well iam still awaiting a response from support for tickets I placed last month , so I guess that shows how good communication is .
Repeated requests on update on those support tickets have been ignored and I guess that they are either 1) Understaffed or 2) Inundated with far to many to possibly reply to all with other then auto server email response or 3) All of the above .

I state these as the options cause I would hate to think its because of lazy , incompetent people who just no longer care and are just biding their time for most player base to leave so the can just dismantle game and company for tax writeoff .

This does not include community managers who I know work incredibly hard keeping us to date and , to me it seems , having to make excuses for those who cant do their job right .

I guess this is just the thanks we get for sticking with this game since Beta .

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And it is, even if Zenimax doesn't show it. For example I posted in Ask Us Anything hinting that I would like Almalexia's Lantern to last the entire cooldown period instead of wear off halfway through it. After Thieves Guild was released sure enough it lasts the entire cooldown, give or take a second, and yet they never truly replied to my request or hinted they'd look into it.[/quote]

Lol u are sour that u hinted at something and didn't get your way? This game needs less people like you

YES! They do. It's why we get nerfs and buffs that don't make sense, or did you think they came up with those on their own?

Short answer? Yes. Their admission earlier this year to add text chat is a massive reaction to player feedback.

The angry PVP streamer video won't help anything. They are already aware of performance issues in Cyrodiil and it would be silly to think that they are just "ignoring" it

ZOS does listen. They just don't respond every time.
Devs also don't seem to be allowed to post directly to the forum without going through the community team, which is probably why we don't see them too often, but when they do appear, they usually post great stuff.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Faceplanty wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Why do people think companies somehow need a tax write off? I hear that all the time. "Oh you can just write this off!". I already have an accountant who makes sure I owe as little tax as possible. I dont need anymore "write offs". Also what about all the people employed there? They probably wish to remain employed. From what I see a lot of young people with families to support.

So ya dont think they are just biding their time until they can be unemployed and probably homeless.

Company direction come from the top , so whether or not these workers want to remain employed you mustn't be so naïve to think that it always works for them .
As for tax writeoff if a company/investment is not working out or is costing more then it is worth then sometimes companies cut there losses .
To be clear iam not saying that's what is happening here but I do feel that way about it at times and had the same feeling mentioned to me from other pvp'ers.

I think the naive person is the one who thinks the company wishes its online division to fail so it can have a "write off".

Please re-read what I have written .

Asherons_Call wrote: »

Faceplanty wrote: »

Asherons_Call wrote: »

Short answer? Yes. Their admission earlier this year to add text chat is a massive reaction to player feedback.

The angry PVP streamer video won't help anything. They are already aware of performance issues in Cyrodiil and it would be silly to think that they are just "ignoring" it

Yes there is no way they can ignore it when it being thrown at them from all directions in posts throughout the forums .
The issue here is timely communication to the parties who are concerned about what is being done to address the problems experienced.

"Timely communication"? If that is the issue then get used to it. Not once did they communicate with us when we had the year-long battle for text chat. Not once.

However it worked out in the end. They are listening. Not speaking unfortunately but they are listening.

I suppose your right. A one sided conversation is better then none if it accomplishs its goal .

vyrusb23 wrote: »

Shader_Shibes wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

You'll enjoy the game a lot more, when you ignore people like fengrush.

Can you explain why he should ignore fengrush?

Because, generally speaking, he seems like a miserable person.

I never got that impression from him . He always seemed so excitable but when his passion/hobby (this game) seemed to be getting worse and worse without any responses to why , he just feels like his game has been destroyed.

Just my impression

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

FENG RUSH lol

Allow me to point out 3 things:

1. Just because Zenimax does not take the time to respond to everything posted on the forums doesn't mean they do not care. Proof is in how mods say when they moderate a thread with a heated discussion yet do not close it "the feedback is important" or something along those lines.
2. The ESO streamers are all elitists for the most part that hate casuals and have plenty to gripe about. From what I hear they have moved on for the most part. They also like to call me out on twitch because I'm a "casual" lol
3. There is no space in FENGRUSH's name, at least on these forums

Wow that is an ignorant thing to say: "Streamers are all elitists that hate everyone." What kind of mentality is that?

I don't want to debate your opinion on Fengrush, honestly it isn't really relevant. The way you over-generalize and group people together here makes you just as bad as you claim streamers are, and it almost seems hypocritical.

Let me share a little secret obvious fact: streamers, elitists, casuals, whatever label you think is most appropriate so that you can easily classify people based on your opinions, they're all just people playing the same game. I know some streamers who literally couldn't tell a staff from a tree branch, and others that are very good players. It's common knowledge at this point that ZOS listens to as much feedback as they can get their hands on, and they check multiple forums and streams during their market research. I'm not so privy to every one of Fengrush's rants, but even I know that he plays this game for the community and helps people all the time. I don't know that much about Fengrush, but even I know that he's not the discriminatory, narrow-minded turd that you portrayed him to be.

Here's some advice: the next time you want to prove a point, try using something quantifiable instead of taking random stabs in the dark. I know I'm not alone in this: players who trash other players without any real reason to are not only poor sports, but deserve little to no respect. This is a place to discuss the game, and here we are all just players. The more hate you throw onto these forums, the less constructive it becomes. And guess what comes out of nonconstructive forums? Nothing. Next time you want to make a post, remember that the people in charge here are not the players.

Autolycus wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

FENG RUSH lol

Allow me to point out 3 things:

1. Just because Zenimax does not take the time to respond to everything posted on the forums doesn't mean they do not care. Proof is in how mods say when they moderate a thread with a heated discussion yet do not close it "the feedback is important" or something along those lines.
2. The ESO streamers are all elitists for the most part that hate casuals and have plenty to gripe about. From what I hear they have moved on for the most part. They also like to call me out on twitch because I'm a "casual" lol
3. There is no space in FENGRUSH's name, at least on these forums

Wow you are so ignorant. "Streamers are all elitists that hate everyone." What kind of crap mentality is that?

I don't care what your opinion on Fengrush is, frankly it doesn't even matter. The way you over-generalize and group people together here makes you just as bad as you claim streamers are, which makes you a hypocrite. I'm curious, where is the salt coming from? Did you lose all of your twitch subs to someone else? It doesn't matter.

Let me tell you a little secret obvious fact: streamers, elitists, casuals, whatever label you think is most appropriate so that you can easily classify people based on your opinions, they're all just people playing the same game. I know some streamers who literally couldn't tell a staff from a tree branch, and others that are very good players. It's common knowledge at this point that ZOS listens to as much feedback as they can get their hands on, and they check multiple forums and streams during their market research. I'm not so privy to every one of Fengrush's rants, but even I know that he plays this game for the community and helps people all the time. I don't know that much about Fengrush, but even I know that he's not the discriminatory, narrow-minded turd that you portrayed him to be.

Here's some advice: the next time you want to prove a point, try using something quantifiable instead of taking random stabs in the dark. I know I'm not alone in this: players who trash other players without any real reason to are not only poor sports, but deserve little to no respect. This is a place to discuss the game, and here we are all just players. The more hate you throw onto these forums, the less constructive it becomes. And guess what comes out of nonconstructive forums? Nothing. Next time you want to make a post, remember that the people in charge here are not the players.

Please keep disagreements civil. I don't want them to have to clean/close the thread. Id like to keep the discussion going.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

They made IC based on twitch streamers. We all see how that worked out.

I didn't know that but I think we can all agree that that 'experiment' did not work out .

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

FENG RUSH lol

Allow me to point out 3 things:

1. Just because Zenimax does not take the time to respond to everything posted on the forums doesn't mean they do not care. Proof is in how mods say when they moderate a thread with a heated discussion yet do not close it "the feedback is important" or something along those lines.
2. The ESO streamers are all elitists for the most part that hate casuals and have plenty to gripe about. From what I hear they have moved on for the most part. They also like to call me out on twitch because I'm a "casual" lol
3. There is no space in FENGRUSH's name, at least on these forums

See here is the crux of your statement ." Casual "just what does that mean? Does it mean that all the content should be soloable? if thats the case then just play Skyrim for gods sake. Does it mean ease of access to content? Well if thats the case MMO 's have long since doen this with group finders , removal of the more difficult roles like CC and buffing and debuffing and four man group play. Does it mean all the group content should be accomplishable in rags no CP's and drool coming out of your mouth? if thats the case 90 % of the veteran content is accomplishable.

I am a "casual" on occasion ill spend more then two hours playing ESO when i do play which is a couple times a week (less now with my displeasure of the thieves guild update) But to me the casual part means how easy can i access content . I want the challenge and i want reward for time spent. ICP is a great dungeon i would like to see more veteran content like that, but the rewards need to be increased. See to me casual does not mean being able to solo the whole game . to me casual means i have easy access to the group content , you know the second M in MMO . the multiplayer part? ESO has that the problem with ESO is only 15% of the game is actually multiplayer. the rest is Solo play unless you go to Cyrodil which i consider a completely different game its all about AP there . Now to me the guys video sounds nothing like an elitist it sounds like a guy who had an expectation ZOS would not sell out their game.

I am sorry but this thieves guild update was Garbage and you know it. it was a new with some soloable content once again. nothing expanded game play , no new abilities for some of the most enjoyable guilds in the Elderscrolls genre. A complete and utter failure to use it as an opportunity to fix stamina. ZOS has picked a rode of regurgitate content abondon the the stuff they talked about in the road ahead 18 months ago. The player base is pissed because ZOS's game has become a bag of wind .They have increased VR 2 times after announcing their three phase plan to remove them . FYI the third phase was implemented 13 months ago. I dont watch streamers i got far better things to do with my time. But the community that has backed this game with subscriptions or buying DLC's has a right to be mad and frustrated that ZOS has not provided a product that resembels the post launch plans they had been selling people for 13 months post launch. Imperial city was a decent update for the PVP'rs at least it provided good MMO game play. But the PVE has all been skyrim DLC's at best . Small areas with a soloable quest line and some new clothes.

Yes and No, somethings that will not change the bottom line of the company, sad to say most of these companies are ran by the bean counters who most likely have never played a computer game beyond solitaire on their computers.

Some of the streamers might have a few points but they are really no different than you and I, plus some of them have got to salty to even watch and are doing more harm than good, I have not watched them for a while now and my enjoyment level went up. I am here everyday I know the problems of the game don't need some salty whiner on a twitch channel telling me what I already know.

Here is the problem I see with player 'feedback'. First off, most players approach things from a selfish, "I want" perspective and they never even take a second to consider that perhaps they are simply an extreme 'minority' of the player base in their opinion and content preference. Instead, they tell themselves that almost everyone plays exactly like them, therefore ZOS should do what they tell them and cater the game to them.

They fail to consider that ZOS has game tracking data, they know things that egocentric players don't want to admit... who is playing what and what the majority of players are playing and how much those players are contributing financially to the game. Further, ZOS also has a design for the game that they are not obligated to share with players and therefore will continue with their design as long as they see the majority of players utilizing it as well as maintaining a healthy player base. Simply because 'players in my guild are leaving' doesn't mean the player population and retention aren't growing or remaining stable... it just means that in your tiny sphere of the game, players are leaving... but your tiny sphere is not an indicator of how the massive WORLD around them is performing.