Unplayable

Joy_Division · April 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

Darnathian wrote: »

Disable Haxus and similar guilds AP farming till lag is fixed. You can see the spike everytime someone is farming. GG

Or don't go get farmed. GG

Someone's got to kill the farmers.

Akinos · April 2016

Jules wrote: »

Please fix lag zos. Please.

I see nothing wrong Jules, clearly your hard drive is failing if you lag~!

frozywozy · April 2016

Saturday night, we actually had some great PVP with near to no lag. There was that major fight between EP and DC at Sejanus and my ping stayed at 100ms for the whole evening. Then we had this fight at Aleswell sunday night that lasted 1hour~ with a ping average of 600ms. That was disgusting.

What did we learn from this?

Stacking two factions in one keep DOESN'T WORK with the actual population caps. Sending a DC group to Sej or anywhere else on the map while the rest of the faction pushes toward Bleaks / Chal is much more favorable. Same goes for EP and AD. This was not meant to be a blame toward DC.

EsoRecon · April 2016

Jules wrote: »

Please fix lag zos. Please.

solution: perma ban all players in zergs

= no more lag for the good players

Slaxis · April 2016

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

EsoRecon · April 2016

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

but toxic is fun

frozywozy · April 2016

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

Zheg · April 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Minno · April 2016

Zheg wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Waiting for that moment when the remaining CN members start up the Dolph Lundgren guild.

Sallington · April 2016

Minno wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Waiting for that moment when the remaining CN members start up the Dolph Lundgren guild.

Full penetration?

Ghostbane · April 2016

Minno wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Waiting for that moment when the remaining CN members start up the Dolph Lundgren guild.

Where'd the others go?

Minno · April 2016

Sallington wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Waiting for that moment when the remaining CN members start up the Dolph Lundgren guild.

Full penetration?

His body is always ready.

frozywozy · April 2016

Zheg wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Don't get me wrong man, the red guilds hate me probably as much as you guys do now. Yesterday I literally lost my patience and raged in chat against people zerging Aleswell. I'm so sick and tired of people balling up. Yes sometimes you will see me part of the masses, but trust me I try to avoid it as much as possible. Sometimes it just gets tiring to push an objective with 4 players when we get zerged down over and over. So we rejoin the masses to give us a break. And then it starts lagging like crazy so we go back to our side of the map to get zerged down again.

I've given up trying to convince EP guilds to spread out. I know Haxus or Invictus do efforts when they go over to Nikel or Brindle but I can't say the same for others.

People simply don't get it. I ask them to get off Aleswell and they say that if they do DC will keep pushing us to Bleakers and Chal and we will lose everything. They don't understand that if you send one group deeper in their territory, it will spread people out and we will get better fights in the end. But nope.. gotta follow the masses and the transit line tunnel visionning and then QQ about the lag.

Minno · April 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Waiting for that moment when the remaining CN members start up the Dolph Lundgren guild.

Where'd the others go?

No idea. I quit ESO and am only forum lurking watching out for if pvp lag gets fixed.

Minno · April 2016

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

Humanity is generally toxic if left unchecked.

Zheg · April 2016

Minno wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Waiting for that moment when the remaining CN members start up the Dolph Lundgren guild.

Where'd the others go?

No idea. I quit ESO and am only forum lurking watching out for if pvp lag gets fixed.

Remnants are still playing, but I don't think they have raid leaders still playing. They had a small group going this weekend I think.

Sallington · April 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Don't get me wrong man, the red guilds hate me probably as much as you guys do now. Yesterday I literally lost my patience and raged in chat against people zerging Aleswell. I'm so sick and tired of people balling up. Yes sometimes you will see me part of the masses, but trust me I try to avoid it as much as possible. Sometimes it just gets tiring to push an objective with 4 players when we get zerged down over and over. So we rejoin the masses to give us a break. And then it starts lagging like crazy so we go back to our side of the map to get zerged down again.

I've given up trying to convince EP guilds to spread out. I know Haxus or Invictus do efforts when they go over to Nikel or Brindle but I can't say the same for others.

People simply don't get it. I ask them to get off Aleswell and they say that if they do DC will keep pushing us to Bleakers and Chal and we will lose everything. They don't understand that if you send one group deeper in their territory, it will spread people out and we will get better fights in the end. But nope.. gotta follow the masses and the transit line tunnel visionning and then QQ about the lag.

This is why I think all mounts in Cyrodil should be max speed when you bring them out. People hate the 2 minutes it takes to ride somewhere, and only fight where the transit shrines can take them.

We all obviously blame ZOS for most (all) of the problems, but I don't even blame players any more. How can I, when ZOS does nothing to prevent and everything to aid the current ball group meta.

Minno · April 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Waiting for that moment when the remaining CN members start up the Dolph Lundgren guild.

Where'd the others go?

No idea. I quit ESO and am only forum lurking watching out for if pvp lag gets fixed.

Remnants are still playing, but I don't think they have raid leaders still playing. They had a small group going this weekend I think.

We are all waiting for that special pvp feeling.
I have $60+ waiting for the first game to give me gameplay again.

Sallington · April 2016

Minno wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Waiting for that moment when the remaining CN members start up the Dolph Lundgren guild.

Where'd the others go?

No idea. I quit ESO and am only forum lurking watching out for if pvp lag gets fixed.

Remnants are still playing, but I don't think they have raid leaders still playing. They had a small group going this weekend I think.

We are all waiting for that special pvp feeling.
I have $60+ waiting for the first game to give me gameplay again.

This one game got a $60 pledge from me the day after TG dropped...

_Chaos · April 2016

Sallington wrote: »

How can I, when ZOS does nothing to prevent and everything to aid the current ball group meta.

Why do you insist on calling this "ball group meta"
I haven't seen a ball group in ages. It's full on zerg city out there right now.

Sallington · April 2016

_Chaos wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

How can I, when ZOS does nothing to prevent and everything to aid the current ball group meta.

Why do you insist on calling this "ball group meta"
I haven't seen a ball group in ages. It's full on zerg city out there right now.

Habit lol. There's just so many people in one spot, it inevitably just looks like a big ball of people.

Satiar · April 2016

Sallington wrote: »

_Chaos wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

How can I, when ZOS does nothing to prevent and everything to aid the current ball group meta.

Why do you insist on calling this "ball group meta"
I haven't seen a ball group in ages. It's full on zerg city out there right now.

Habit lol. There's just so many people in one spot, it inevitably just looks like a big ball of people.

Even Sauron can't defeat the dreaded BALL GROUP!

Minno · April 2016

Sallington wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Ghostbane wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Waiting for that moment when the remaining CN members start up the Dolph Lundgren guild.

Where'd the others go?

No idea. I quit ESO and am only forum lurking watching out for if pvp lag gets fixed.

Remnants are still playing, but I don't think they have raid leaders still playing. They had a small group going this weekend I think.

We are all waiting for that special pvp feeling.
I have $60+ waiting for the first game to give me gameplay again.

This one game got a $60 pledge from me the day after TG dropped...

Yea I'd do the same, but it's a personal preference of mine to not support early release titles. I'm a gamer not an investor; I'll put money in a project via a purchasable and tangible final product.

Zheg · April 2016

Sallington wrote: »

_Chaos wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

How can I, when ZOS does nothing to prevent and everything to aid the current ball group meta.

Why do you insist on calling this "ball group meta"
I haven't seen a ball group in ages. It's full on zerg city out there right now.

Habit lol. There's just so many people in one spot, it inevitably just looks like a big ball of people.

Give us back 1 of the 3: rapids, barrier, purge - and the zergs would not be as unchecked as they currently are. I think I'd prefer rapids most of all, right now you just get surrounded on all sides, siege goes up, and we either laugh or sigh at how outnumbered the fight is.

Ghostbane · April 2016

Satiar wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

_Chaos wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

How can I, when ZOS does nothing to prevent and everything to aid the current ball group meta.

Why do you insist on calling this "ball group meta"
I haven't seen a ball group in ages. It's full on zerg city out there right now.

Habit lol. There's just so many people in one spot, it inevitably just looks like a big ball of people.

Even Sauron can't defeat the dreaded BALL GROUP!

Ball group used the ring exploit tho..

zyk · April 2016

Minno wrote: »

Waiting for that moment when the remaining CN members start up the Dolph Lundgren guild.

I would prefer it if they went with Jan-Michael Vincent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLB4dU3Yc6M

ataggs · April 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Don't get me wrong man, the red guilds hate me probably as much as you guys do now. Yesterday I literally lost my patience and raged in chat against people zerging Aleswell. I'm so sick and tired of people balling up. Yes sometimes you will see me part of the masses, but trust me I try to avoid it as much as possible. Sometimes it just gets tiring to push an objective with 4 players when we get zerged down over and over. So we rejoin the masses to give us a break. And then it starts lagging like crazy so we go back to our side of the map to get zerged down again.

I've given up trying to convince EP guilds to spread out. I know Haxus or Invictus do efforts when they go over to Nikel or Brindle but I can't say the same for others.

People simply don't get it. I ask them to get off Aleswell and they say that if they do DC will keep pushing us to Bleakers and Chal and we will lose everything. They don't understand that if you send one group deeper in their territory, it will spread people out and we will get better fights in the end. But nope.. gotta follow the masses and the transit line tunnel visionning and then QQ about the lag.

As miserable as it has been fighting the Red Sea lately, you can't blame players for playing to win. Numbers win, so they play in large numbers.

People will also run to where the fight is. Usually there is one big fight in the map at a time.

I get your frustration, but I think this patch proved that changing play style won't fix a broken game.

Hektik_V · April 2016

ataggs wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Don't get me wrong man, the red guilds hate me probably as much as you guys do now. Yesterday I literally lost my patience and raged in chat against people zerging Aleswell. I'm so sick and tired of people balling up. Yes sometimes you will see me part of the masses, but trust me I try to avoid it as much as possible. Sometimes it just gets tiring to push an objective with 4 players when we get zerged down over and over. So we rejoin the masses to give us a break. And then it starts lagging like crazy so we go back to our side of the map to get zerged down again.

I've given up trying to convince EP guilds to spread out. I know Haxus or Invictus do efforts when they go over to Nikel or Brindle but I can't say the same for others.

People simply don't get it. I ask them to get off Aleswell and they say that if they do DC will keep pushing us to Bleakers and Chal and we will lose everything. They don't understand that if you send one group deeper in their territory, it will spread people out and we will get better fights in the end. But nope.. gotta follow the masses and the transit line tunnel visionning and then QQ about the lag.

As miserable as it has been fighting the Red Sea lately, you can't blame players for playing to win. Numbers win, so they play in large numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCrp2cHFOGM

Just three months ago this was a nightly occurrence.

MichYodias · April 2016

frozywozy wrote: »

Saturday night, we actually had some great PVP with near to no lag. There was that major fight between EP and DC at Sejanus and my ping stayed at 100ms for the whole evening. Then we had this fight at Aleswell sunday night that lasted 1hour~ with a ping average of 600ms. That was disgusting.

What did we learn from this?

Stacking two factions in one keep DOESN'T WORK with the actual population caps. Sending a DC group to Sej or anywhere else on the map while the rest of the faction pushes toward Bleaks / Chal is much more favorable. Same goes for EP and AD. This was not meant to be a blame toward DC.

Did you happen to see a lot of sorcerer pets at this fight by any chance?

Zheg · April 2016

Hektik_V wrote: »

ataggs wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

frozywozy wrote: »

Slaxis wrote: »

Eso community is so toxic anymore when blame is on ZOS for there *** game. Glad I chose to.move on from this game. Wish you all the best.

While I agree that the responsability for bad performances is on Zenimax's hand first, I believe that we can make it better as players if we adopt certain behaviors while playing and encourage others to do so.

For whatever reason, EP has taken it upon themselves to embrace the legacy of old-school CN and NPK and stack as many in one spot as possible. I sometimes (and by sometimes I mean nightly) see your crew, pact, haxus, all for a combined 50+ stack to push ales while you still have 3+ emp keeps. The reason we went to sej that night was because we couldn't stomach the zerg any more, and because for whatever reason I'm one of the unlucky few that crashes and can't get back into the game with numbers like that, and that doesn't really work when you're leading. The reason the sej fights were ok ping wise was because everyone was spread over an entire field and not all at one keep, and there wasn't an obscene amount of siege from pugs. We ran all the way across the map to avoid the red horde stacking ales-bleaks-chal, and even then, eventually they amassed at BRK to see what was going on at the sej corridor.

CN is done. There are 2 large guilds left on blue on TF, and we ran relatively small for most days over the past week. When the ping is that bad now, it's pretty much entirely because of red, and pretty much entirely because there's an active emp and people are funneled to objectives. So, you're right, we can make it better, and it starts with stopping the red horde from amassing as large as it has the past week or so.

Not sure when Jules' screenshot was taken, but 'last emp keep' has now translated to treating every keep in the ring that way in terms of numbers. It's one thing if you're down to 2 or 1 emp keeps, but when you have 5? It's disgusting, and the very thing people railed so hard against CN for doing.

Don't get me wrong man, the red guilds hate me probably as much as you guys do now. Yesterday I literally lost my patience and raged in chat against people zerging Aleswell. I'm so sick and tired of people balling up. Yes sometimes you will see me part of the masses, but trust me I try to avoid it as much as possible. Sometimes it just gets tiring to push an objective with 4 players when we get zerged down over and over. So we rejoin the masses to give us a break. And then it starts lagging like crazy so we go back to our side of the map to get zerged down again.

I've given up trying to convince EP guilds to spread out. I know Haxus or Invictus do efforts when they go over to Nikel or Brindle but I can't say the same for others.

People simply don't get it. I ask them to get off Aleswell and they say that if they do DC will keep pushing us to Bleakers and Chal and we will lose everything. They don't understand that if you send one group deeper in their territory, it will spread people out and we will get better fights in the end. But nope.. gotta follow the masses and the transit line tunnel visionning and then QQ about the lag.

As miserable as it has been fighting the Red Sea lately, you can't blame players for playing to win. Numbers win, so they play in large numbers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCrp2cHFOGM

Just three months ago this was a nightly occurrence.

Three months ago I could link any number of vids of 2 pact militia raids with your group embedded in the middle as well, so both sides were guilty. It was also nightly occurrence for you to complain about stacking and numbers, so if it was so wrong then, what makes it kosher to do it now? One would think that someone who railed so hard against stacking last patch would be anathema to it. This patch has made stacking worse; throw in a day-capped emperor and you have the clustereff we currently have on TF. No sh3t the game is unplayable right now.