What's your normal single target dps against a dungeon boss?

Acsvf · April 2016

What do you normally see on your dps meter after completing a dungeon boss? As in in general, not as in with a dps test or any controlled factors, just normally playing, and regardless of the role you're playing.

Marktoneth3 · April 2016

0-3000

I'm a tank

so yeah.

beamy93 · April 2016

Any class with the appropriate gear and rotation should be putting up at least 20k dps pretty regularly in pve now after the cp changes. Haven't seen stam sorc numbers lately, but who plays that in pve?

Megalex1 · April 2016

Remember, ppl telling you their DPS is not entirely accurate, they always say higher than they get

Acsvf · April 2016

0-3000

Megalex1 wrote: »

Remember, ppl telling you their DPS is not entirely accurate, they always say higher than they get

Eh, not always.
Post #2 is a nice counterexample.

Mostly just want some data to use for my *cough* math homework. Not too concerned about other stuff.

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

5001-8000

as in the numbers on the screen...
http://gameclipscontent-d2015.xboxlive.com/0009000000158ccf-e03a5edd-3694-4683-84d2-8f31e392aa5a/GameClip-Original.MP4?sv=2014-02-14&sr=c&sig=gzeGLtShVI/Q40Etabbsfh5Ep0lzcEpdhG2/Bs1ZSrI=&st=2016-04-03T03:34:45Z&se=2016-04-03T04:39:45Z&sp=r&__gda__=1459658385_135a520abcb922c9065318dbab5e067d

Acsvf · April 2016

0-3000

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

as in the numbers on the screen...
http://gameclipscontent-d2015.xboxlive.com/0009000000158ccf-e03a5edd-3694-4683-84d2-8f31e392aa5a/GameClip-Original.MP4?sv=2014-02-14&sr=c&sig=gzeGLtShVI/Q40Etabbsfh5Ep0lzcEpdhG2/Bs1ZSrI=&st=2016-04-03T03:34:45Z&se=2016-04-03T04:39:45Z&sp=r&__gda__=1459658385_135a520abcb922c9065318dbab5e067d

Console players actually attempt to estimate their dps? That's something I learned today.

Mojmir · April 2016

17001-20000

Megalex1 wrote: »

Remember, ppl telling you their DPS is not entirely accurate, they always say higher than they get

why lie on the forums? not like i group outside my guild. lol

Gargath · April 2016

Usually in dungeons I'm rather focused on playing my best than to think about how much dps points does my best attack.
So, honestly, I have no idea and I do not care

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Destruent · April 2016

25001+

a bit hard to decide when playing all 3 roles

But since i'm usually dpsing i chose this.

Megalex1 wrote: »

Remember, ppl telling you their DPS is not entirely accurate, they always say higher than they get

not possible in this poll

Browiseth · April 2016

11001-14000

- Stamina sorc who's main dps ability is flurry
i get by though

Rosveen · April 2016

Embarrassingly low probably. Don't group with me unless you're a fellow casual player who doesn't care about no death speedruns.

failkiwib16_ESO · April 2016

...my dps is somewhere between 2k-34k depending on wether I am playing with bad pugs or a decent group, when I join as DD.

I usually offheal or take over the healing at some bosses, if the healer struggles at pressing the healing button. With ~850 regen I run out of magicka when I heal, and I have to make restoration staff pokes to regain some magicka x_x

In other cases I slot warhorn and 23432 buff skills, because people insist that I do that, despite me being a DD in group ....they're used to me being a healer, so they don't accept not getting buffed in a dungeon when the actual healer is someone else.
<< is pretty annoying, and the healer often gets completely ignored and confused. I usually whisper them and explain that my friends are trying to be jerks, but that they are just brainlagging and are slow at understanding things.

Mojmir · April 2016

17001-20000

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

...my dps is somewhere between 2k-34k depending on wether I am playing with bad pugs or a decent group, when I join as DD.

I usually offheal or take over the healing at some bosses, if the healer struggles at pressing the healing button. With ~850 regen I run out of magicka when I heal, and I have to make restoration staff pokes to regain some magicka x_x

In other cases I slot warhorn and 23432 buff skills, because people insist that I do that, despite me being a DD in group ....they're used to me being a healer, so they don't accept not getting buffed in a dungeon when the actual healer is someone else.
<< is pretty annoying, and the healer often gets completely ignored and confused. I usually whisper them and explain that my friends are trying to be jerks, but that they are just brainlagging and are slow at understanding things.

this is what can make a pug group shine, one level headed person taking charge and it doesnt have to be the tank.

Asmael · April 2016

17001-20000

Really depends on the group. I have about 17-18k single target DPS right now (could optimize setup a bit more and grab a bunch of extra CPs).

20k is the normal Pugs group with the random buffs thrown in.

I don't run often in group cycling warhorn and having a 100% uptime on buffs/debuffs, but when that happens, I hit 28-30k.

DRXHarbinger · April 2016

25001+

Because overload gimp.

Master_Fluff · April 2016

Where's the "Don't know/don't care, as long as boss healthbar goes down I'm doing fine" option?

Acsvf · April 2016

0-3000

ulrik.igerupb16_ESO wrote: »

Where's the "Don't know/don't care, as long as boss healthbar goes down I'm doing fine" option?

I didn't think that would go on a number based group frequency table.

Van_0S · April 2016

20001-23000

Impale

The Uninvited · April 2016

17001-20000

That's on my DK and nightblade. My sorcerer hits way harder but has less sustain.

Shogunami · April 2016

14001-17000

To be fair I'm not really sure, because neither FTC or AUI are 100% correct and somtimes they vary vastly.

My Stamblade's DPS hasn't really changed that much in months regardless of using Briarheart/Hundings, Hundings/Night Mother and some other combos, with and without agility set, DW/master's bow or DW/2handed.
In aoe clumps I can peak at 150k dps, but in single target it's anything in between 10k and 20k (so I figured, on average 14-17K), and if I'm lucky with crits and synergies maybe I can reach 25k but only very rarely.

I guess it depends on group and buffs, depends on if animation cancelling 'works properly' or not (because sometimes the actual game input is just slower than usual, I have NO idea what to blame this on, but it's clearly there) and on if I have to move around a lot or not.

Spoiler = Preemptive unwarranted rant on elitism and

The whole DPS race is kind of ruining this game tbh. Sure, if you do 5k dps as a DD in a veteran dungeon you aren't of much use to your group. But the elitists are bringing this game down. Sure, 25k+ dps is awesome, but the game isn't balanced around 25k+ dps.

I enjoy competing and improving on my DPS with my mates, but more so by improving my skills and ability to play rather than by simply going for a must have I-WIN-BUTTON.
Maybe it's a fault of the developers for not adequately balancing the skills, but for me my DPS and usefullness have improved by simply honing my own skills and learning my character.

I know this is not a popular opinion but I think the whole concept of meta builds is ***. And I know, people say they want to be best, min max and be the most opimal bla bla. But FACT is that meta builds offer overpowered/unbalanced performance with less effort - meaning that people who only play meta builds by definition only want to play overpowered builds.

Don't get me wrong, this is fine. There has always been cookie cutter builds and flavor of the months in more or less all MMOs. But don't go about flexing your über dps muscles when you as a player has less to do with your DPS than your build.
But maybe I'm just more focused on enjoying my character than dps seeing as I've more or less only changed two abilities on my build in the last year.

Maybe it means my build was proto-meta, huehue.

Czeri · April 2016

8001-11000

I find it hard to believe that those putting their damage at 15k and over are taking into account the dps across the whole fight. I mean sure, in the execute phase you get 20-30k easily, but what about the first 75% of the boss' health? What about dodging the boss' attacks; avoiding (or burning) the adds; sitting there helpless while the boss uses a stunning/trapping attack? All that costs time, which obviously lowers damage per second. So picture or it didn't happen!

Marktoneth3 · April 2016

0-3000

beamy93 wrote: »

Any class with the appropriate gear and rotation should be putting up at least 20k dps pretty regularly in pve now after the cp changes. Haven't seen stam sorc numbers lately, but who plays that in pve?

20 k every class

LMAO

Destruent · April 2016

25001+

Czeri wrote: »

I find it hard to believe that those putting their damage at 15k and over are taking into account the dps across the whole fight. I mean sure, in the execute phase you get 20-30k easily, but what about the first 75% of the boss' health? What about dodging the boss' attacks; avoiding (or burning) the adds; sitting there helpless while the boss uses a stunning/trapping attack? All that costs time, which obviously lowers damage per second. So picture or it didn't happen!

You usually don't need to do that much mechanics when you have enough DPS. Also most bosses don't interrupt your DPS if you have a good tank

There are some bosses where my DPS is lower than 25k, but they are rly rare whereas on most bosses i can do much more....

LadyNalcarya · April 2016

25001+

@Czeri wrote: »

I find it hard to believe that those putting their damage at 15k and over are taking into account the dps across the whole fight. I mean sure, in the execute phase you get 20-30k easily, but what about the first 75% of the boss' health? What about dodging the boss' attacks; avoiding (or burning) the adds; sitting there helpless while the boss uses a stunning/trapping attack? All that costs time, which obviously lowers damage per second. So picture or it didn't happen!

Well, at the middle of this page you can see my teammates parses in our average WGT run. I was healing.

I cant outdps him, unless on sorc. XD But still, numbers over 25k are easily achievable.

mdylan2013 · April 2016

17001-20000

I average around 19k, it could be higher but I sacrificed damage for sustain.

sekou_trayvond · April 2016

8

Always 8.

The Uninvited · April 2016

17001-20000

Shogunami wrote: »

The whole DPS race is kind of ruining this game tbh. Sure, if you do 5k dps as a DD in a veteran dungeon you aren't of much use to your group. But the elitists are bringing this game down. Sure, 25k+ dps is awesome, but the game isn't balanced around 25k+ dps.

That's not the fault of the players, that's the developers. And for veteran MoL or Maelstrom Arena, you will need/want that dps so at least there are some parts of the game balanced around 25k+ dps.

I enjoy competing and improving on my DPS with my mates, but more so by improving my skills and ability to play rather than by simply going for a must have I-WIN-BUTTON.
Maybe it's a fault of the developers for not adequately balancing the skills, but for me my DPS and usefullness have improved by simply honing my own skills and learning my character.

And the same goes for the ones that follow the meta. Do you really think we only use one button to get those dps numbers? It's skill rotation and 1 screw up in the rotation and dps numbers drop down quickly. In a group it's also buffs or debuffs from healer and tank that help achieve those numbers.

I know this is not a popular opinion but I think the whole concept of meta builds is ***. And I know, people say they want to be best, min max and be the most opimal bla bla. But FACT is that meta builds offer overpowered/unbalanced performance with less effort - meaning that people who only play meta builds by definition only want to play overpowered builds.

Don't get me wrong, this is fine. There has always been cookie cutter builds and flavor of the months in more or less all MMOs. But don't go about flexing your über dps muscles when you as a player has less to do with your DPS than your build.

This is where you are wrong, if people don't know their build and rotation they can use a cookie cutter build all they want and won't get a dps above 10-15k.

But maybe I'm just more focused on enjoying my character than dps seeing as I've more or less only changed two abilities on my build in the last year.

Maybe it means my build was proto-meta, huehue.

LadyNalcarya · April 2016

25001+

Its actually funny how some of the casuals are trying to belittle "evil elitists that ruin the game!11!!!1".
If high dps requires no effort, why not everyone pulls it even with good gear (since most of this gear is crafted and can be obtained easily)?

The Uninvited wrote: »

This is where you are wrong, if people don't know their build and rotation they can use a cookie cutter build all they want and won't get a dps above 10-15k.

This is true.
I have BiS gear and maxed cps, but if I screw up my rotation or just not paying attention, my dps drops like crazy.

Holy-Dope · April 2016

25001+

25000+

In the current meta of Spell damage & Crit Damage bonus stacking from different skills/ Armour buffs, if you play with the people who have done the dungeon countless time and can sleepwalk through it, all the bosses in the vet dungeon (a few exception but not for all) are nothing but *****. You can nuke them most of them in less than 30 sec and rest few in less than 1 min.

The idea is to understand your own game play. What skills you are using on your bar. Which skill is used in the rotation when and why. How many times you are doing bar swaps. If you dont understand your own skills and follow cookie clutter builds, DPS nos will not be the best.

There however is another view to this topic and that is, how much DPS you really need to clear these bosses. Well my honest answer for most of the cases is 10-15k is sufficient but again being knowledgeable of mechanics is needed or else it'll end in a endless resource fights and eventually you will loose after running out of resources.

The screenshot posted bellow is DPS chk i did a few weeks back, but this was specifically optimized to get large nos. I can not and will not claim that these are my regular nos but I typically get above 25k + in any boos fight, dungeon or trials.

NBrookus · April 2016

14001-17000

Czeri wrote: »

I find it hard to believe that those putting their damage at 15k and over are taking into account the dps across the whole fight. I mean sure, in the execute phase you get 20-30k easily, but what about the first 75% of the boss' health? What about dodging the boss' attacks; avoiding (or burning) the adds; sitting there helpless while the boss uses a stunning/trapping attack? All that costs time, which obviously lowers damage per second. So picture or it didn't happen!

We have add-ons for that on PC that measure our DPS, and for how long it was measured. Granted some people will lie or cherry pick numbers, but you if you are in a good team it makes all the difference. The tank is debuffing the boss and minimizing or eliminating boss attacks on the DPS and keeping aggro on and/or slowing down dangerous mobs. A good healer means you aren't wasting time with too many self-heals and have additional resources when you need them. Both the healer and tank should be buffing the team, too. This contributes significantly to DPS numbers. Under those circumstances, 15k really isn't very high, even before you have players with maxxed out CP and fully legendary V16 builds.

If you are V16 and pulling under 11k DPS, chances are you are not optimizing your build or rotation, or your support team members are not. Or some combination thereof. Which is fine if you are having fun and happy with where you are at; most content is doable with DPS in that range; if I PUG and pick up a DPS doing 10k I'm not going to be unhappy.

But if you want to do better, you can. A good guild can help you figure out what's missing. Or the fine folks here on this forum.

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