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I don't mind running into duels but.....
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UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »The maxim buyer beware should be changed to dualler beware.
If you go into cyrodil others can and will kill you regardless of being on own, in a dual, in a menu screen...so on and so forth.
Right now people pick out of the way spots not often frequented by the average PvPer to duel because there is no proper dueling system or PvP Arena. Once there is this will no longer be an issue period.
For the record the issue being discussed is the practice of common courtesy, and said discussion was not started by OP.
I broadly agree with the op...however i disagree with labelling players toxic if they dont adhere to your artificial principles in an open pvp environment. If you want to kill then so be it.
You're not even trying to listen or understand are you? We get it you don't care how people act in Cyrodiil but for someone that is that way you sure seem to be wanting to debate those that do care one way or another pretty damn hard and even want to debate those that remain neutral until stated otherwise.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on April 12, 2016 9:07AMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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swirve✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »The maxim buyer beware should be changed to dualler beware.
If you go into cyrodil others can and will kill you regardless of being on own, in a dual, in a menu screen...so on and so forth.
Right now people pick out of the way spots not often frequented by the average PvPer to duel because there is no proper dueling system or PvP Arena. Once there is this will no longer be an issue period.
For the record the issue being discussed is the practice of common courtesy, and said discussion was not started by OP.
I broadly agree with the op...however i disagree with labelling players toxic if they dont adhere to your artificial principles in an open pvp environment. If you want to kill then so be it.
You're not even trying to listen or understand are you? We get it you don't care how people act in Cyrodiil but for someone that is that way you sure seem to be wanting to debate those that do care one way or another pretty damn hard and even want to debate those that remain neutral until stated otherwise.
Im listening and all im hearing is your opinion is right.
I will debate with whom i like or is that another principle you have?
I do care actually, i care about not forcing others to play how you want and label them toxic otherwise.2 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »The maxim buyer beware should be changed to dualler beware.
If you go into cyrodil others can and will kill you regardless of being on own, in a dual, in a menu screen...so on and so forth.
Right now people pick out of the way spots not often frequented by the average PvPer to duel because there is no proper dueling system or PvP Arena. Once there is this will no longer be an issue period.
For the record the issue being discussed is the practice of common courtesy, and said discussion was not started by OP.
I broadly agree with the op...however i disagree with labelling players toxic if they dont adhere to your artificial principles in an open pvp environment. If you want to kill then so be it.
You're not even trying to listen or understand are you? We get it you don't care how people act in Cyrodiil but for someone that is that way you sure seem to be wanting to debate those that do care one way or another pretty damn hard and even want to debate those that remain neutral until stated otherwise.
Im listening and all im hearing is your opinion is right.
I will debate with whom i like or is that another principle you have?
I do care actually, i care about not forcing others to play how you want and label them toxic otherwise.
Then you're not listening or you don't understand what we are saying and/or just want to respond to everything like that whether it is actually applicable or not.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on April 12, 2016 9:31AMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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RDMyers65b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭There was dueling just outside of Ash mile gate. That is not a good place to duel. I mean, the guild came riding through the gates and through the duel. Fortunately, we realized that it was a duel, but please, find a better spot.0 -
swirve✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »The maxim buyer beware should be changed to dualler beware.
If you go into cyrodil others can and will kill you regardless of being on own, in a dual, in a menu screen...so on and so forth.
Right now people pick out of the way spots not often frequented by the average PvPer to duel because there is no proper dueling system or PvP Arena. Once there is this will no longer be an issue period.
For the record the issue being discussed is the practice of common courtesy, and said discussion was not started by OP.
I broadly agree with the op...however i disagree with labelling players toxic if they dont adhere to your artificial principles in an open pvp environment. If you want to kill then so be it.
You're not even trying to listen or understand are you? We get it you don't care how people act in Cyrodiil but for someone that is that way you sure seem to be wanting to debate those that do care one way or another pretty damn hard and even want to debate those that remain neutral until stated otherwise.
Im listening and all im hearing is your opinion is right.
I will debate with whom i like or is that another principle you have?
I do care actually, i care about not forcing others to play how you want and label them toxic otherwise.
Then you're not listening or you don't understand what we are saying and/or just want to respond to everything like that whether it is actually applicable or not.
I do understand. I play in cyrodil as do many others who you would label as toxic.0 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »The maxim buyer beware should be changed to dualler beware.
If you go into cyrodil others can and will kill you regardless of being on own, in a dual, in a menu screen...so on and so forth.
Right now people pick out of the way spots not often frequented by the average PvPer to duel because there is no proper dueling system or PvP Arena. Once there is this will no longer be an issue period.
For the record the issue being discussed is the practice of common courtesy, and said discussion was not started by OP.
I broadly agree with the op...however i disagree with labelling players toxic if they dont adhere to your artificial principles in an open pvp environment. If you want to kill then so be it.
You're not even trying to listen or understand are you? We get it you don't care how people act in Cyrodiil but for someone that is that way you sure seem to be wanting to debate those that do care one way or another pretty damn hard and even want to debate those that remain neutral until stated otherwise.
Im listening and all im hearing is your opinion is right.
I will debate with whom i like or is that another principle you have?
I do care actually, i care about not forcing others to play how you want and label them toxic otherwise.
Then you're not listening or you don't understand what we are saying and/or just want to respond to everything like that whether it is actually applicable or not.
I do understand. I play in cyrodil as do many others who you would label as toxic.
You know at first I was just thinking you only hear what you want to hear but now it seems you're simply stuck on your original misinterpretation even after it was proven misinterpreted. Why you persist with this charade is beyond me but it's honestly quite sad.
I will say this one last time so listen carefully and try to interpret it properly this time without deluding it with your facade: I did not call any PvPers toxic. I did not call anyone toxic. I spoke OF toxic people also known as trolls or griefers but did not call anyone toxic. No one here is calling anyone in particular toxic. No one here is saying PvPers or people that happen to interrupt a duel is toxic. The only thing that is toxic is intent, period, nothing else, end of story.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
Proud Founder of the Yaysay cult! DOWN WITH THE NAYSAY CULT!! #ToxicRemedy1 -
swirve✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »The maxim buyer beware should be changed to dualler beware.
If you go into cyrodil others can and will kill you regardless of being on own, in a dual, in a menu screen...so on and so forth.
Right now people pick out of the way spots not often frequented by the average PvPer to duel because there is no proper dueling system or PvP Arena. Once there is this will no longer be an issue period.
For the record the issue being discussed is the practice of common courtesy, and said discussion was not started by OP.
I broadly agree with the op...however i disagree with labelling players toxic if they dont adhere to your artificial principles in an open pvp environment. If you want to kill then so be it.
You're not even trying to listen or understand are you? We get it you don't care how people act in Cyrodiil but for someone that is that way you sure seem to be wanting to debate those that do care one way or another pretty damn hard and even want to debate those that remain neutral until stated otherwise.
Im listening and all im hearing is your opinion is right.
I will debate with whom i like or is that another principle you have?
I do care actually, i care about not forcing others to play how you want and label them toxic otherwise.
Then you're not listening or you don't understand what we are saying and/or just want to respond to everything like that whether it is actually applicable or not.
I do understand. I play in cyrodil as do many others who you would label as toxic.
You know at first I was just thinking you only hear what you want to hear but now it seems you're simply stuck on your original misinterpretation even after it was proven misinterpreted. Why you persist with this charade is beyond me but it's honestly quite sad.
I will say this one last time so listen carefully and try to interpret it properly this time without deluding it with your facade: I did not call any PvPers toxic. I did not call anyone toxic. I spoke OF toxic people also known as trolls or griefers but did not call anyone toxic. No one here is calling anyone in particular toxic. No one here is saying PvPers or people that happen to interrupt a duel is toxic. The only thing that is toxic is intent, period, nothing else, end of story.
There again you use lots of words with little joined up thinking.
So you like to generalise a group, i recall a number of individuals who have fone that in the past.
You call trolls and griefers toxic.
You call people with intent to interupt duals toxic.
Where in the cyrodil rule book does it say we should not be interupting duals.
What zone is cyrodil...oh its a PVP zone.
It is every players given right to attack opposing players how they like without use intentional cheats.
So you have labelled people who are bound by no zos rule as toxic.
Simple enough for you.
Whether i agree with dual interupting is neither here nor there
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Lettigall✭✭✭✭✭
✭Sometimes duelers find really *** places to duel, like near the keep were fighting is going on and enemy bodies waiting for rez. Don't make me guess what your intentions are. If you want to duel there are plenty secluded places where no one will disturb you!Some men just want to watch the world burn... I just want a cold beer!2 -
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✭I top the hill near a keep or a resource see a fellow faction member fighting, my first reaction red=dead, if it was a duel to bad take it off the beaten path, out of sight, then duel till the cows come home.2 -
Eshelmen✭✭✭✭✭Honestly, if I see my own faction of players dueling a faction, I'll leave it be. But if I come across the other two factions duelling each other? I could care less about the "respect" for the fight. Both are my enemy and well uh, oh well... cry me a river.
Edited by Eshelmen on April 12, 2016 10:25AMPC and PS4 EP only player0 -
NovaMarx✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »The maxim buyer beware should be changed to dualler beware.
If you go into cyrodil others can and will kill you regardless of being on own, in a dual, in a menu screen...so on and so forth.
Right now people pick out of the way spots not often frequented by the average PvPer to duel because there is no proper dueling system or PvP Arena. Once there is this will no longer be an issue period.
For the record the issue being discussed is the practice of common courtesy, and said discussion was not started by OP.
I broadly agree with the op...however i disagree with labelling players toxic if they dont adhere to your artificial principles in an open pvp environment. If you want to kill then so be it.
You're not even trying to listen or understand are you? We get it you don't care how people act in Cyrodiil but for someone that is that way you sure seem to be wanting to debate those that do care one way or another pretty damn hard and even want to debate those that remain neutral until stated otherwise.
Im listening and all im hearing is your opinion is right.
I will debate with whom i like or is that another principle you have?
I do care actually, i care about not forcing others to play how you want and label them toxic otherwise.
Then you're not listening or you don't understand what we are saying and/or just want to respond to everything like that whether it is actually applicable or not.
I do understand. I play in cyrodil as do many others who you would label as toxic.
You know at first I was just thinking you only hear what you want to hear but now it seems you're simply stuck on your original misinterpretation even after it was proven misinterpreted. Why you persist with this charade is beyond me but it's honestly quite sad.
I will say this one last time so listen carefully and try to interpret it properly this time without deluding it with your facade: I did not call any PvPers toxic. I did not call anyone toxic. I spoke OF toxic people also known as trolls or griefers but did not call anyone toxic. No one here is calling anyone in particular toxic. No one here is saying PvPers or people that happen to interrupt a duel is toxic. The only thing that is toxic is intent, period, nothing else, end of story.
There again you use lots of words with little joined up thinking.
So you like to generalise a group, i recall a number of individuals who have fone that in the past.
You call trolls and griefers toxic.
You call people with intent to interupt duals toxic.
Where in the cyrodil rule book does it say we should not be interupting duals.
What zone is cyrodil...oh its a PVP zone.
It is every players given right to attack opposing players how they like without use intentional cheats.
So you have labelled people who are bound by no zos rule as toxic.
Simple enough for you.
Whether i agree with dual interupting is neither here nor there
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at you @swirve
You are either deciding to put other words in @UltimaJoe777's mouth, or you are deliberately misunderstanding his statements, just to troll. Perhaps something he stated was too close to home? Sorry, but I'm completely on Joe's side on this. "Feet are for walking. Hands are for hitting. Or shaking. Or waving. Sometimes for clapping."
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failkiwib16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭o.O well if I ignore the catfight going on here, I've met more griefers and people messing up duels among the duellers, than randoms. By that I mean people interrupting duels, killing rez'ers, healing etc.
Duelling events where multiple members from each faction show up is more of a luxury ...often when 2-3 players wants to duel eachother, they go near a keep for the less skilled dueller, so he/she can have a fast spawn point.
It is your full right to interrupt and kill anyone you can in pvp, and others have their full right to consider you as a ***. They can't demand that you play as they want, and you can't demand them to like you for playing as you want.1 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »The maxim buyer beware should be changed to dualler beware.
If you go into cyrodil others can and will kill you regardless of being on own, in a dual, in a menu screen...so on and so forth.
Right now people pick out of the way spots not often frequented by the average PvPer to duel because there is no proper dueling system or PvP Arena. Once there is this will no longer be an issue period.
For the record the issue being discussed is the practice of common courtesy, and said discussion was not started by OP.
I broadly agree with the op...however i disagree with labelling players toxic if they dont adhere to your artificial principles in an open pvp environment. If you want to kill then so be it.
You're not even trying to listen or understand are you? We get it you don't care how people act in Cyrodiil but for someone that is that way you sure seem to be wanting to debate those that do care one way or another pretty damn hard and even want to debate those that remain neutral until stated otherwise.
Im listening and all im hearing is your opinion is right.
I will debate with whom i like or is that another principle you have?
I do care actually, i care about not forcing others to play how you want and label them toxic otherwise.
Then you're not listening or you don't understand what we are saying and/or just want to respond to everything like that whether it is actually applicable or not.
I do understand. I play in cyrodil as do many others who you would label as toxic.
You know at first I was just thinking you only hear what you want to hear but now it seems you're simply stuck on your original misinterpretation even after it was proven misinterpreted. Why you persist with this charade is beyond me but it's honestly quite sad.
I will say this one last time so listen carefully and try to interpret it properly this time without deluding it with your facade: I did not call any PvPers toxic. I did not call anyone toxic. I spoke OF toxic people also known as trolls or griefers but did not call anyone toxic. No one here is calling anyone in particular toxic. No one here is saying PvPers or people that happen to interrupt a duel is toxic. The only thing that is toxic is intent, period, nothing else, end of story.
There again you use lots of words with little joined up thinking.
So you like to generalise a group, i recall a number of individuals who have fone that in the past.
You call trolls and griefers toxic.
You call people with intent to interupt duals toxic.
Where in the cyrodil rule book does it say we should not be interupting duals.
What zone is cyrodil...oh its a PVP zone.
It is every players given right to attack opposing players how they like without use intentional cheats.
So you have labelled people who are bound by no zos rule as toxic.
Simple enough for you.
Whether i agree with dual interupting is neither here nor there
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at you @swirve You are either deciding to put other words in @UltimaJoe777's mouth, or you are deliberately misunderstanding his statements, just to troll. Perhaps something he stated was too close to home? Sorry, but I'm completely on Joe's side on this.
I've tried to explain it as simply and clearly as I could but the persistence is real. Let 'em say and believe whatever for there is clearly going to be no change.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
Proud Founder of the Yaysay cult! DOWN WITH THE NAYSAY CULT!! #ToxicRemedy2 -
Brrrofski✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭I always let people fight 1v1. Always interesting to see who'll win. But I wouldn't blame someone for joining in if they're near a keep.Edited by Brrrofski on April 12, 2016 10:34AM1 -
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✭✭✭only the nords would posdibly not look to kill an enemy on sight if in a duel already...
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swirve✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »The maxim buyer beware should be changed to dualler beware.
If you go into cyrodil others can and will kill you regardless of being on own, in a dual, in a menu screen...so on and so forth.
Right now people pick out of the way spots not often frequented by the average PvPer to duel because there is no proper dueling system or PvP Arena. Once there is this will no longer be an issue period.
For the record the issue being discussed is the practice of common courtesy, and said discussion was not started by OP.
I broadly agree with the op...however i disagree with labelling players toxic if they dont adhere to your artificial principles in an open pvp environment. If you want to kill then so be it.
You're not even trying to listen or understand are you? We get it you don't care how people act in Cyrodiil but for someone that is that way you sure seem to be wanting to debate those that do care one way or another pretty damn hard and even want to debate those that remain neutral until stated otherwise.
Im listening and all im hearing is your opinion is right.
I will debate with whom i like or is that another principle you have?
I do care actually, i care about not forcing others to play how you want and label them toxic otherwise.
Then you're not listening or you don't understand what we are saying and/or just want to respond to everything like that whether it is actually applicable or not.
I do understand. I play in cyrodil as do many others who you would label as toxic.
You know at first I was just thinking you only hear what you want to hear but now it seems you're simply stuck on your original misinterpretation even after it was proven misinterpreted. Why you persist with this charade is beyond me but it's honestly quite sad.
I will say this one last time so listen carefully and try to interpret it properly this time without deluding it with your facade: I did not call any PvPers toxic. I did not call anyone toxic. I spoke OF toxic people also known as trolls or griefers but did not call anyone toxic. No one here is calling anyone in particular toxic. No one here is saying PvPers or people that happen to interrupt a duel is toxic. The only thing that is toxic is intent, period, nothing else, end of story.
There again you use lots of words with little joined up thinking.
So you like to generalise a group, i recall a number of individuals who have fone that in the past.
You call trolls and griefers toxic.
You call people with intent to interupt duals toxic.
Where in the cyrodil rule book does it say we should not be interupting duals.
What zone is cyrodil...oh its a PVP zone.
It is every players given right to attack opposing players how they like without use intentional cheats.
So you have labelled people who are bound by no zos rule as toxic.
Simple enough for you.
Whether i agree with dual interupting is neither here nor there
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at you @swirve You are either deciding to put other words in @UltimaJoe777's mouth, or you are deliberately misunderstanding his statements, just to troll. Perhaps something he stated was too close to home? Sorry, but I'm completely on Joe's side on this.
Good for you. Keep trying to label players in open pvp as toxic.0 -
swirve✭✭✭✭I always let people fight 1v1. Always interesting to see who'll win. But I wouldn't blame someone for joining in if they're near a keep.
How do you know that is a dual. It might be a ganker finding a lone target to prey on. If they were a member of my pact i would help them but then some of us play open pvp where the enemy is the enemy others try to enforce their own mingame rules on others2 -
swirve✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »UltimaJoe777 wrote: »The maxim buyer beware should be changed to dualler beware.
If you go into cyrodil others can and will kill you regardless of being on own, in a dual, in a menu screen...so on and so forth.
Right now people pick out of the way spots not often frequented by the average PvPer to duel because there is no proper dueling system or PvP Arena. Once there is this will no longer be an issue period.
For the record the issue being discussed is the practice of common courtesy, and said discussion was not started by OP.
I broadly agree with the op...however i disagree with labelling players toxic if they dont adhere to your artificial principles in an open pvp environment. If you want to kill then so be it.
You're not even trying to listen or understand are you? We get it you don't care how people act in Cyrodiil but for someone that is that way you sure seem to be wanting to debate those that do care one way or another pretty damn hard and even want to debate those that remain neutral until stated otherwise.
Im listening and all im hearing is your opinion is right.
I will debate with whom i like or is that another principle you have?
I do care actually, i care about not forcing others to play how you want and label them toxic otherwise.
Then you're not listening or you don't understand what we are saying and/or just want to respond to everything like that whether it is actually applicable or not.
I do understand. I play in cyrodil as do many others who you would label as toxic.
You know at first I was just thinking you only hear what you want to hear but now it seems you're simply stuck on your original misinterpretation even after it was proven misinterpreted. Why you persist with this charade is beyond me but it's honestly quite sad.
I will say this one last time so listen carefully and try to interpret it properly this time without deluding it with your facade: I did not call any PvPers toxic. I did not call anyone toxic. I spoke OF toxic people also known as trolls or griefers but did not call anyone toxic. No one here is calling anyone in particular toxic. No one here is saying PvPers or people that happen to interrupt a duel is toxic. The only thing that is toxic is intent, period, nothing else, end of story.
There again you use lots of words with little joined up thinking.
So you like to generalise a group, i recall a number of individuals who have fone that in the past.
You call trolls and griefers toxic.
You call people with intent to interupt duals toxic.
Where in the cyrodil rule book does it say we should not be interupting duals.
What zone is cyrodil...oh its a PVP zone.
It is every players given right to attack opposing players how they like without use intentional cheats.
So you have labelled people who are bound by no zos rule as toxic.
Simple enough for you.
Whether i agree with dual interupting is neither here nor there
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at you @swirve You are either deciding to put other words in @UltimaJoe777's mouth, or you are deliberately misunderstanding his statements, just to troll. Perhaps something he stated was too close to home? Sorry, but I'm completely on Joe's side on this.
I've tried to explain it as simply and clearly as I could but the persistence is real. Let 'em say and believe whatever for there is clearly going to be no change.
Youve tried to explain that you feel certain segments of the playerbase are toxic for not abiding by your rules. If i see an enemy player i will attack them if i can, if it means saving a fellow pact player and that makes me toxic kudos to you leet duallersEdited by swirve on April 12, 2016 11:46AM0 -
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✭If you can see there is a duel happening and you interuppt it, im afraid you are just a ***0 -
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Obviously i mean pre-arranged duels where you see all factions stood around watching and participating.0 -
swirve✭✭✭✭
Obviously i mean pre-arranged duels where you see all factions stood around watching and participating.
In which case lone or small groups would leave alone. Which is what i said early on if you want to dual in cyrodil you take the risk and either go far away from beaten path or go with a group.
But a lot of duallers are entitled and feel they can dual whereever they like and you are toxic for killingvthem in an open pvp.
Also if a group of duallers are happening and a zerg comes across them its sh it luck for them. That is life and how it works in an open pvp.1 -
ajwest927✭✭✭ZOS need to hurry up and develop a real pvp arena so this type of situation can be avoided1 -
Valrien✭✭✭✭✭
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Obviously i mean pre-arranged duels where you see all factions stood around watching and participating.
In which case lone or small groups would leave alone. Which is what i said early on if you want to dual in cyrodil you take the risk and either go far away from beaten path or go with a group.
But a lot of duallers are entitled and feel they can dual whereever they like and you are toxic for killingvthem in an open pvp.
Also if a group of duallers are happening and a zerg comes across them its sh it luck for them. That is life and how it works in an open pvp.
I gotta say it.
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Chelos✭✭✭✭✭It is very intriguing that people are trying to impose their set of rules on an area and expect that to be acceptable.
This is exactly analogous to people who compalin about grinders in "their" area or farming in "their" farmspots.
You don't own any part of the enviroment.
You also create the base for what might be considered 'toxic' behaviour.
In the end, you create the grief in trying to impose a set of behavioral rules that are not en integral part of the enviroment.
Your responsibility! Accept it.
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dRudE✭✭✭Been thinking about this subject a little bit lately since "ruining" a few duelling events.
Duelling is a great way to pvp, I am all for having arena's and battlegrounds that cater to duellers as well as prems, in fact I think the duellers deserve more of that content to play with.
But when your in cyrodiil, your open for anyone to attack/kill you. Cyrodiil is a game of war, it's about team strat and is as close to open world pvp that can be achieved in this game. Just because your duelling, doesn't give you special rights to not be attacked. Don't grief me for accidentally stumbling into a pile of AP, create ideas to provide a way for duellers to have their protected space to play in, I'll contribute to that.
Calling a team player toxic in an environment that only supports team play legitimately, carries the same weight as the team players calling duellers toxic for not partaking in the team event.
By team play I mean I play EP and only EP, I'll play the map and play for the fights, I'll rez any fallen EP I see and attack any DC and AD I come accross. Sometimes I'm solo, sometimes I'm grouped.
My argument for being a loyalist EP here is that this is a game. Games and sports in my eyes are the only places humanity should pit ourselves against each other and take on team mentality, outside of this we work together and are all one team(hopefully one day).~Necrow0 -
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✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »
It is not your actions that determine whether you are toxic or not, it is your intent. If someone interrupts a duel unaware it was a duel that does not make them toxic. If someone interrupts a duel because they see an easy mark that does not necessarily make them toxic either. If someone interrupts a duel with the sheer intention of just interrupting it, well aware it is a duel, for the sake of griefing though then they can be considered toxic.
I totally disagree with this line of thinking (and it's not just you). And unfortunately, I agree with the person you are going back and forth with.
You want to change the entire paradigm presented by PvP in general. It's a warzone where factions are violently opposed to one another. And you want people to observe and see that it's a friendly dual and not have the "intention of simply interrupting it". That is not the scenario that was intended in PvP. We are all at war. If you see randoms dualing, you should attempt to kill the enemy. And I would add another factor that SHOULD be available: you should also be allowed to kill the traitor in your own faction who is in a friendly dual. Unfortunately you can't do that.
So even the intention of breaking up the dual is not "toxic," rather it's keeping in line with the entire story, history, and game design that was intended.
You look goofy and stupid jumping up and down in a war zone just because you want to dual. You can call that toxic, but I consider your interpretation toxic to the environment of the game. So until they add an Arena, I will keep effing up your duals just on principle. I will die every time (squishy squishy NB), cause I'm outnumbered around a group of onlookers. But I spawn 100 ft from here, so good luck finishing a single dual to completion. Not to mention, there is incentive for me to do so: about 800AP for each player killed. Even if I wait and take out only one at a time, that's still a constant steam of AP. So keep dualing, and I'll keep ganking you all one at a time.
Dualing in open PvP is toxic. Get a room.
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✭✭✭✭✭If they're in an opposing faction and in cyrodiil why wouldn't we take the time to kill them. They're fair game. Who cares if they are dueling.
In cyrodiil it's our duty to kill the opposing faction.1 -
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✭I love coming across a Duel. I yell, "Just watching! Will Rez post-fight so you can have more Duels!
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It's fun to watch and sometimes I even get invited to partake...though I'm not all that great. Still a blast! I always get a kick out of when the opposing faction player loses and then 10 players come out of Stealth to rez the person. Sneaky, sneaky!!!
I wouldn't like to be killed by a 3rd party while Dueling, but I guess "PvP in a PvP area" is going to happen eventually. I would never do it, though.Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...1