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So is PvP just 100% UNPLAYABLE?

gamerguy757
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As the title states....is PvP just unplayable with the amount of lag going on? I'm in Scourge, so maybe that's a problem? NA/X1 servers
  • Kammakazi
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    No.

    Stop zerging.

    Spread out on campaigns.

    Destroy buff campaigns!

    Stop night capturing emperorship on low population campaigns!
  • oSemaj
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    I play in Scourge on Xbox NA. I don't really see an issue. I've gotten used to the lag
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  • Scheneighnay
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    No.

    Stop zerging.

    Spread out on campaigns.

    Destroy buff campaigns!

    Stop night capturing emperorship on low population campaigns!

    If players were smart enough to stop zerging, they would have stopped a long time ago.

    But no, instead of having lots of smaller fights all around cyrodiil, let's have one giant cluster-***
    Edited by Scheneighnay on April 14, 2016 2:42AM
  • FLuFFyxMuFFiN
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    No and the ones who say otherwise are over exaggerating
  • PainfulFAFA
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    The game is 100% unplayable between 3pm - 11pm PST [primetime] on populated campaigns.



    Edited by PainfulFAFA on April 14, 2016 2:46AM
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  • Function
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    I'm not a big PvPer because im not a fan of AvA but when I do PvP I rarely ever lag, the only exception being on weekends when the campaigns are completely packed and people are zerging hard.
  • demonaffinity
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    What's the point of pvping with almost 1000 ping rate? Zenimax needs to reverse what they did, back when enormous zergs did not affect ping almost at all, to giving 800 ping when 20 people fought in the same place.
  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    No.

    Stop zerging.

    Spread out on campaigns.

    Destroy buff campaigns!

    Stop night capturing emperorship on low population campaigns!

    Yea if stopping a zerg was that easy they wouldn't be around today.

    Spread out ? Their is only 3 campaigns and AD owns 2 of them.

    Again AD owns 2 and no one likes fighting a ... ok you can;t even call it a buff campaign.

    Lastly night capping is no a bug exploit or what ever just cause some players can't play when you do doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to play.
  • flguy147ub17_ESO
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    Stop Zerging?? ESO promoted that for the game. Also if you run solo or small groups, you will get killed by Zergs. Either die or Zerg lol.
  • PainfulFAFA
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    What's the point of pvping with almost 1000 ping rate? Zenimax needs to reverse what they did, back when enormous zergs did not affect ping almost at all, to giving 800 ping when 20 people fought in the same place.

    I believe that would be the AoE caps, 50% damage nerf, 50% shields nerf, and anti bot checks for every single individual player or it could be the deer, fireflies, elephants, or trees. Thanks goodness they took out the deer!
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  • magictucktuck
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    Lol why are u asking? I Pvp in haderus and only laggy sometimes=playable
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  • Korah_Eaglecry
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    No.

    Stop zerging.

    Spread out on campaigns.

    Destroy buff campaigns!

    Stop night capturing emperorship on low population campaigns!

    While I agree with most of what youve said. And to an extent the Stop Zerging. I feel like telling people to stop doing exactly what this game sold itself on for PvP is just not good advice. They shouldnt have to stop zerging. Large Scale PvP is what Cyrodiil was built around.


    As for the OP. Stop spreading negativity and flamebait. Honestly this is why other ESO communities like reddit and the foundry look at this place with disdain. There is no place for honest rational discussion here because all we get is these overblown whiney posts that claim the game is SO BROKEN when in fact it is not.
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  • Ch4mpTW
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    Truth be told, if I were you? I'd only PVP for: AP to buy stuff from the vendors, go to Imperial City to get items via Tel Var Stones, and do the PVE-oriented things there (e.g. quests and sky shards).
  • Carterboy254
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    Just constant crashes on pvp or pve area
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  • WalkingLegacy
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    Zerging isn't the issue.

    That's what ZOS wants you to believe. Just like they want you to believe the Champion Point system was also the cause of lag.

    No, they will never fix it. If you just PvP just move on to another game.
  • JDar
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    You people know what 100% means right?
  • gamerguy757
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    I don't Zerg ever. And seriously? No one else is badly lagging? If I press a skill, my character won't respond for 3 seconds.
  • Vaoh
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    Lol why are u asking? I Pvp in haderus and only laggy sometimes=playable

    I'm guessing you're probably on PS4? You are playing on a server where only a third of the population is cap is even filled. Those players are often pretty spread out as well. This is what happens when one alliance takes a single server and pushes the other two to spread out on other servers. Causes higher populations elsewhere.

    It only lags when a group of 4-12 EP or DC try to take a few keeps, and the hordes of 40+ AD need to go and take them back.

    On servers where it is more balanced, the lag tends to be severe all day long.
    Edited by Vaoh on April 14, 2016 5:13AM
  • Scheneighnay
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    Stop Zerging?? ESO promoted that for the game. Also if you run solo or small groups, you will get killed by Zergs. Either die or Zerg lol.

    That's not really the case- there can be countless small groups around the map, but only one or 2 zergs- if there are enough small groups, your chances of encountering a zerg are slim, and your faction will be getting lots of victories around the map for each defeat at the hands of a zerg.
  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    JDar wrote: »
    You people know what 100% means right?

    I think most people understand. But look at it this way.

    It would be like if during quest when you went to turn in a quest and 90% of the time the game either lagged out so bad you had no idea what was going on or the game crashed. To a whole lot of people that would equal 100% broken.

    To all the people who dont do it, they would post things like, well it works most the time, i dont have a problem with it, seems ok to me, i got use to the dissconnect, just dont turn your quest in problem solved.

    The game was billed as being able to support huge battles. It was one of their selling points. Even if it isnt exactly 100% broken it is hard to see it as anything other then a massive failure.
  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    I doubt it's going to be fixed anytime soon. Have you noticed that there is no PvP related DLCs forseeable over the next year? With the constant complaining and calling for nerf this and nerf that for PvPers, it wouldn't surprise me if the next Cryodiil related content is a PvE version of Cryodiil and IC. Then since Zeni can't fix PvP to the players liking, they can just forget about it and move on with PvE content.
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  • dennissomb16_ESO
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    The ping issue seems to be more then simply large scale fights. I can go to Trueflame NA PC and even being in an area completely alone ping starts at 300 and goes up. Go to Haderus even with all populations locked and the ping is not as bad (not good during the biggest fights by any means). Prime time big fight Haderus ping for me floats between 130-500. Trueflame you can simply double those numbers.

    I am not sure of their hardware set up or even if different campaigns have different cap numbers, but all things being equal population wise Trueflame significantly worse then haderus which really makes no sense
  • RDMyers65b14_ESO
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    It is only maybe at the most, 5% unplayable, depending on which campaign. Trueflame is 50%unplayable due to the lag caused by the campaign population. The non CP campaigns are not lagged nor do they have issues.
  • Malmai
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    No.

    Stop zerging.

    Spread out on campaigns.

    Destroy buff campaigns!

    Stop night capturing emperorship on low population campaigns!

    Fixing Lag
  • nine9six
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    I went out by myself solo roaming last night. Even on the edge of the map in enemy territory, when the "sieges" we're taking place on the other side of the map, my ping was 300-500.

    TP to Mournhold and ping goes back to 70.
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  • Scheneighnay
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    nine9six wrote: »
    I went out by myself solo roaming last night. Even on the edge of the map in enemy territory, when the "sieges" we're taking place on the other side of the map, my ping was 300-500.

    TP to Mournhold and ping goes back to 70.

    Ping is going to be more related to the amount of people total in Cyrodiil- being such a massive zone, the ping there is always going to be the worst.

    It's your framerate that's going to take a hit in the middle of a zerg.
  • Justice31st
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    Due to the Cyrodil Lag, this game is barely worth playing even without a subscription. Zenimax's PvP coders need to all be fired. One year later and the biggest problem PvP has faced is stlll here. What a joke.
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  • xeNNNNN
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    Kammakazi wrote: »
    No.

    Stop zerging.

    Spread out on campaigns.

    Destroy buff campaigns!

    Stop night capturing emperorship on low population campaigns!

    .......... If only.
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  • Warraxx
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    it's only 97.2% unplayable
  • Lightninvash
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    As the title states....is PvP just unplayable with the amount of lag going on? I'm in Scourge, so maybe that's a problem? NA/X1 servers

    It isn't 100% unplayable I play on many different campaigns on xbox NA server scourge is one and I never have an issue unless there is zerg on zerg then I experience some lag but that's about it once I back away and pick off stragglers it is much better
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