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Im horrified with ZOS!

  • eserras7b16_ESO
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    ZoS has really no interested in Banning players, and that's why I think he must've done something wrong. If you really didn't then contact them, try to explain yourself, insist.
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  • Reb
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    Alferino wrote: »
    No, ZOS would not be able to access my email, they banned my account and told me it is final for "account sharing" when i did no such thing!
    Ive done nothing wrong and im being banned for it
    i know noone here can help me, but i want zos put on show, everyone should see how poor there service is

    ...you have already admitted in this thread to account sharing with your brother ....its against the rules, simple as that
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    Reb wrote: »
    Alferino wrote: »
    No, ZOS would not be able to access my email, they banned my account and told me it is final for "account sharing" when i did no such thing!
    Ive done nothing wrong and im being banned for it
    i know noone here can help me, but i want zos put on show, everyone should see how poor there service is

    ...you have already admitted in this thread to account sharing with your brother ....its against the rules, simple as that

    So your trying to tell me i cant let my little brother get on my account because he didnt have his own at the time while im at work? which was last year?
  • Casterial
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    Alferino wrote: »
    davidtxr wrote: »
    This is all speculation we don't and probably never know why they banned him so to try and comment on this would be very difficult, he needs to speak with Zos directly not come onto the forums and try to post a negative image of Zos as this will not achieve much

    Well, i would speak to them directly, but i have no number to contact, and ive sent about 10 emails to them, ALL OF THEM being the reply saying the case is closed, what else should i do? just let it go? no thanks, ill put them on show for everyone to see how "great" there support really is


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    Edited by Casterial on April 1, 2016 9:41AM
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  • Alferino
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Alferino wrote: »
    No, ZOS would not be able to access my email, they banned my account and told me it is final for "account sharing" when i did no such thing!
    Ive done nothing wrong and im being banned for it
    i know noone here can help me, but i want zos put on show, everyone should see how poor there service is

    They'll get you here too,..and delete this thread,sadly.

    yep of course they will
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    Account sharing is account sharing hell could be your Mother but would still be sharing , but as Zos haven't said this is why your banned we shouldn't be speculating on this but still don't think coming on here to paint a negative image of Zos just to ruining the game for others is the right way of getting this issue sorted
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    Well, thing is it depends on what the offense is they ban for.
    Botting, goldselling (Thank goodness for the delete limit praise it got rid of those gold spammers!)
    Expoiting cheating.
    It depends in what account sharing is, I think its making to accounts and sharing between those accounts but I think a lot of players have mulitple accounts or giving another person your password which is something they do not tolerate.
    trolling they will ban for.
    Basically everything said in there terms of service code of conduct.
    Edited by Thevampirenight on April 1, 2016 9:45AM
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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    davidtxr wrote: »
    Account sharing is account sharing hell could be your Mother but would still be sharing , but as Zos haven't said this is why your banned we shouldn't be speculating on this but still don't think coming on here to paint a negative image of Zos just to ruining the game for others is the right way of getting this issue sorted

    This is not true. They have no idea from the same house if you are account sharing or not. It just shows the same IP. Also I dont think when they say account sharing is banned they mean you cant let your little brother play your account for a bit. What happens sometimes is people pay a service to level their characters. Thats what they dont want. They dont care if your family plays.
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    davidtxr wrote: »
    Account sharing is account sharing hell could be your Mother but would still be sharing , but as Zos haven't said this is why your banned we shouldn't be speculating on this but still don't think coming on here to paint a negative image of Zos just to ruining the game for others is the right way of getting this issue sorted

    He was bringing the issue to the public so others can see if ZOS was wrong. He in no way blamed the game, pointed negatives of the game or anything insulting. He posted concern about how unfair Zenimax ban went without actual physical or virtual evidence to back their ban up.

    Also, his family member more than likely used it with him in the room watching, showing others the game and helping spread the game to others. I mean I'd love to try the game out before buying it. Hell many would!

    And if ZOS was so concerned about COC and TOS there would be some people to this day who would be ban in-game for exploiting, directly a bannable offense from the TOS itself, but they still play. So, Zenimax still should explain to him how, why, and show proof when asked (which I believe he asked.)

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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Problem is ZOS cannot post about why they banned him here. So you only get one side of the story. Noone here can help him anyways not even the moderators. So its useless to do and probably why they dont allow it.
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    Problem is ZOS cannot post about why they banned him here. So you only get one side of the story. Noone here can help him anyways not even the moderators. So its useless to do and probably why they dont allow it.

    I know some forms don't allow hot topics so nerf threads would be one of those topics they would not allow.
    They have reasons, and they are stricter on these forums not even allowing any type of cuss word. '
    They just want to keep the forums clean basically.
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  • Casterial
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    Problem is ZOS cannot post about why they banned him here. So you only get one side of the story. Noone here can help him anyways not even the moderators. So its useless to do and probably why they dont allow it.

    As a Game Programmer & Implementer I learned the #1 thing to keep your game running is your player base being satisfied. If this type of issue keeps going how can the player base remain satisfied? They can email him back the proof, since they closed the case. This was a step further like he has told Zenimax he would take if needed, before they rudely told him "Case is closed." aka "Don't reply, wasting your time. Buy a new account."
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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Problem is ZOS cannot post about why they banned him here. So you only get one side of the story. Noone here can help him anyways not even the moderators. So its useless to do and probably why they dont allow it.

    I know some forms don't allow hot topics so nerf threads would be one of those topics they would not allow.
    They have reasons, and they are stricter on these forums not even allowing any type of cuss word. '
    They just want to keep the forums clean basically.

    Thats the moderators job. If you cant communicate without using profanity then possibly you dont belong here.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Casterial wrote: »
    Problem is ZOS cannot post about why they banned him here. So you only get one side of the story. Noone here can help him anyways not even the moderators. So its useless to do and probably why they dont allow it.

    As a Game Programmer & Implementer I learned the #1 thing to keep your game running is your player base being satisfied. If this type of issue keeps going how can the player base remain satisfied? They can email him back the proof, since they closed the case. This was a step further like he has told Zenimax he would take if needed, before they rudely told him "Case is closed." aka "Don't reply, wasting your time. Buy a new account."

    What do you mean "keeps going"? Obviously zenimax knows something we dont.
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    Problem is ZOS cannot post about why they banned him here. So you only get one side of the story. No one here can help him anyways not even the moderators. So its useless to do and probably why they don't allow it.

    I know some forms don't allow hot topics so nerf threads would be one of those topics they would not allow.
    They have reasons, and they are stricter on these forums not even allowing any type of cuss word. '
    They just want to keep the forums clean basically.

    Flaming, bashing, name bashing, showcasing names, NSFW, and any other means that keep these forums disorderly, such as off topic replies are what get forums to usually close. So far this is a player @Alferino concerned to his ban, and is in high hopes ZOS may read this and message him. Perhaps tagging @ZOS_CoriJ , @ZOS_BradW (or is it @ZOS_BradL ) [Not too sure sorry!],may help to clear any issue up with Alfie.

    Regards,
    Casterial.
    Edited by Casterial on April 1, 2016 9:57AM
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  • Casterial
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    Casterial wrote: »
    Problem is ZOS cannot post about why they banned him here. So you only get one side of the story. Noone here can help him anyways not even the moderators. So its useless to do and probably why they dont allow it.

    As a Game Programmer & Implementer I learned the #1 thing to keep your game running is your player base being satisfied. If this type of issue keeps going how can the player base remain satisfied? They can email him back the proof, since they closed the case. This was a step further like he has told Zenimax he would take if needed, before they rudely told him "Case is closed." aka "Don't reply, wasting your time. Buy a new account."

    What do you mean "keeps going"? Obviously zenimax knows something we dont.

    Then they should show @Alferino the proof so this forum post can be closed, and he knows something was done wrong on his end. Until then I don't see any means to why they haven't shown him proof. Things like "FERPA" may refrain ZOS from messaging him here, etc. But they can close this forum easily if it gets out of hand. Just hope Alfie gets everything cleared away and justice happens correctly! Again, best of luck!

    Sorry @Alferino for your issue with Zenimax, and I hope everything gets cleared up.

    Regards,
    Casterial

    Edited by Casterial on April 1, 2016 9:59AM
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  • Alorier
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    davidtxr wrote: »
    Account sharing is account sharing hell could be your Mother but would still be sharing , but as Zos haven't said this is why your banned we shouldn't be speculating on this but still don't think coming on here to paint a negative image of Zos just to ruining the game for others is the right way of getting this issue sorted

    This is not true. They have no idea from the same house if you are account sharing or not. It just shows the same IP. Also I dont think when they say account sharing is banned they mean you cant let your little brother play your account for a bit. What happens sometimes is people pay a service to level their characters. Thats what they dont want. They dont care if your family plays.[/quote

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    Sorry but no where does it say that it's ok for a family member to have access
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Casterial wrote: »
    Casterial wrote: »
    Problem is ZOS cannot post about why they banned him here. So you only get one side of the story. Noone here can help him anyways not even the moderators. So its useless to do and probably why they dont allow it.

    As a Game Programmer & Implementer I learned the #1 thing to keep your game running is your player base being satisfied. If this type of issue keeps going how can the player base remain satisfied? They can email him back the proof, since they closed the case. This was a step further like he has told Zenimax he would take if needed, before they rudely told him "Case is closed." aka "Don't reply, wasting your time. Buy a new account."

    What do you mean "keeps going"? Obviously zenimax knows something we dont.

    Then they should show @Alferino the proof so this forum post can be closed, and he knows something was done wrong on his end. Until then I don't see any means to why they haven't shown him proof. Things like "FERPA" may refrain ZOS from messaging him here, etc. But they can close this forum easily if it gets out of hand. Just hope Alfie gets everything cleared away and justice happens correctly! Again, best of luck!

    Sorry @Alferino for your issue with Zenimax, and I hope everything gets cleared up.

    Regards,
    Casterial

    You only assume this because thats what you were told. How do you know what he says is the truth?
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    Casterial wrote: »
    Casterial wrote: »
    Problem is ZOS cannot post about why they banned him here. So you only get one side of the story. Noone here can help him anyways not even the moderators. So its useless to do and probably why they dont allow it.

    As a Game Programmer & Implementer I learned the #1 thing to keep your game running is your player base being satisfied. If this type of issue keeps going how can the player base remain satisfied? They can email him back the proof, since they closed the case. This was a step further like he has told Zenimax he would take if needed, before they rudely told him "Case is closed." aka "Don't reply, wasting your time. Buy a new account."

    What do you mean "keeps going"? Obviously zenimax knows something we dont.

    Then they should show @Alferino the proof so this forum post can be closed, and he knows something was done wrong on his end. Until then I don't see any means to why they haven't shown him proof. Things like "FERPA" may refrain ZOS from messaging him here, etc. But they can close this forum easily if it gets out of hand. Just hope Alfie gets everything cleared away and justice happens correctly! Again, best of luck!

    Sorry @Alferino for your issue with Zenimax, and I hope everything gets cleared up.

    Regards,
    Casterial
    You only assume this because thats what you were told. How do you know what he says is the truth?

    @Alferino is a very old ESO friend. I am just trying to help him get what he wants. Which is some proof or better justice toward fixing his account. There is no need to start a back and forth. He emailed me and said it was wrong that when he asked for proof they instead closed his ticket and ban him for good, showing him no proof after all the proof he showed them of being the sole owner.
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  • Casterial
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    davidtxr wrote: »
    davidtxr wrote: »
    Account sharing is account sharing hell could be your Mother but would still be sharing , but as Zos haven't said this is why your banned we shouldn't be speculating on this but still don't think coming on here to paint a negative image of Zos just to ruining the game for others is the right way of getting this issue sorted

    This is not true. They have no idea from the same house if you are account sharing or not. It just shows the same IP. Also I dont think when they say account sharing is banned they mean you cant let your little brother play your account for a bit. What happens sometimes is people pay a service to level their characters. Thats what they dont want. They dont care if your family plays.[/quote
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    I believe this is what @Alferino did when a breach of security happened, and ended getting terminated and perma ban from the game with no other way to further contact the devs.
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  • Alorier
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    Well I hope if he's done nothing wrong it gets resolved but since he's admitted one breech , but I maintain this is the wrong place to try and resolve this matter on a open forum he should have tried to go through one of the moderators to see if they could have intervened but with this I'm out of this thread as its not getting anyone any where
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Im pretty sure ZOS has already stated if you want to let your brother or sister whatever play on your account thats ok. So he hasnt violated anything there. They look by IP they have no idea his brother was on or if he was on. Even if they did know they dont care. What they dont want is leveling services logging into your account and leveling your characters for you in exchange for a fee. I hope it gets worked out as well that being said.
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    We never get the full story in these cases, and what we do get usually changes during the course of the thread - as in this case where "I did no such thing" becomes "I did it 3 or 4 times". The chances are that there's a lot more to this than meets the eye, but if not then the OP can submit a ticket and resolve it the proper way.

    As always with customer support issues, there are two ways of dealing with a situation like this. You can either quietly put in a politely worded request for assistance, or you can abuse the company publicly. It doesn't take a genius to work out which approach is more likely to be successful, or the likely truth of the circumstances based on the approach adopted.
  • Thevampirenight
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    Problem is ZOS cannot post about why they banned him here. So you only get one side of the story. Noone here can help him anyways not even the moderators. So its useless to do and probably why they dont allow it.

    I know some forms don't allow hot topics so nerf threads would be one of those topics they would not allow.
    They have reasons, and they are stricter on these forums not even allowing any type of cuss word. '
    They just want to keep the forums clean basically.

    Thats the moderators job. If you cant communicate without using profanity then possibly you dont belong here.

    They want to keep this forums family friendly have no problems with this we don't need this to be like zone chat. I can see no problems with the forums being kept clean of cuss words.
    Its just they should have a option to toggle the filter off on your end. I can see why the filter is there.
    But I rather they had a toggle for that.
    Edited by Thevampirenight on April 1, 2016 11:12AM
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    Oh alfie....

    Ill let the proper people know in game.

    This sucks.
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  • Thevampirenight
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    I think its time they close this its better because they don't allow these threads anyway.
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    If his account was hacked they ban it so the person cannot regain access to it who stole it. Obviously they have his email password as well or they wouldnt be able to login.

    Exactly. I suggest the OP look beyond his grief and see the obvious.

    I also suggest the OP to use more complicated passwords and not use the same password from email and game.

  • Garethjolnir
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    Alferino wrote: »
    if i get banned for my BROTHER using my account thats totally ***

    I'm afraid it isn't.
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Alferino wrote: »
    Im so horrified with ZOS, i came home, tried to log into my account, and all my details were changed, same with my email details
    i contacted ZOS for help and support AND THEY BANNED MY ACCOUNT AND TOLD ME THE CASE WAS CLOSED!!!!

    Is this the help they are really going to give when i try to come to them for help!?!?! This is pathetic!
    its not the first time they have done a ban so stupidly before, like the time they banned germantrocity over his Toon name,
    Im actually so angry to think ZOS would ban someone when there trying to go to them for help? and i have alot of friends to back me up on this
    this is stupid zos and yous will be hearing alot more from me!

    That person's name would have been offensive to some people,as was my name at one time,for it was to do with WWII German soldiers.I had to change it,and I am unable to say what my ingame name was because it will get snipped out.Suffice to say it was about a certain Military Division.

    SS

    Secret Service. Social Security. Screw Steamer (the SS that used to appear before a ship name) ;-)

    Edited by Appleblade on April 1, 2016 1:24PM
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Pretty sure this is turning into an off topic deal here. Prob best if we steer away from WW2 back to ESO :)
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