Is it intended that you can cloak meteors?

Bfish22090 · April 2016

In this patch, ZOS you made meteor unreflectable, purifyable and purgable
however, you can still cloak the meteor by hitting the cloak button right before it lands.
Is this intended or is it a broken mechanic?

I would like an official response please?
@ZOS_GinaBruno

Jaronking · April 2016

Well if you don't cloak it the Dot will break your cloak so Am fine with it as is.

mike.eso · April 2016

Bfish22090 wrote: »

In this patch, ZOS you made meteor unreflectable, purifyable and purgable
however, you can still cloak the meteor by hitting the cloak button right before it lands.
Is this intended or is it a broken mechanic?

I would like an official response please?
@ZOS_GinaBruno

@ZOS_Mikmak wrote: Yes.

Bfish22090 · April 2016

Mikmak wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

In this patch, ZOS you made meteor unreflectable, purifyable and purgable
however, you can still cloak the meteor by hitting the cloak button right before it lands.
Is this intended or is it a broken mechanic?

I would like an official response please?
@ZOS_GinaBruno

@ZOS_Mikmak wrote: Yes.

seems legit.
i beleive it

WillhelmBlack · April 2016

First thing I said in PTS. "Oh I cant purify **** but NB, oh they can Cloak everything". Hence the reroll when DB comes.

LorDrek · April 2016

This is crap ZOS logic.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · April 2016

It's a targeted AoE what happens when you can't trace the target it misses.

Pallio · April 2016

Another reason everyone is playing mag blade now, thanks to the cake. I may retire the others and see how many AP the VD/Proxy bomber can really get now.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · April 2016

Pallio wrote: »

Another reason everyone is playing mag blade now, thanks to the cake. I may retire the others and see how many AP the VD/Proxy bomber can really get now.

I play 8 Nightblades from beta till the update when everyone was a Nightblade no trolling any old member of Pride of The Pact can vouch for that. After making a character for the other three classes they are OP even with glass canon builds. I can tell in five seconds the Real Nightblades and the FOTM babies.

Every build works in PvE but when people that are not used to the Nightblade's short comings in PvP try Ganking are doing some Shadow voodoo get dropped on four seconds.

ThatNeonZebraAgain · April 2016

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Pallio wrote: »

Another reason everyone is playing mag blade now, thanks to the cake. I may retire the others and see how many AP the VD/Proxy bomber can really get now.

I play 8 Nightblades from beta till the update when everyone was a Nightblade no trolling any old member of Pride of The Pact can vouch for that. After making a character for the other three classes they are OP even with glass canon builds. I can tell in five seconds the Real Nightblades and the FOTM babies.

Every build works in PvE but when people that are not used to the Nightblade's short comings in PvP try Ganking are doing some Shadow voodoo get dropped on four seconds.

Agreed. NBs have always been an extremely popular class since launch, even when most of their class skills were broken for nearly the first year of the game.

Forestd16b14_ESO · April 2016

Seriously ZOS make meteor reflectable again it was a stupid idea and use a stupid excuse for the change.

"We want Meteor to be on par as the rest of the other ultimates in the game."

Refuse2GrowUp · April 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

Well if you don't cloak it the Dot will break your cloak so Am fine with it as is.

@Jaronking Not the case. Cloak will now allow you to cloak thru a DoT and will nullify DoT dmg while you are cloaked; DoTs will no longer pull you out of cloak (bugs aside). That is an invalid argument for being able to avoid a meteor. If you are visible and can be targeted, there is no reason the meteor should not hit you. You can simply cloak after impact to nullify the DoT.

I play all classes, too include NBs, and I have to agree it is pretty lame we can cloak to avoid an ultimate like meteor.

Kammakazi · April 2016

Well let's see.

It's a single target ability that needs sight of the target to actually be able to hit and make contact.

Nightblades can disappear.

You can't hit what you can't see.

Jaronking · April 2016

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Well if you don't cloak it the Dot will break your cloak so Am fine with it as is.

@Jaronking Not the case. Cloak will now allow you to cloak thru a DoT and will nullify DoT dmg while you are cloaked; DoTs will no longer pull you out of cloak (bugs aside). That is an invalid argument for being able to avoid a meteor. If you are visible and can be targeted, there is no reason the meteor should not hit you. You can simply cloak after impact to nullify the DoT.

I play all classes, too include NBs, and I have to agree it is pretty lame we can cloak to avoid an ultimate like meteor.

While you are correct with just about every Dot and guard breaking my cloak I see no reason why this is a big deal.If you hit a NB with it and they dot cloak and instead Block it they won't be able to cloak and suppress the DMG anyway.You also have to take into account that when you cloak your no longer visible so of course it will miss.As I mentioned am fine with it like this until they fix the bug with Dots breaking cloak.If they fix cloak then this should no longer being intended.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · April 2016

Refuse2GrowUp wrote: »

Jaronking wrote: »

Well if you don't cloak it the Dot will break your cloak so Am fine with it as is.

@Jaronking Not the case. Cloak will now allow you to cloak thru a DoT and will nullify DoT dmg while you are cloaked; DoTs will no longer pull you out of cloak (bugs aside). That is an invalid argument for being able to avoid a meteor. If you are visible and can be targeted, there is no reason the meteor should not hit you. You can simply cloak after impact to nullify the DoT.

I play all classes, too include NBs, and I have to agree it is pretty lame we can cloak to avoid an ultimate like meteor.

You can't Cloak Meteor's DoT it's a ground DoT and everyone can counter it don't roll hold block get hit take three steps in any one direction. That damage is weak if you block and no CC.

GreenSoup2HoT · April 2016

What i don't understand, is meteor not an aoe?

I guess the reason why you can cloak it is because it needs to track you.

Sure cloaking the DOT makes sence but not really the first impact.

I dunno. I'd like to hear what Zos says.

Samadhi · April 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

What i don't understand, is meteor not an aoe?

I guess the reason why you can cloak it is because it needs to track you.

Sure cloaking the DOT makes sence but not really the first impact.

I dunno. I'd like to hear what Zos says.

Player-targeted projectile AoE.
Another example would be Sorcerer's Crystal Blast.
Casts on a single target, travels as projectile, explodes on contact.

Sheey · April 2016

The only reason why nightblades can cloak meteor but dks can't reflect it - needs to burn stamina tho blocking - is, that zenimax leader is playing nightblade on northamerican server nothing else. Nightblade is a cheatclass, in no other game the enemy is able to escape instantly out of combat when his health is dropping.

We learn Nightblade = Cheat = Players they can't face you, players they need to cover and hide to fight against someone.

Watch Blobs on eu server thats how a nightblade is designed, cloaking only 1 time in 20sec for like 3 seconds. But the most guys hear going on 1 shot builds and cloak away 20000000meters and try it again...

L2P

Bfish22090 · April 2016

@ZOS_BrianWheeler
@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
@Wrobel
@ZOS_KaiSchober
response please

LiquidSchwartz · April 2016

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Seriously ZOS make meteor reflectable again it was a stupid idea and use a stupid excuse for the change.

"We want Meteor to be on par as the rest of the other ultimates in the game."

Except for physical dmg ultimates those can be on par with heavy attacks

willymchilybily · April 2016

Haven't been on my night blade since update. Can I also now cloak det and curse? As they are technically dots. So shouldn't take damage or be pulled out of stealth by them?

As for meteorite it should function the same way. Any thing with such an obvious count in timer gives you time to block a lot of the damage, break free and get safe. That's mechanic enough to mitigate the meteorite in my opinion

It's up to the aggressor to ensure that doesn't happen with good use of cc and build up to the burst, good enjoyable cat and mouse play to get the kill.

mb10 · April 2016

You cant cloak meteors I tried it today and didn't work.

Just close this thread because its wrong information.

Bfish22090 · April 2016

mb10 wrote: »

You cant cloak meteors I tried it today and didn't work.

Just close this thread because its wrong information.

you are clearly misinformed, its very easy to do youre just doing it wrong

AddictionX · April 2016

Kammakazi wrote: »

Well let's see.

It's a single target ability that needs sight of the target to actually be able to hit and make contact.

Nightblades can disappear.

You can't hit what you can't see.

Yes you can. Especially when the dude is right in-front of me... it would make sense if it where some ninja thing where it would disappear into another point like behind a tree but if its right in front of you thats stupid.

olsborg · April 2016

You can cloak away most if not all projectiles except dark flare.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO · April 2016

LiquidSchwartz wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

Seriously ZOS make meteor reflectable again it was a stupid idea and use a stupid excuse for the change.

"We want Meteor to be on par as the rest of the other ultimates in the game."

Except for physical dmg ultimates those can be on par with heavy attacks

There is exactly one physical dmg ultimate, and it's much better than a heavy attack

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · April 2016

Sheey wrote: »

The only reason why nightblades can cloak meteor but dks can't reflect it - needs to burn stamina tho blocking - is, that zenimax leader is playing nightblade on northamerican server nothing else. Nightblade is a cheatclass, in no other game the enemy is able to escape instantly out of combat when his health is dropping.

We learn Nightblade = Cheat = Players they can't face you, players they need to cover and hide to fight against someone.

Watch Blobs on eu server thats how a nightblade is designed, cloaking only 1 time in 20sec for like 3 seconds. But the most guys hear going on 1 shot builds and cloak away 20000000meters and try it again...

L2P

Nightblades are designed to be stealthy Assassins. Are you also mad when Templars Heal and Tank with the best heal in the game more spell damage more healing, same rage for them? How about when a Sorcerer Streaks while inside the best shield in the game hitting you with delayed burst that you just can use a HoT to get though. Let use not forget those super cheat Dragon Knights that have the best ranged and Melee damage defenses hands down.

Ohh and do you Healing award with 3k+ damage and CP into buffing healing cause you're pretty hard to kill 1v1 if you can do my Sorcerer Mage can bolt from anything Bolt twice lay down Mines wait Bolt roll Magicka pot Bolt, Defensive Rune, Bolt, Bolt Bolt.

Nightblades using Nightblade powers to win is how we play maybe it's your turn to L2P.
P.S. Lets review Dark Cloak can't be targeted, 3% more health from Shadow Passives, 8% less damage for five seconds new effect, 5120 Shadow Barrier and let's you stun with Veiled Strike (Concealed Weapons and Surpise Attack) yea using it only once every 20 seconds best use of your main defense.

AddictionX · April 2016

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Sheey wrote: »

The only reason why nightblades can cloak meteor but dks can't reflect it - needs to burn stamina tho blocking - is, that zenimax leader is playing nightblade on northamerican server nothing else. Nightblade is a cheatclass, in no other game the enemy is able to escape instantly out of combat when his health is dropping.

We learn Nightblade = Cheat = Players they can't face you, players they need to cover and hide to fight against someone.

Watch Blobs on eu server thats how a nightblade is designed, cloaking only 1 time in 20sec for like 3 seconds. But the most guys hear going on 1 shot builds and cloak away 20000000meters and try it again...

L2P

Nightblades are designed to be stealthy Assassins. Are you also mad when Templars Heal and Tank with the best heal in the game more spell damage more healing, same rage for them? How about when a Sorcerer Streaks while inside the best shield in the game hitting you with delayed burst that you just can use a HoT to get though. Let use not forget those super cheat Dragon Knights that have the best ranged and Melee damage defenses hands down.

Ohh and do you Healing award with 3k+ damage and CP into buffing healing cause you're pretty hard to kill 1v1 if you can do my Sorcerer Mage can bolt from anything Bolt twice lay down Mines wait Bolt roll Magicka pot Bolt, Defensive Rune, Bolt, Bolt Bolt.

Nightblades using Nightblade powers to win is how we play maybe it's your turn to L2P.
P.S. Lets review Dark Cloak can't be targeted, 3% more health from Shadow Passives, 8% less damage for five seconds new effect, 5120 Shadow Barrier and let's you stun with Veiled Strike (Concealed Weapons and Surpise Attack) yea using it only once every 20 seconds best use of your main defense.

Thats alot of buffs from a few abilities. Holy cow.

Devilhand · April 2016

mb10 wrote: »

You cant cloak meteors I tried it today and didn't work.

Just close this thread because its wrong information.

Your wrong...

check minute 4:25 of this video...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QHpzUyHRO4

NB CAN cloak Meteor.

Francescolg · April 2016

That is one of the reasons they gave stealth to everybody in ESO.. Imo, I would appreciate an MMO without a stealther class!

In World of Warcraft we had a video (first 1-2y. after release) where a stealther demonstrated how he killed other players even without wearing any armor, just by using the skills from stealth he did OP damage. That was -in some way- very unbalanced!
In Daoc (also in the beginning) we had also one stealther class (Midgard) with the same strenghts...

Stealthers are very often (!) too strong in MMOs. So, if you played many MMOs, you can say that picking either a Sorcerer or a Stealther at the beginning of the game was a good decision and gave you huge advantages, as these two classes are often OP. (Firemage in Warhammer online: 100% crit chance and 300% more crit damage for a LOOONG time, enemies dropped like flies and, with a healer, it was god-mode..).

Such errors often taken months, in the worst case years, for the game developers to admit they did something wrong and to patch it..

Bfish22090 · April 2016

i would just like a repsonse to know if its intended or not