are saying about Templars. I just got mine to v16 recently and she feels powerful to me. I can't tell if it's just people still freaking out over the BoL change or because their cookie cutter builds are out of date now and they don't know what to do.
    Edited by bottleofsyrup on April 14, 2016 3:21PM
  • bottleofsyrup
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    x_t7ink_x wrote: »
    Kena isn't worth it anyway. Call custard on hundreds of attempts too. Probably like 27 or something. PS4 players so hateful lol.

    God luck fitting in 200+ runs if WGT in 4 weeks. Get out of the basement.

    You obviously don't know PS4 players lol, my other half literally spent about 5 hours a day running wgt at one point for over a month to get all the spell power cure, he probably pulled out more runs than this guy :)

    P.S what is Mountain Dew?

    P.S P.S - The game is broken in many ways and I can understand why people are angry at paying real pennies on a sub whilst they bring out 4/5 new motifs in one dlc instead of looking at sorting the classes. There is definitely an imbalance in them. Everyones entitled to a rant.

    Yours sincerely a non PvP scrub :)

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  • idk
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    The rage is strong in this one.
  • kuro-dono
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    running around 500th wgt run to get perfect kena mask and imperium set chest piece + helmet, but i keep getting... well you know everyones favorite stuff :D
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  • Magdalina
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    Awww. *gives OP a chocolate cookie* I feel your pain :( Ran DC like 300 times for a helm back when it was still v12 helms lol. Well not quite as bad as you. I just wanted/needed specifically heavy. Got my first helm - medium - at run #42, then a light one somewhere at ~100 and heavy somewhere well after 200 lol(mind you it was well-fitted too). Ironically, I've been refusing to run that dungeon since and have only run it like...5 times since they scaled helms to v16. I have 2 v16 EG heads lol. One in divines even. So /facepalm XD

    Dungeons BADLY need either tokens or smart RNG - something like if you don't get a head on run 1, your defaut chance(say 5%) gets increased by...maybe 2%. If you don't get it on second run, it's +2% again. And so it goes til you reach 100% and get it with 100% guarantee even if RNG REALY hates you, somewhere after 40 runs or so. It'd also be nice to have something like that(or, you know...tokens) for the sets dripping in IC dungeons, I've all but given up on SPC sash by now. As far as I'm concerned it doesn't exist. And I'm way, WAY over 300 runs by now I think.

    Instead they added another bandaid that is Cyrodiil monster vendor. My advice is eat that cookie, chill out and just buy Kena head whenever it's out at the vendor, OP :)
    They won't fix the game. They don't know how and they can't be bothered to find out since it's still profitable to them(and they even still have people defending every single decision they make) so they'll keep adding bandaids(in best case, if people complain too loudly) instead of real fixes. If you can enjoy it still despite everything ZOS does and does not do, then accept it and chill out. If you can't, uninstall. Sad as it is, in the end it just comes down to this I guess.

    Me, I can still occasionally find something fun to do with friends so I'm still here. Not paying them for sh** they don't do though, don't buy anything in Crown Store, haven't bought TG and not sure I feel like spending money on DB either.
  • cool1blues
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  • firewatch
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    I hate RNG. You work your Arse off and then have nothing to show for it. It's worse than a job...
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    hahahahahahahah all of that because of no molag kena helm.
  • Prabooo
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    Molag Kena is a thing of the past, move on
  • Mason22
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    Bananko wrote: »
    Eshelmen wrote: »
    Bananko wrote: »
    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Enough Is Enough!

    Is that the sequel series to the classic TV show Eight Is Enough? :o

    Google it. Find out for us.

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    I think that kids hair qualifies as a helmet, so at least that dropped in thread.
  • kylerjalen
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    All salient points which I agree with. I would not have put it the way OP did but its hard to disagree with what is said.
    1. The LAG is absolutely HORRENDOUS that much I can say. I give out free AP to everyone when I PvP. It used to be just in Trueflame for me but now when I go to Haderus the lagtime is creeping up slowly as well.
    2. RNG truly is capricious. I tried farming for the Lord Warden headpiece but gave up as it never dropped. That dungeon is hard enough for me to continue trying. Contrast that to the first time I did vCOA and got an infused Valkyn Skoria helmet. When I shared the fact that was what dropped for me with the PuG, the leader went off on a tear because he had been trying for over thirty instances and had never had one headpiece drop.
    3. I like my templar. :smile: 3. I think they're still workable. I wish they didn't nerf some of their abilities things but then again, that's all in the name of "balancing" I suppose. The only major complaint I would have is that Toppling Charge is still broken at least 50% of the time for me. But, like herpes, I guess its something Zenimax can't get rid of so you just have to live with the flare-ups of bugs.

    That said, I still love this game and will play until I can't play anymore. There's always something to do.
  • Ch4mpTW
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    Well... Somewhat good news... I got my Molag Kena helmet finally. It took attempt #281 for it to drop. I will say this again. It took attempt number two hundred and eighty-one to drop. . . @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom
  • FatKidHatchets
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    There are indeed many issues. But I won't try to change the subject.

    RNG is always an issue. I am always in support of a steady sure earn. An Undaunted merchant who trades in undaunted coins for undaunted gear.

    Templars are quite powerful. IMO a 50% execute is already to much but one that starts executing even if it was cast early is way too much. Atleast as far as a game that wants stronger longer combat. I would lower all executes to 20% this makes folks fight it out. I have much more fun fighting without someone spamming executes.
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    Well... Somewhat good news... I got my Molag Kena helmet finally. It took attempt #281 for it to drop. I will say this again. It took attempt number two hundred and eighty-one to drop. . . @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom

    So please close the thread and please never make another rage post again the forums already have enough of those and don't need more.

    Thank you.
  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    I had a guildie that did 250 vWGT runs and got no helmet, he eventuall quit ESO due to IRL stuff, never having the chance to test this helmet :(

    I had a guildie that did 300+ runs in vCOA and never got his helmet, he eventually quit ESO because it was too time consuming and not rewarding enough to continue.

    I have had many guildies that keep quitting ESO for another pvp game, and return. Problem is not that they are tired of ESO, but that they are pvp players and are tired of the lag there... so they try out new games, hold long breaks from ESO, and return when the other game goes down.

    If a new game comes with less laggy pvp and equal or higher demand of personal skills for success - then most of my pvp friends will quit ESO permanently for that game. :/
    Edited by failkiwib16_ESO on April 15, 2016 12:44AM
  • SanTii.92
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    Hey, mate are you sure you are running White Gold Tower on Veteran version?? Cause there is no way whatsoever that you have run it 277 times with no helms.

    Classes are actually more balanced than ever. (if we are talking about classes and not stamina vs magicka)

    Magelight turn up to be a good change after all.

    Sypher is not banned anymore.

    /thread
    Edited by SanTii.92 on April 15, 2016 12:53AM
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  • wildbear247
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    Magdalina wrote: »
    Awww. *gives OP a chocolate cookie* I feel your pain :( Ran DC like 300 times for a helm back when it was still v12 helms lol. Well not quite as bad as you. I just wanted/needed specifically heavy. Got my first helm - medium - at run #42, then a light one somewhere at ~100 and heavy somewhere well after 200 lol(mind you it was well-fitted too). Ironically, I've been refusing to run that dungeon since and have only run it like...5 times since they scaled helms to v16. I have 2 v16 EG heads lol. One in divines even. So /facepalm XD

    Dungeons BADLY need either tokens or smart RNG - something like if you don't get a head on run 1, your defaut chance(say 5%) gets increased by...maybe 2%. If you don't get it on second run, it's +2% again. And so it goes til you reach 100% and get it with 100% guarantee even if RNG REALY hates you, somewhere after 40 runs or so. It'd also be nice to have something like that(or, you know...tokens) for the sets dripping in IC dungeons, I've all but given up on SPC sash by now. As far as I'm concerned it doesn't exist. And I'm way, WAY over 300 runs by now I think.

    Instead they added another bandaid that is Cyrodiil monster vendor. My advice is eat that cookie, chill out and just buy Kena head whenever it's out at the vendor, OP :)
    They won't fix the game. They don't know how and they can't be bothered to find out since it's still profitable to them(and they even still have people defending every single decision they make) so they'll keep adding bandaids(in best case, if people complain too loudly) instead of real fixes. If you can enjoy it still despite everything ZOS does and does not do, then accept it and chill out. If you can't, uninstall. Sad as it is, in the end it just comes down to this I guess.

    Me, I can still occasionally find something fun to do with friends so I'm still here. Not paying them for sh** they don't do though, don't buy anything in Crown Store, haven't bought TG and not sure I feel like spending money on DB either.

    That part bolded is an excellent solution to address the mind numbing grinding of dungeons or other content for specific gear. I prefer some type of token option that you can take to the new Cyrodiil vendor and buy the gear you want. In addition to this they should have some rare material that you can use to change the trait of an item (e.g. perhaps a material that is created by combining 2 tempering alloys, 2 dreugh wax, and 2 rosin). Implementing changes like these would really help to reduce the grind and allow folks to focus more on the content that they find fun.

    ** edited to focus on the bolded statement **
    Edited by wildbear247 on April 15, 2016 1:01AM
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  • disintegr8
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    What I would give to complete vWGT even once...... let alone 200+ times. My main is a v16 DK stam tank with over 300 CP but I still have to rely on group finder to run dungeons. Hence I have had maybe 20 attempts at vWGT and never got past The Adjudicator as the zombies always overrun us. With never running a healer or DPS in here I cannot necessarily blame anyone - maybe they all blame me. I'll just sook and say that ZOS has it in for Tanks as well as DK's and stamina builds - I lose on all three counts :'(

    I still find a lot of good things about this game though and getting strung out over one dungeon or a specific drop item is not worth it. If you can successfully run vWGT hundreds of times I suggest you do not really NEED the helm anyway.
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  • JadeNaria
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    Ch4mpTW wrote: »
    You even went to extremes such as banning Sypher for game sharing. Cool. You just made more people hate you. No, not dislike. Hate. You're making people HATE you. You have people on: Console, forums, and Mac/PC comparing your company to EA Games and other hated companies. Someone called you all the demented clone of Comcast, but for gaming in the area chat one day. Get. Your. ****. Together.

    Your VERY Hostile Customer
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    EDIT NEVERMIND, he didnt get banned

    Edited by JadeNaria on April 15, 2016 3:09AM
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    sAnn92 wrote: »
    Hey, mate are you sure you are running White Gold Tower on Veteran version?? Cause there is no way whatsoever that you have run it 277 times with no helms.

    Classes are actually more balanced than ever. (if we are talking about classes and not stamina vs magicka)

    Magelight turn up to be a good change after all.

    Sypher is not banned anymore.

    /thread

    Yes. I'm more than positive it was ran on veteran mode. I never do dungeons on normal, unless: 1. It is for the skill point. 2. It is for the daily undaunted pledge. 3. I am helping someone learn the mechanics of the dungeon.

    Also, I am aware Sypher is no longer banned (which I have mixed feelings about).

    Regardless, to those who found this to be a "rage thread", and found my posts as being whiny — you should check yourselves. If you find nothing wrong with someone having to do something 250+ items to get something? Your logic should be brought into question. Not to mention those who still think that this game isn't riddled with lag and numerous other issues.
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