I think your sample size alone is not enough to make such assumptions. Perhaps EU does have a larger pop overall, but NA is still pretty healthy, and growing. For perspective, my trade guild has 400+ on at primetime. Hell, my RP hub guild has 200-400 on regularly.

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ElderBugOffline wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

my trade guild has 400+ on at primetime. Hell, my RP hub guild has 200-400 on regularly.

screens plz?

Joy_Division wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

ElderBugOffline wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

my trade guild has 400+ on at primetime. Hell, my RP hub guild has 200-400 on regularly.

screens plz?

At work and it's not primetime here anyway. Furthermore, why? Why do you require such evidence? What is your point in all this and what are you trying to prove?
Edit: I'm on pc, I have no clue what console numbers look like.

Because having 400+ active at the same time in a guild that has a max of 499 players is exactly the sort of highly improbable occurrence that requires evidence to make the claim credible.

He's lying, as people typically do when they get defensive about something.

I don't know where you get your numbers from, but NA seems perfectly active to me. Sure, a lot of people left for consoles, but I've never thought to myself that there weren't enough people playing the game.

As for traders, you want to look at Rawl'ka for the most expensive ones, those usually go for a few million each week. Reason why Rawl'ka is the nr.1 spot on NA is because it used to be a farming spot for purple motifs.


I would say calling the PC NA megaserver dead is an enormous overstatement. Also, a lot of people are returning to the game as well as new players joining in. Had you called the game dead a year ago around the content drought then I might have agreed, but that's definitely not the case now.

Saturn wrote: »

I don't know where you get your numbers from, but NA seems perfectly active to me. Sure, a lot of people left for consoles, but I've never thought to myself that there weren't enough people playing the game.

As for traders, you want to look at Rawl'ka for the most expensive ones, those usually go for a few million each week. Reason why Rawl'ka is the nr.1 spot on NA is because it used to be a farming spot for purple motifs.


I would say calling the PC NA megaserver dead is an enormous overstatement. Also, a lot of people are returning to the game as well as new players joining in. Had you called the game dead a year ago around the content drought then I might have agreed, but that's definitely not the case now.

Nah there are three reasons Rawlkha became the main hub.

1. AD vastly out populated the factions at launch (i recall a pie chart from may 2014 that showed fully 60 percent of the playerbase was AD). In fact to this day youll notice the majority of the trade guilds are still AD guilds as a result of this.

2. The town services are very tightly packed and convenient. In fact its the only town in all of AD land that doesnt have everything scattered to the four corners over logs roots trees and water to get to it.

3. Everyone and their mother went there for vamp and werewolf bite buying/selling for the first 3 months of the game. You had to go to Rawl to get one and pay huge prices because of demand.


I mean i suppose motif farming had something to do with it, but there were much much better grind spots than there (that town on the west side of the rift comes to mind)

There are rumours that people from NA change to EU megaserver more often recently .

Gargath wrote: »

There are rumours that people from NA change to EU megaserver more often recently .

kinda true as well, oddly they went AD as well >.>

Callous2208 wrote: »

dsalter wrote: »

doesn't PC NA hang out mostly in the TG and cyrodiil area's?

Depends on faction as well. The capital cities are always packed due to Undaunted Conclave and the better traders. Also good places to sell In zone chat. Some other cities like Riften for EP are Rp hubs and general crafting areas. Craglorn and its traders have been semi dead for some time.

Craplorn is quite busy on EU, while places like the TG zone are not, just depends on the people as well

Rylana wrote: »

Saturn wrote: »

I don't know where you get your numbers from, but NA seems perfectly active to me. Sure, a lot of people left for consoles, but I've never thought to myself that there weren't enough people playing the game.

As for traders, you want to look at Rawl'ka for the most expensive ones, those usually go for a few million each week. Reason why Rawl'ka is the nr.1 spot on NA is because it used to be a farming spot for purple motifs.


I would say calling the PC NA megaserver dead is an enormous overstatement. Also, a lot of people are returning to the game as well as new players joining in. Had you called the game dead a year ago around the content drought then I might have agreed, but that's definitely not the case now.

Nah there are three reasons Rawlkha became the main hub.

1. AD vastly out populated the factions at launch (i recall a pie chart from may 2014 that showed fully 60 percent of the playerbase was AD). In fact to this day youll notice the majority of the trade guilds are still AD guilds as a result of this.

2. The town services are very tightly packed and convenient. In fact its the only town in all of AD land that doesnt have everything scattered to the four corners over logs roots trees and water to get to it.

3. Everyone and their mother went there for vamp and werewolf bite buying/selling for the first 3 months of the game. You had to go to Rawl to get one and pay huge prices because of demand.


I mean i suppose motif farming had something to do with it, but there were much much better grind spots than there (that town on the west side of the rift comes to mind)

Biggest reason I would think. I'm mostly covenant but that is still the first place I go to access my bank, guild stores, decon, etc. Add having a Thieves den right up front so you can zone in and out for mail just makes it the top crafting/commerce spot for a lot of people. Makes sense to set up shop there.

Only thing missing is a respec shrine and undaunted.

Well I mean, if people weren't leaving for EU maybe NA would have more people.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Why is this a surprise? I thought it was well known EU has a higher population? NA isn't dead by any means but it was something that has seemed the case for a while.

freespirit wrote: »

We were discussing this last night, whilst raiding in IC and sewers and regularly running into large groups of opposing players.

The group I was in had several members who had transferred from NA to EU and what I found interesting was their reasoning. They pretty unanimously stated they had tried EU after becoming fed up with the lack of community feel on NA and had ended up staying because of how friendly they found the EU server population to be.

I love the EU server for this reason.
I find it much calmer, quieter and a lot friendlier when people do start chatting in zone. People seem far more willing to help. Compared to NA zone which, sadly, I've found to be horribly rude and abusive rather than anything else.