Monthly PVP updates.. From Team ZOS....where are they ?

Lord-Stien · April 2016

So...... what happend to our monthly pvp updates and info..

It used to be great that we would get updates from the Dev's and such ....

Last one was in June ?

Come on

@ZOS_GinaBruno we miss your updates..
@ZOS_BrianWheeler we miss you too, swing by .. say hello ... have some skooma....

Super salt out

Zheg · April 2016

Brian made a few posts on performance this week and those had been the only ones in weeks from anybody. This is a dead horse that's been beaten excessively already. Some attempts to get them to communicate are nice and encouraging, some are blunt and lack patience like mine, some are just pure desperation. Either way they would communicate if they wanted to and/or if they actually had a plan in place.

When things get difficult and they make mistakes, ZOS tends to go completely silent and pretend like things are fine. Meanwhile I get more than weekly updates as a CU backer for a game busy trying to shift to beta than I do for a game that's been out for two years and should be at a point where it's coasting (if it had been managed properly).

Lord-Stien · April 2016

True... i get Daily updates from star citizen.. and it in alpha

tinythinker · April 2016

Two limitations to keep in mind are:

1. Simply talking about the same issues of optimization ("we're peeling back layers and finding more layers to work on") gets old and isn't that informative, so, it would end up being repetitive technical stuff that players would get tired of. Maybe ZOS figures they should wait until there is something more substantial to share.

2. ZOS seems to like the silence/secrecy --> sudden reveal "**HYPE**!!" model for even remotely significant changes to cover their rears in case something isn't ready or doesn't pan out and also to be able to make the most out of even medium size changes.

Put those together and presto, you get the way things are. I can understand why devs might favor the cautious approach, though I wouldn't mind more of even the boring, somewhat repetitive info. But the corporate culture at ZOS is what it is. Hopefully we'll get a pleasant surprise reveal of some new assets they've been working on in the near future.

Soulac · April 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Brian made a few posts on performance this week and those had been the only ones in weeks from anybody. This is a dead horse that's been beaten excessively already. Some attempts to get them to communicate are nice and encouraging, some are blunt and lack patience like mine, some are just pure desperation. Either way they would communicate if they wanted to and/or if they actually had a plan in place.

When things get difficult and they make mistakes, ZOS tends to go completely silent and pretend like things are fine. Meanwhile I get more than weekly updates as a CU backer for a game busy trying to shift to beta than I do for a game that's been out for two years and should be at a point where it's coasting (if it had been managed properly).

Difference is that citystategames actually cares about their community. So much information and livestreams everywhere.. I like it.

zyk · April 2016

We're being blown off. I try to avoid saying never, but at least up until now, ZOS has been unwilling to invest in finishing Cyrodiil. It is my opinion that the decision was made to put Cyrodiil on "life support" during the spring/summer of 2014. Whatever the case may be, ZOS leadership has determined the best course of action is a kind of whitewash to limit bad PR by not validating our concerns with honest responses.

It should be apparent to all by now that ESO launched before it was ready. It was not even feature complete. Since launch, ZOS has been focused on finishing the PVE side of the game. ZOS has also shifted lanes based on how the market has changed. When development began, this was a game being made for MMO enthusiasts. It is now primarily a game for the mainstream fans of Skyrim.

Now that the PVE side has found its stride, will ZOS now finish Cyrodiil? It's impossible for us to say. I tend to think the ultimate solution to PVP in ESO will be instanced PVP and Cyrodiil will never work as advertised.

FireCowCommando · April 2016

PvP hit menopause, the regular monthly updates have dissapeared

WalkingLegacy · April 2016

Does it matter if they fix it? I finally hit Vet rank and Gold Cloaks are no where to be found.

Seems like all the big guilds are gone and why should they come back with how they're treated.

Lord-Stien · April 2016

Still, and update of hey we are working on what ever ...would be great..

hell the only time we really see mods or dev's on here is when they are running through the forums looking for more account to ban.. or threads to lock..

except @ZOS_GinaBruno she is in here a lot ... for bug help

Iyas · April 2016

Communication is the key for every healthy relationship. We're more in a abusive relationship

KenaPKK · April 2016

ZoS communicate?

yea ok

Yuke · April 2016

Lord-Stien wrote: »

True... i get Daily updates from star citizen.. and it in alpha

Hey, thats not fair, SC is a 100 mio dollar project and has the resources for daily communication with their backers!! ... ZoS on the other hand ... oh ... wait... nevermind.

zZzleepyhead · April 2016

hey zos

WillhelmBlack · April 2016

zyk wrote: »

We're being blown off. I try to avoid saying never, but at least up until now, ZOS has been unwilling to invest in finishing Cyrodiil. It is my opinion that the decision was made to put Cyrodiil on "life support" during the spring/summer of 2014. Whatever the case may be, ZOS leadership has determined the best course of action is a kind of whitewash to limit bad PR by not validating our concerns with honest responses.

It should be apparent to all by now that ESO launched before it was ready. It was not even feature complete. Since launch, ZOS has been focused on finishing the PVE side of the game. ZOS has also shifted lanes based on how the market has changed. When development began, this was a game being made for MMO enthusiasts. It is now primarily a game for the mainstream fans of Skyrim.

Now that the PVE side has found its stride, will ZOS now finish Cyrodiil? It's impossible for us to say. I tend to think the ultimate solution to PVP in ESO will be instanced PVP and Cyrodiil will never work as advertised.

I'm getting more worried that ESO is replacing the ES series by the day. You're right, when this game was revealed they emphasised too much it was an MMO for ES fans, nowadays it's heading more towards single player RPG. They even called it something similar to that in a recent interview.

themdogesbite · April 2016

HAAHAHAHAHHAAHHAAHHAHAAHHAAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHHAHAHAHHAHAH

imredneckson · April 2016

Lord-Stien wrote: »

So...... what happend to our monthly pvp updates and info..

It used to be great that we would get updates from the Dev's and such ....

Last one was in June ?

Come on

@ZOS_GinaBruno we miss your updates..
@ZOS_BrianWheeler we miss you too, swing by .. say hello ... have some skooma....

Super salt out

I stopped listening to the ZOS team a while back the only thing I look for now is action and well there hasn't been any just empty words and promises.

strikeback1247 · April 2016

They are hidden in the templar houses. Need to slay more temps!

Ghostbane · April 2016

I'll deliver monthly pvp updates via the medium of dance.

booksmcread · April 2016

Ghostbane wrote: »

I'll deliver monthly pvp updates via the medium of dance.

Zyle · April 2016

ZOS be like:

cdobratz · April 2016

Lol in CU they were supposed to give an update about the upcoming beta, within an hour they announced they would be talking about siege warfare and the beta update would be postponed to next week. 1 hour of communication from CU is more communication than ZOS this week including wheeler's post.

Izanagi.Xiiib16_ESO · April 2016

actually they gave the beta update and then talked about siege because beta was being delayed for a bit due to staff illness.
then they stayed and did an open Q&A for about 1h after. Considering last week they did about 12h of Q&A and Zos can manage about 15m every 2 weeks of soft questions with no answers... Kinda shows a problem

Jules · April 2016

If a person slow falls and no one is there to see them, is it still a bug?

HoloYoitsu · April 2016

Jules wrote: »

If a person slow falls and no one is there to see them, is it still a bug?

If no one is there = lonely

If someone is there = ERP

kevlarto_ESO · April 2016

I have played mmo's for a very long time and nothing good ever comes out of a long period of silence, maybe they are working on that big patch they mentioned the last ESO live, or maybe there is about to be big changes coming. Like the game going totally f2p or something along those lines, no one knows until they drop the bomb on us, until then it is all speculation.

LegendaryChef · April 2016

Can someone link a tumbleweed pic plz

themdogesbite · April 2016

jeevin · April 2016

wa wai wait /lurk

Lord-Stien · April 2016

Yuke wrote: »

Lord-Stien wrote: »

True... i get Daily updates from star citizen.. and it in alpha

Hey, thats not fair, SC is a 100 mio dollar project and has the resources for daily communication with their backers!! ... ZoS on the other hand ... oh ... wait... nevermind.

that made me LOL

RebornV3x · April 2016

Ha ha ha this assumes ZOS even cares about pvp it's almost as if they want people to leave pvp and just buy and play the new PVE related DLCs o wait maybe I'm on to something here make PVP so bad that the only way to enjoy the game is PVE eventually youll run out of content and want to buy the DLC it's ZOS master plan.

AndyTGD · April 2016

tinythinker wrote: »

ZOS seems to like the silence/secrecy --> sudden reveal "**HYPE**!!" model for even remotely significant changes to cover their rears in case something isn't ready or doesn't pan out and also to be able to make the most out of even medium size changes.

Put those together and presto, you get the way things are. I can understand why devs might favor the cautious approach, though I wouldn't mind more of even the boring, somewhat repetitive info. But the corporate culture at ZOS is what it is. Hopefully we'll get a pleasant surprise reveal of some new assets they've been working on in the near future.

Is there anything that ZOS's corporate culture hasn't influenced negatively in ESO? In the end this isn't primarily about the player-base, its simply about the shareholders. All we're getting now is just occasional PR and spin updates from the marketing department, trying to attract players back with ES nostalgia (IC, Wrothgar, Thieves/Dark Brotherhood anyone?) and million dollar cash prizes. I wish they would just stop with the desperate corporate chicanery and just be transparent with their customers. PVP is almost unbearable right now. Besides the balancing issues its just riddled with huge bugs like weapons freezing/animation swapping, all sound stopping in mid-battle, siege weapons becoming literally unusable etc. I really, really want to like this game, but the way its being handled by Zenimax is simply sucking the enjoyment out of it. And the worst part is that there doesn't appear to be any recognition on the part of ZOS that anything is horribly, horribly wrong.