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So is PvP just 100% UNPLAYABLE?
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AOECAPS✭✭✭✭On PS4 there is only one server that really has competition and that's scourge haderus was good until thieves guild and then AD pvdoored and gate camped causing DC and EP to leave and now have the same thing going on in childrend.scourge is atrocious I saw 100EP and about 80 DC at chapman mine earlier today just lagging hard.i used to pvp all the time but it's unbearable anymore and don't even mess with it unless it's to run sewers which most people won't do that1 -
Airyus✭✭✭Non champ point servers are available. I have played on them with 0 lag. But there is minimal population as well.
Makes you wonder though...what if...0 -
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✭Scheneighnay wrote: »I went out by myself solo roaming last night. Even on the edge of the map in enemy territory, when the "sieges" we're taking place on the other side of the map, my ping was 300-500.
TP to Mournhold and ping goes back to 70.
Ping is going to be more related to the amount of people total in Cyrodiil- being such a massive zone, the ping there is always going to be the worst.
It's your framerate that's going to take a hit in the middle of a zerg.
There are days where all 3 factions are Pop Capped and I can find places where my ping is around 100. That I can live with. The "swap bars, wait 3 seconds, have the game catch-up suddenly and you're dead" BS I can't.
The FPS I understand. When I'm away from all the BS I get 100 FPS. If I siege (or assist those who are) I have had it drop down to 15 FPS. *** that...
Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...1 -
Pirhana7_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Just wait for Camelot Unchained, the engine is being created from the ground up just to be able to handle 500+ people in keep seiges with effects and no lag.4
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✭✭✭✭✭On PS4 there is only one server that really has competition and that's scourge haderus was good until thieves guild and then AD pvdoored and gate camped causing DC and EP to leave and now have the same thing going on in childrend.scourge is atrocious I saw 100EP and about 80 DC at chapman mine earlier today just lagging hard.i used to pvp all the time but it's unbearable anymore and don't even mess with it unless it's to run sewers which most people won't do that
Good to know I'm not the only player noticing the mess that is stirring on PS4 NA.
We don't have a ton of servers anymore. If one faction (group of guilds) decides to nightcap every 24hrs and kick the other alliances off the server due to unfun PvP, then players from both other factions move to the next campaign.
Scourge is the main campaign now for PvP and the lag is terrible. Even worse, the guilds/players ruining servers like AD does with Haderus are convinced they are super good as reasoning for everyone else switching campaigns.Edited by Vaoh on April 15, 2016 4:09AM0 -
Junkogen✭✭✭✭✭In which war are there not large armies fighting against each other? If you want 1v1 play mortal kombat. This is supposed to be a war with seige and large factions fighting each other for the throne of Tamriel. It would be really dumb if there weren't large armies fighting each other.
I wish they would implement arena duels or something so that people will finally stfu about the "zergs".4 -
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this Scourge is no where near as laggy as Haduras used to be but yea their is lag problem in that campaign.Even more so with the arrival of Hulks guild but its better then the alternative.Lightninvash wrote: »gamerguy757 wrote: »As the title states....is PvP just unplayable with the amount of lag going on? I'm in Scourge, so maybe that's a problem? NA/X1 servers
It isn't 100% unplayable I play on many different campaigns on xbox NA server scourge is one and I never have an issue unless there is zerg on zerg then I experience some lag but that's about it once I back away and pick off stragglers it is much better0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭In which war are there not large armies fighting against each other? If you want 1v1 play mortal kombat. This is supposed to be a war with seige and large factions fighting each other for the throne of Tamriel. It would be really dumb if there weren't large armies fighting each other.
I wish they would implement arena duels or something so that people will finally stfu about the "zergs".
Oh I don't know, maybe the war where the Gods (ZOS) have already cut down the population caps per campaign to a shadow of their former glory...
The war where the Gods (ZOS) have stated they wish to discourage large army "zergs" from forming....
The war where the bulk of any given alliance's soldiers have permanently abandoned the fight gone missing in action.
The war where our fights once ruled by steel and magic are being met with One-Shot TnT bombs which mysteriously chain together and allow our large armies to get obliterated in two seconds....
(Magicka NB + Viscious Death + Clever Alchemist + Soul Tether + Proxy)
The war where the God's permission was called upon by soldiers to pit the finest warriors in Tamriel against each other. Our wait has no foreseeable end. (arena/battlegrounds)
The war where a strange curse lingers amongst all the land in Cyrodiil when our legions fight. It paralyzes us, disorients our vision, slows our movement, and sometimes causes us to fall unconscious, waking up minutes later.....
(latency, lag, slow weapon swap, skill not working, crashing, all caused by zergs)
I can go on and on....
The ESO which allowed large armies to fight at launch is not ESOTU. They are very different in this regard. PvP no longer functions when 1/10 of the original intended playercount fights in Cyrodiil.Edited by Vaoh on April 15, 2016 4:59AM3 -
Agalloch✭✭✭✭✭They advertised the game as large scale battles PVP.
Remember old days with hundreds ..maybe thousands of people in one screen?
I know they are trying to fix the PVP ..I miss old days....
For me PVP is fine in Cyrodil ..with max 350 ms ping in great fights.
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Steel_Brightblade✭✭✭✭I play azura in xb1 EU and no lag at all, lack of champion points just seems to equal no random instant deaths, its great, though that said it can take a while to find a fight as a lot don't seem to like the idea of fighting in a level playing field.0
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Nine9six, your experience has been virtually identical to mine.There are days where all 3 factions are Pop Capped and I can find places where my ping is around 100. That I can live with. The "swap bars, wait 3 seconds, have the game catch-up suddenly and you're dead" BS I can't.
The FPS I understand. When I'm away from all the BS I get 100 FPS. If I siege (or assist those who are) I have had it drop down to 15 FPS. *** that...
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✭I really dont wanna say this but yes ZOS IS RIGHT... ZERGS are killing cyrodill it makes most of the LAGS But it is in PCP CONTENT so ZOS need the fix this issuePlays:
Magicka SORC - PvE/PvP
Stamina NB - PvE/PvP
Magicka NB - PvE/PvP
Magicka Templar - PvE
Stamina Templar - PvP
Magicka DK - PvE
Stamina DK - PvE0 -
binho✭✭✭I've been playing on ps4 Europe prime time and no lag at all...
Maybe because people play in different campaigns so in all fairness... can't really complain too much
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Necrelios✭✭✭✭✭The map is designed to funnel players from keep to keep. It's designed for zergs. Unfortunately, the servers were not. In order to stop zergs they would need to rearrange some keeps, open up some more passes through terrain and allow players to spread out by giving them a larger pool of objectives to work for.Terms & Conditions ["We revoke permission to fictional legal constructs or private/public persons for selling of any private data, censorship, surveillance, personage or conversion as a trespass of law. We prohibit the practice of "procedural law" or corporate statues in place of divine law."]0 -
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✭Now dont say that!!! You arent lagging, you have special teleportation powers.I like sweetrolls and I cannot lie0 -
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✭✭✭✭gamerguy757 wrote: »As the title states....is PvP just unplayable with the amount of lag going on? I'm in Scourge, so maybe that's a problem? NA/X1 servers
This is my home campaign, and I play there in peak hours 3 to 5 times a week. You're exaggerating.
Yes, things slow down a bit when more than 50 people are on screen and about 1% of the time (1, not 100) there are some issues but it's hardly unplayable. And even those times there are things you can still do. Staves, for example, still work great even in the laggiest of times.
I see more lag in one game of Madden than 4 hours of Cyrodiil.
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Miwerton✭✭✭Well as Fengrush said, zos wont bother to fix pvp. Theyll just keep grinding out poorly thought pve content, where its all just a dps *** measuring contest, as for pvp on my part i can say this, higby this game, and its creator zos (PS reff).0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »Zerging isn't the issue.
That's what ZOS wants you to believe. Just like they want you to believe the Champion Point system was also the cause of lag.
No, they will never fix it. If you just PvP just move on to another game.
Zerging is the issue - math is telling me this, just think about how the interaction has to be resolved and then think about what math is behind it. If you cannot do that, then just stop saying it would not be the issue.0 -
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✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »Zerging isn't the issue.
That's what ZOS wants you to believe. Just like they want you to believe the Champion Point system was also the cause of lag.
No, they will never fix it. If you just PvP just move on to another game.
Zerging is the issue - math is telling me this, just think about how the interaction has to be resolved and then think about what math is behind it. If you cannot do that, then just stop saying it would not be the issue.
ZOS have the tools to decide if 10 events happen or 1000.
Thats what the code is for.
Thats what limiters are for.
100s of players in a war is not the issue.
ZOS way of dealing with it is.
Anything that can be exploited will be exploited2
