PSA: Jubilee Cake DOES NOT stack with other XP bonuses.

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

nimander99 wrote: »

185% EXP buff is exactly what I am currently getting... this is crazy pills. How am I the only person on server this is working for? I will take screen shots tonight and post though it will take a bit I have to wait for buffs to wear off. And if someone could pm instructions on how to link an image into forums I'd appreciate it.

It shows on all of our character screens but we aren't getting more than 100% of the base regardless.
Are u certain ur getting more or so u just see those on your character screen as we all do

nimander99 · April 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

185% EXP buff is exactly what I am currently getting... this is crazy pills. How am I the only person on server this is working for? I will take screen shots tonight and post though it will take a bit I have to wait for buffs to wear off. And if someone could pm instructions on how to link an image into forums I'd appreciate it.

It shows on all of our character screens but we aren't getting more than 100% of the base regardless.
Are u certain ur getting more or so u just see those on your character screen as we all do

Yes I just took screen shots with the cake active with cs scroll and w/o the cake active, how to I post them?

nimander99 · April 2016

Without Cake

With Cake

As you can see the Crowns Store scroll is active in both images and I am Enlightened. I fought a the same dwarven sphere in the same spot both times.

Edit: Its kinda hard to see numbers but they are above image 3972 and below image 4968.

@MaxwellCrystal @NewBlacksmurf

IcyDeadPeople · April 2016

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

How XP Buff Stacking Works in ESO
In ESO, all XP buffs stack with each other, with the exception of Psijic Ambrosia and the Crown Experience Scroll. Not counting the Jubilee Cake, these are the different types of XP buffs currently in the game.
Alliance War Keep buff – 5% XP buff (applies only to monster and player-character kills)

Crown Experience Scroll – 50% XP buff (does not stack with Psijic Ambrosia)

ESO Plus – 10% XP buff

Grouping buff – 10% XP buff

Psijic Ambrosia – 50% XP buff (does not stack with Crown Experience Scroll)

Rings of Mara buff – 10% XP buff

Exploration Trait XP buff – Varies depending on how many armor pieces have the Trait (applies only to exploration XP)

It is currently possible to stack XP buffs for a total possible increase of 85% for most types of content. There is normally a cap in place that prevents any event (a quest completion, a monster kill, etc.) from granting more than 10% of your total level value. For the anniversary event, that cap was raised from 10% to 30%.

Wow, that's great news, thanks for extending this event!

The Alliance War Keep buff is not always 5%, but a range, depending on how many keeps your faction controls, starting from 5% all the way up to 15% if your faction controls all home keeps plus nine enemy keeps.

Home Keep Bonus 5%
Enemy Keep Bonus I, II 7%
Enemy Keep Bonus III, IV 9%
Enemy Keep Bonus V, VI 11%
Enemy Keep Bonus VII, VIII 13%
Enemy Keep Bonus IX 15%

Just to confirm, this is not limited to the 5% Home Keep Bonus, correct? So for example, if your faction controls 9 enemy keeps and you have Enemy Keep Bonus IX of 15% it will still stack with the Jubilee buff for total of 195%, is that right?

K4RMA · April 2016

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone!

We have an update for you on this issue. Please see our post, here. (Also quoted below.)

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone,

When we pushed the anniversary event live last night, we discovered that the Jubilee Cake XP buff stacking was not working as we intended. We are currently testing a fix that, once implemented, will allow for the intended XP buff stacking so you can reach a total possible increase of 185%. We plan to roll out this fix tomorrow (4/5). We’ll provide the exact time tomorrow, and notify everyone when the hotfix is complete.

We will also be extending the ESO anniversary event by two days, so it will now end on Tuesday, April 12th at 8PM EDT.

In this post, you’ll find a brief explanation of how XP buff stacking works in ESO, how it is supposed to be working with the Jubilee Cake XP buff versus what is actually happening in-game right now, and what we’re doing to fix the current issue.

How XP Buff Stacking Works in ESO
In ESO, all XP buffs stack with each other, with the exception of Psijic Ambrosia and the Crown Experience Scroll. Not counting the Jubilee Cake, these are the different types of XP buffs currently in the game.
Alliance War Keep buff – 5% XP buff (applies only to monster and player-character kills)

Crown Experience Scroll – 50% XP buff (does not stack with Psijic Ambrosia)

ESO Plus – 10% XP buff

Grouping buff – 10% XP buff

Psijic Ambrosia – 50% XP buff (does not stack with Crown Experience Scroll)

Rings of Mara buff – 10% XP buff

Exploration Trait XP buff – Varies depending on how many armor pieces have the Trait (applies only to exploration XP)

It is currently possible to stack XP buffs for a total possible increase of 85% for most types of content. There is normally a cap in place that prevents any event (a quest completion, a monster kill, etc.) from granting more than 10% of your total level value. For the anniversary event, that cap was raised from 10% to 30%.

How the Jubilee Cake XP Buff Works
The Jubilee Cake buff for the ESO anniversary event should be stacking with the following XP buffs:
Alliance War Keep buff

Crown Experience Scroll OR Psijic Ambrosia

ESO Plus

Grouping buff

Rings of Mara buff

Exploration Trait XP buff

With the Jubilee Cake buff, you should be getting an additional 100% plus the total possible 85% detailed above, for a grand total of 185%* as the highest possible XP buff increase during the anniversary event. That is not currently happening, though, and the percentage is capping out at 100%. We’re looking into why, as that is not intended.

*Please note: The Alliance War Keep XP buff applies only to monster and player-character kills, and the Exploration Trait XP buff applies only to exploration XP

As part of this hotfix, we will also be changing the Jubilee Cake buff so that it is not removed upon player-character death—this will make it a bit more useful in Cyrodiil and Imperial City.

Thank you all for your patience and dedication—now let’s eat some cake!

nice of you guys to extend it for us

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

nimander99 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

185% EXP buff is exactly what I am currently getting... this is crazy pills. How am I the only person on server this is working for? I will take screen shots tonight and post though it will take a bit I have to wait for buffs to wear off. And if someone could pm instructions on how to link an image into forums I'd appreciate it.

It shows on all of our character screens but we aren't getting more than 100% of the base regardless.
Are u certain ur getting more or so u just see those on your character screen as we all do

Yes I just took screen shots with the cake active with cs scroll and w/o the cake active, how to I post them?

So I see it on the add-on but what I'm asking is are you actually getting all those Bonuses or is it just showing us as if you are?
I don't play on PC anymore other than PTS so I'm just asking honestly. Maybe you're doing something we should try as well

nimander99 · April 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

185% EXP buff is exactly what I am currently getting... this is crazy pills. How am I the only person on server this is working for? I will take screen shots tonight and post though it will take a bit I have to wait for buffs to wear off. And if someone could pm instructions on how to link an image into forums I'd appreciate it.

It shows on all of our character screens but we aren't getting more than 100% of the base regardless.
Are u certain ur getting more or so u just see those on your character screen as we all do

Yes I just took screen shots with the cake active with cs scroll and w/o the cake active, how to I post them?

So I see it on the add-on but what I'm asking is are you actually getting all those Bonuses or is it just showing us as if you are?
I don't play on PC anymore other than PTS so I'm just asking honestly. Maybe you're doing something we should try as well

Yes my cexp is increasing accordingly with the numbers you are seeing, plus the official ESO exp tracker to the right is even showing a regular exp increase.

I am on NA PC though and Enlightened, other than that I am just remembering to reapply the buff after I die, at first i was confused because of it not persisting through death but other than that it has been working perfectly since the event started.

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

nimander99 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

nimander99 wrote: »

185% EXP buff is exactly what I am currently getting... this is crazy pills. How am I the only person on server this is working for? I will take screen shots tonight and post though it will take a bit I have to wait for buffs to wear off. And if someone could pm instructions on how to link an image into forums I'd appreciate it.

It shows on all of our character screens but we aren't getting more than 100% of the base regardless.
Are u certain ur getting more or so u just see those on your character screen as we all do

Yes I just took screen shots with the cake active with cs scroll and w/o the cake active, how to I post them?

So I see it on the add-on but what I'm asking is are you actually getting all those Bonuses or is it just showing us as if you are?
I don't play on PC anymore other than PTS so I'm just asking honestly. Maybe you're doing something we should try as well

Yes my cexp is increasing accordingly with the numbers you are seeing, plus the official ESO exp tracker to the right is even showing a regular exp increase.

So what is the actual base exp amount -
What is the total % bonus -
What is the bonus exp amount -

Just really asking cause it would be telling if ur game is actually working correctly so that this ZOS patch comes and it may not fix what it's suppose to after all. That's why I keep asking u details.

Sorry if it's annoying.

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

nimander99 wrote: »

Without Cake

With Cake

As you can see the Crowns Store scroll is active in both images and I am Enlightened. I fought a the same dwarven sphere in the same spot both times.

Edit: Its kinda hard to see numbers but they are above image 3972 and below image 4968.

@MaxwellCrystal @NewBlacksmurf

My point is that the gold coin on the screen should actually show 4968 and not 1242. I don't believe you're getting the exp u think u are. I do believe your add-ins are calculating what the character screen bonuses should be.

Make sense?

Edit:
Maybe I'm using the wrong numbers but 1242 isn't 100% more of 993.
Let's say the base is 900....then the total would be 1800 shown on the gold coin and not 1200 in your example

ComboBreaker88 · April 2016

How XP Buff Stacking Works in ESO
In ESO, all XP buffs stack with each other, with the exception of Psijic Ambrosia and the Crown Experience Scroll. Not counting the Jubilee Cake, these are the different types of XP buffs currently in the game.

Alliance War Keep buff – 5% XP buff (applies only to monster and player-character kills)
Crown Experience Scroll – 50% XP buff (does not stack with Psijic Ambrosia)
ESO Plus – 10% XP buff
Grouping buff – 10% XP buff
Psijic Ambrosia – 50% XP buff (does not stack with Crown Experience Scroll)
Rings of Mara buff – 10% XP buff
Exploration Trait XP buff – Varies depending on how many armor pieces have the Trait (applies only to exploration XP)

It is currently possible to stack XP buffs for a total possible increase of 85% for most types of content. There is normally a cap in place that prevents any event (a quest completion, a monster kill, etc.) from granting more than 10% of your total level value. For the anniversary event, that cap was raised from 10% to 30%.
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When the cake was announced it was stated that ALL xp bonuses would sack. It was even asked if xp scrolls and xp potions would stack specifically. To which you replied, Yes. So why has this been changed a 50%drop in the xp we were promised is huge.

FilteredRiddle · April 2016

Seraseth wrote: »

Glad it's being fixed. On a semi related note though...

I don't know why they attached the buff to the cake in the first place though. After the event the cake is staying as a memento but the xp is going away, so why didn't they just make the cake a plain ordinary memento in the first place, and just do a server wide xp buff, like every other mmo I've seen that has double xp weekends etc.

Would have avoided losing buff on death, having to reapply every 2hrs, and would have worked in Cyrodiil.

Plus if the xp was automatic and the cake was just the memento, probably less of a rush on day one to get it, that caused the crown store to crash and massive lag and latency in the cities.

Just yes.

DenniMyuu · April 2016

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/258018/eso-anniversary-event-xp-buff-stacking#latest

Gargath · April 2016

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Hi everyone!

We have an update for you on this issue. Please see our post, here.

Will the additional XP items we used during the "malfunction time" be returned to player's characters, or they are lost without compensation?

Vezuls · April 2016

nimander99 wrote: »

Without Cake

With Cake

As you can see the Crowns Store scroll is active in both images and I am Enlightened. I fought a the same dwarven sphere in the same spot both times.

Edit: Its kinda hard to see numbers but they are above image 3972 and below image 4968.

@MaxwellCrystal @NewBlacksmurf

It is not working, actually. 3972 to 4968 is NOT 100% extra exp. We can deduce that the base exp is actually around 2400. 50% of the is 1200 add that and you get 3600 which is around 3972.

The cake doubls your exp, so 2400 x 2 = 4800. So only your cake is working.

Vilestride · April 2016

can we make it edible in cyrodil please....not only due to the fact the best grind are there and I dont want to have to leave and re-enter every time I die, but even the simple fact I may want to be receiving 100% more XP while I simple PvP....like anyone in PvE can enjoy.

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2016

Don't blame ZOS. It's Sheogorath. He wanted cheesecake instead of cake. Forged the recipe.

MacCait · April 2016

Bugged or not... I LOVE cake

Enodoc · April 2016

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom

Can you please answer this question.

Will the cake exp also stack with public dungeons 100% EXP that is given within public dungeons. I did not see this in the list and I just wanted to make sure this wasn't left out. If so technically the EXP cap will need to hit 250% as a max for those in public dungeons using ambrosia/scrolls.

@MaxwellCrystal I assume that the double XP in public dungeons is due to a change in the Base XP value, not a percentage modifier, so it will not affect XP boosters as they will be acting on the Base XP.

Aerius_Sygale · April 2016

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

One thing that would really help us expedite our checks is if you could pass along your character name and platform/megaserver (feel free to PM if you don't want to post it publicly) if you feel like the cake is not stacking properly. Thanks in advance for your help.

@ZOS_GinaBruno So basically, if we feel like the cake is a lie. XD No harm meant, I just had to make the joke.

ADarklore · April 2016

Hopefully we'll get an announcement soon about when this stacking hotfix will go to servers. Hopefully it is something they can hotfix and won't require an actual 'patch'.

Phinix1 · April 2016

nimander99 wrote: »

Without Cake

With Cake

As you can see the Crowns Store scroll is active in both images and I am Enlightened. I fought a the same dwarven sphere in the same spot both times.

Edit: Its kinda hard to see numbers but they are above image 3972 and below image 4968.

@MaxwellCrystal @NewBlacksmurf

Enlightenment is definitely throwing this off a bit. However, assuming that 3972 is the base XP value plus 50% in your first screenshot with only the scroll active, we can calculate the base XP for that mob with no XP buff would be 2648.

With that we can then calculate what percent increase 4968 would be. It SHOULD be 150% (100% from cake, and the 50% scroll), however if you do the math, it actually comes to 87.61% which is not even the full 100% of just the cake by itself.

Like I said, there are mitigating circumstances here. You are Enlightened. There is no good data as to how that factors in to the calculation of the numbers displayed by the in-game XP "coin."

This is likely in turn affecting the calculation of the base value with no XP, and if we knew the proper equation for the Enlightenment bonus at your CP level we would most likely find that the actual value you are receiving from the scroll plus the cake is a flat 100% capped xp bonus, like everyone else.

EDIT: Updated OP with info from ZOS on the coming fix.

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Enodoc · April 2016

Phinix1 wrote: »

Like I said, there are mitigating circumstances here. You are Enlightened. There is no good data as to how that factors in to the calculation of the numbers displayed by the in-game XP "coin."

It doesn't affect it at all. The in-game XP counter is showing XP earned after bonuses. Enlightenment happens after that to determine CP progress, based on an exact ratio of 1:4 (993 XP earned gives 3972 XP towards CPs).

Asherons_Call · April 2016

Ok.... So.... No one on the development side tested this before putting it live? It would literally take 30 seconds to test and realize that it doesn't stack with crown scrolls or ambrosia.. Then they could have saved face when they announced the details. "Jubilee cake is a 2 hour repeatable buff that you can use all week! It gives a 100% XP boost but does not stack with other XP boosters"

Methadone_Man · April 2016

The servers are back up from their downtime maintenance. I just tested it and the experience Scrolls still do NOT stack with the cake bonus.

Schnurrer · April 2016

Great - i wasted 2x Psychic Potions until i noticed it -.- guess there is no regress (since it wasnt a scroll from the shop

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MaxwellC · April 2016

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

So ZOS when is this hot fix coming because just tested and the EXP is still capped at 100%

Elsonso · April 2016

nimander99 wrote: »

Without Cake

With Cake

As you can see the Crowns Store scroll is active in both images and I am Enlightened. I fought a the same dwarven sphere in the same spot both times.

Edit: Its kinda hard to see numbers but they are above image 3972 and below image 4968.

@MaxwellCrystal @NewBlacksmurf

A lot of numbers were flying around, but this was not really very hard to figure out.

FIRST... Ignore enlightenment and CXP. In this case, the CXP is just going to be 4x whatever the XP awarded is. It is the XP award that is currently bugged and will be fixed today.

The mob is worth 621 XP.

In the first picture, the player is awarded 993 XP. This is 621 XP + 62 XP (ESO Plus) + 310 XP (Scroll) for 993 XP total.
In the second picture, the player is award 1242 XP. This is 621 XP + 621 XP (Cake) for a 1242 XP total. This is "correct" as the game is currently configured.

Once fixed, the player will be awarded 1614 XP. This is 621 XP + 621 XP (Cake) + 62 XP (ESO Plus) + 310 XP (Scroll) for 1614 XP.

If you want to know enlightened Champion Point XP, just take the final XP number times 4.

Ch4mpTW · April 2016

... Will this hotfix be applied as well for console users, or n'ah? Because if it's not, I just... I just don't know man. I'm just tired of receiving the short end of the stick, for playing on console AND being a PVP'er...

Phinix1 · April 2016

@lordrichter

Thanks for that. It was the ESO Plus I didn't factor in. Basically though my point was that he is capped at 100% like everyone else at present.