I run, or at least used to run my Templar, and it was fine. Gather 500-1000 stones deposit and repeat. There's not a whole lot that is worth buying atm, so I don't worry about it. More often than not I farm trophies or Hajeiko and you don't lose those.

I would rather only have a 50% loss, that way you leave with something. 80% might as well be 100% as far as I'm concerned. But it doesn't overly bother me, since the stones are fairly worthless.

Rumor has it that this will change soonish. New things to buy coming up!

Its a ghost town cause it's not just simply pop in and play like other zones. You gotta work to get there and work to get out...

On Xbox NA server, the sewers are pretty quite these days. Still see gankers roaming and base camping. Occasionally you find a group near molag in the center but for the most it's pretty quite. Everyone seems to be in Arena fighting for some unknown reason?
I usually farm and bank about 1000-1500 stones then it seems like the gank squads show up. So I leave or stick around a mess with them. If they don't get stones off you they usually move on.

You really need to get over it. It has been in game for months. I have a magic Templar. I have close to 100 k stones and most of them from other players. Risk vs rewards. If someone kicks the crap out of someone they don't leave 20 percent of thier money. That said, you can run to the mobs to die and only lose 10 percent or you can use inviso plus speed pots and rapid maneuvers like I do on my magic Templar and shuffle too. When in IC.

lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Actually the fact that dieing has a negative effect is one of the few good things about IC. You only would have to add more usefull stuff to buy with tel var stones, remove (most of) those annoying npcs and add some pvp ocjectives and it could be a nice area.

Kind of agree. I've been thinking perhaps it should be like that with AP in Cyrodiil as well. Death should come at a cost. Surviving is underrated. Perhaps a delay between the action and receiving the reward would be better than having to "return to base", as it is in IC. If you die in the interval, you get nothing.

Bank often. When you have a decent amount, let one of mobs kill you. You will only lose a small amount and get ported back to your safe zone. Not a big deal.

Disagree completely

- plays magic templar

OP does not know how to farm Tel-Var stones. Most of IC is empty. It's rare to run into a ganker. Just run a simple route, kill a portal and a boss, clear some mobs, and you should have around 1k stones. Die to a mob, respawn at base, deposit stones, repeat.

I agree that the Telvar stones are useless, so that is why I don't go to IC. However, monster teeth and bloody claws are worth it.

Putting up a post decrying an entire area simply because you don't like it and find it difficult to play is simply selfish. I assumed trying to take away someone else's toy because you couldn't or wouldn't play with it to spoil the other's fun was something we all gave up when we became adults. Apparently I was wrong!

The mechanic where you lose your Tel Var stones was a brilliant move on the part of the developers in my opinion. It adds a little something to the fight. I still remember that feeling of satisfaction the first time I managed to successfully throw myself onto a NPC when my death was inevitable so that they got my TV stones instead of the other player. My friend and I chuckled about that victory for a long time. I have heaps more anecdotes that give me fond memories and they are pretty evenly spread between times when I died and those when I won the fight. Class plays no part in whether or not you die. I have a magika Templar friend who has been running IC regularly solo with great success since he was level 15 and had barely any skills or passives.

One of the reasons I believe people do not enjoy PvP is their attitude towards it. It is certainly not for all personality types. You will die in PvP areas. This is a given. Event the most elite players will tell you this is so and that they die regularly. It is your response to this death that will dictate your enjoyment of this aspect of the game. The fact that a win is not guaranteed is what makes it so exciting to many people. A win therefore becomes more important because it is something you have achieved, especially in IC where Zergs and uber death armour are not involved so much and individual skill is a factor.

Tel Var stones to me are really just a way of keeping score. If I head home with more than the one hundred I started with, even if it is only 1 or 2 more then I have won for the day. It's not like the stones are important because there really is nothing to buy with them anyway. They are not even a source of revenue anymore because the rare rune are not so rare anymore.
In fact like many people my only criticism about IC is the lack of a use for these stones. I live in hope that Zenimac will heed our pleas and one day put something on the vendors that we would like to purchase. The Hajeiko rune comes to mind ...

Tastes salty in here.

Soresina wrote: »

Putting up a post decrying an entire area simply because you don't like it and find it difficult to play is simply selfish. I assumed trying to take away someone else's toy because you couldn't or wouldn't play with it to spoil the other's fun was something we all gave up when we became adults. Apparently I was wrong!

The mechanic where you lose your Tel Var stones was a brilliant move on the part of the developers in my opinion.

While you are certainly entitled to your opinion, it is only that...your opinion. The OP and others who do not like IC are also entitled to our opinions. There is nothing selfish or childish about your opinion or about ours. They are just simply different points of view.

You were too busy insulting the OP to realize that s/he is not attempting to "take away someone else's toy." Instead, like many, many other people who have commented about TV stones on this forum since IC was released, the OP essentially said that a loss of 80% is too high, but that possibly 50% would be ok.

There are numerous problems with IC, and the 80% loss factor is certainly high up on the list of issues that have made this DLC unsuccessful.

Ic is my favorite dlc. It has never been deserted. Cyrodill pvp = riding a horse 50 miles to fight a Zerg with 999+ ping and 12fps usually with your own Zerg. Very little skill involved. Nb's can solo gank at least even in cyrodill.

Ic has no lag or fps issues and less zergs and more opportunity of small scale lag free pvp. I can also get top sales consistently of a popular trading guild easily from ic loot. That means 600,000 to 1 million gold worth of sales per week. Yes I do wish they would add more to buy with tv stones but buying selling repora is still very profitable as are the trophies. I have been in ic so long now and know my way around that I don't usually bank until I have at least 3k stones and often rack up 5k before banking.

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

You die and you drop almost all of them, I really wanted to enjoy IC, but I gave up on trying to collect the stones.

I am a magika templar and I have no way to escape, as soon as I get ganked I either have to kill or be killed and sooner or later i get killed, specially when I'm fighting a mob and dropping low then i get ganked or when i get zerged.

I cant go back to store them ever 100 I get it would be insanely tedious .

What's the point of this stupid system??? At least drop like half but all???

All I read was "Hey everyone, I suck balls; please nerf everyone else so I can still suck balls" /thread