What do you think is more important: the upcoming DLC or fixing bugs and lag?

idk · April 2016

DLC - we need new content

Both are important. No sense in fixing bugs if a large number of players leave the game due to the lack of content as did last year.

Never pays to be short sighted.

Besides, anyone who has played MMOs for awhile knows many not the current bugs will never get fixed. Every MMO I have played still has bugs that were present at the launch of the content.

LoadingBar5 · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

I am really looking forward to DB, but I know I won't enjoy it when the game keeps bugging out. So I rather wait another quarter for DB and have a fix for the next release. A really good one that fixes most of it you know.

But I haven't heard about any plans to make this real...

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · April 2016

DLC - we need new content

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

id prefer they do new content. For me the game is 100% stable. I havent had any crashes except with the 64 bit beta client. The only complaints I ever hear about performance is cyrodill based.

Is not only about crashing is about the thousands of bugs present in the game, issues like poor class balance lagg even in PvE zones, FPS instability and exploits.

I havent experienced any of these issues. Had some problems first couple of days the patch was out. Thats it.

Arkvoril · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

We need to fix the game first! Why release DLC when tons of bugs and issues still exist!

HairyFairy · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

Come on forum dwellers! we need more votes on this, show @ZOS that we want a stable game, push back the release date if you must.

STEVIL · April 2016

DLC - we need new content

"So we need you to help with Cyrodil fixes. What do you think should be your starting point?"

"Well the flowers here and here are just bland. Let me work on adding more detail and expanding the color ranges."

"Great! Get right on that!"

"Ok bring in the story line chief... So we need you to..."

And... fade.

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

Not sure - hard to decide between the two

There was a thread almost exactly like this last week....and the week or two prior

Please be sure to search prior to creating new threads, and then just vote and comment on existing open threads.

mysteryblogga · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

While I am so excited about the Dark Brotherhood coming up in the summer, I am content with what is implemented in the game thus far. A stable game is far more important, because even without the Dark Brotherhood or other updates, one can still spend a stupid amount of hours in this game.

Rune_Relic · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

IcyDeadPeople wrote: »

These are different teams working on the new content and Cyrodiil optimizations.

It's not like they can just pull an art director or animator off Dark Brotherhood and have them work on revising the netcode etc.

True... but what they can do is employ more coding people and less artwork people with their finite budget.
Not that I want to get rid of any of the world building team as they have made the game what it is.
The backend coding team simply cant keep up with all the bugs (would have been wiser not to create them to begin with using some QA and validity testing).
New bugs are created far faster than they are addressed.
Even the supposed bug fixes are... 90% of the time....bugged.

Then there is the rampant crashing, fps, audio, load screens, lag, balance........

Elsonso · April 2016

DLC - we need new content

While is is important to fix bugs and problems, a lot of the bugs are going to take time to fix, like lag, and many iterations to address, like balance. They can't stop developing new content because not everyone sees every bug. The delay to focus on bug fixes could drive those people away.

Grabmoore · April 2016

DLC - we need new content

HairyFairy wrote: »

Come on forum dwellers! we need more votes on this, show @ZOS that we want a stable game, push back the release date if you must.

Stop! Stop rigth here. It's not like we or even they have a choice!
We won't get "Bug Fix DLCs", because that's not in line with any business model.

Jaronking · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

Abeille wrote: »

Oh_Skrivva wrote: »

Will gladly wait 6-8 months without dlc for a more stable game. Even if they had to take game down from servers for the 6-8 months. I wouldn't even care if my eso monthly subscription was still includeed for the time they had it down to fix it.

Well, we did wait several months without DLC because of the console launch.

But taking the game down for months, even if they could afford it, would harm their public image so much I can't imagine they would be able to get it back up.

Well Final fantasy Developers did this for a believe a year +.To fix problems in the game.Guess what that game is doing 10x better and has way more active sub's then ESO and sold more copies on Ps4 alone then ESO on all three platforms.If they closed down the game to fix issues rebrand it again and fix all the problems gamer will flock to this game because its shows people that the devolpers care about this game more then money and want this stuff fixed.That what all MMO devolpers should care about the game and the playerbase not making money and the money will come.

Also I can't wait for DB its my favorite part of many ELders Scrolls games but I'll rather have a fixed game then a broken DLc that make me no longer care about a guild that I love.They already did it to the thieves Guild please don't do it to Dark Brotherhood Zos.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

STEVIL · April 2016

DLC - we need new content

Rune_Relic wrote: »

True... but what they can do is employ more coding people and less artwork people with their finite budget.
........

because as we all know six men and six women can make a baby in six weeks instead of the 9 months eta one man snd one womsn would ve and bringing new folks in to correct code they didnt write and have no experience in is efficent to the max.

Return of the Son of the Mythical Man Month III: This time itsvsocial.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · April 2016

DLC - we need new content

Tandor wrote: »

The people who prefer fixes over new content would be the first to complain if the DLCs were delayed - I can imagine all the "ZOS lied to us" posts if the quarterly dates weren't met.

Fortunately different teams do different things, so we can opt for more content knowing that they're working on fixes as well as the new content.

True

Ritzey01 · April 2016

DLC - we need new content

I voted for the next DLC because i REALLY want the infinite crafting bags!!

Wreuntzylla · April 2016

Not enough information to complete the survey. How long will fixing bugs take? How many times will they need to "fix" the bug before it's actually fixed?

At this point I don't think they can fix the bugs that irritate us the most (e.g., lag), or they would have done it. Their repeated promises of improvements are simply unnoticeable.

Abeille · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

Jaronking wrote: »

Abeille wrote: »

Oh_Skrivva wrote: »

Will gladly wait 6-8 months without dlc for a more stable game. Even if they had to take game down from servers for the 6-8 months. I wouldn't even care if my eso monthly subscription was still includeed for the time they had it down to fix it.

Well, we did wait several months without DLC because of the console launch.

But taking the game down for months, even if they could afford it, would harm their public image so much I can't imagine they would be able to get it back up.

Well Final fantasy Developers did this for a believe a year +.To fix problems in the game.Guess what that game is doing 10x better and has way more active sub's then ESO and sold more copies on Ps4 alone then ESO on all three platforms.If they closed down the game to fix issues rebrand it again and fix all the problems gamer will flock to this game because its shows people that the devolpers care about this game more then money and want this stuff fixed.That what all MMO devolpers should care about the game and the playerbase not making money and the money will come.

Also I can't wait for DB its my favorite part of many ELders Scrolls games but I'll rather have a fixed game then a broken DLc that make me no longer care about a guild that I love.They already did it to the thieves Guild please don't do it to Dark Brotherhood Zos.

@ZOS_GinaBruno

I am aware, but what worked for another game won't necessarily work for ESO, which already relaunched once (granted, without being taken offline).

After two years, it would seem like a last desperate effort to save the game (that doesn't really need saving, IMO, just more testing before releasing dlcs), and I can't imagine that doing any good for its reputation. And that's IF, and that's a big if, they can afford doing that. I mean, can you imagine the cost to keep people working with the servers closed? With no sub or crown money income?

It's way too risky and I don't think the situation is bad enough that it would justify taking that risk.

altemriel · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

captainwolfos wrote: »

Dark Brotherhood is my favourite faction, and I've been waiting for it since launch. The fact we get to visit the Gold Coast makes it doubly more exciting for me.

That being said, no one will be having fun if the game is unplayable.

On the other hand, they're doing the best they can. I believe in you, ZOS \o/

I agree

AshTal · April 2016

DLC - we need new content

Problem is with fixes we tend to get more bugs and also they fix things that don't effect me.
Sure fixes if its my top 10 issues but if its fixes on some AD quest I don't care.

urkonse · April 2016

DLC - we need new content

i want DB more than anything because text chat on consoles (i hope rumours are true .__.)

and There is ONLY 2 major bugs on ps4: Game crash & freeze , neither arent too common.
lag doesnt exist outside mournhold or azura star

OrangeTheCat · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

But ZOS has always (vis this game) cared more about profit than bugs/stability. So they will prefer to release a DLC than fix bugs or address stability issues.

Tdroid · April 2016

Both. I don't think there is about content in the game, nor do I think it runs nearly as well as it should.

Asherons_Call · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

Looks like the vote is pretty lopsided so far. Yay for fixes!

jeevin · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

Irrelevant pole anyway. Development resources are geared towards making money from the crown store for the lowest possible investment. Yes pessimism.

Rune_Relic · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

STEVIL wrote: »

Rune_Relic wrote: »

True... but what they can do is employ more coding people and less artwork people with their finite budget.
........

because as we all know six men and six women can make a baby in six weeks instead of the 9 months eta one man snd one womsn would ve and bringing new folks in to correct code they didnt write and have no experience in is efficent to the max.

Return of the Son of the Mythical Man Month III: This time itsvsocial.

So you are saying don't employ people to reduce your workload ?
Uhu....lol.

SirAndy · April 2016

That's not how (good) software development works. It's not either/or.

You always have teams working on different objectives at the same time ...

ajwest927 · April 2016

DLC - we need new content

We shouldn't have to wait for the next dlc for them to fix bugs and glitches

Redrixs · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

Of course, once they fixed most of the bugs, it will be easier for them to work on content without having to fix every bugs that appear. Fixing the game now will mean better content without so many bugs. There will be new content anyway, so why not fix the game while it still broken instead of adding more broken content?

Enraged_Tiki_Torch · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

I am looking forward to the Dark Brotherhood DLC but I will be disappointed if it releases with major bugs. Removing Vet ranks concerns me but fingers crossed

Oh_Skrivva · April 2016

Fixes - we want a stable game

It makes no sense to add things to the game when there are clearly issues with what we have now. That just piles up more bugs/problems for them to fix. "hey this support beam looks like it's gonna give. I know, putting more weight on it would certainly help it". I totally understand that new content is important. But before we build and expand. It makes sense to start with a solid foundation.