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Will they bring the nerf hammer
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sirrmattus✭✭✭✭✭It's great to finally have a decent tool to fight zerg, I'll admit.
What botters me is that this is the new Flavor of the month.. and EVERYONE has to run it..
You see magica nightblade running towards small groups all the time thinking they are Sypher.
Say what you want but that combo of:
CA + VD + Proxy Det + Soul Tether
is too strong.
I don't feel any of those skill are OP individually, it's all of them mixed together that is OP..
I'm curious to see how Zenimax will respond to this issue.
THIS IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEMEbonheart Pact - North American Server
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TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Somebody better tell the Roman Phalanx that to watch out for VD! lmao
Seriously playing with my guild mates was zerging?0 -
LBxFinalDeath✭✭✭✭The moment 24 man groups all started using VD+alchemist to instakill tiny groups..like sub 5 members before they even knew what hit them was the moment it was doomed to be nerfed.Edited by LBxFinalDeath on March 31, 2016 4:11PM3 -
sirrmattus✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »Somebody better tell the Roman Phalanx that to watch out for VD! lmao
Seriously playing with my guild mates was zerging?
NOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOME FKN FUN RP RIGHT THERE MAN!!
hit me up ingame id love to join your tustedo (phalanx was for greek hoplites and pikemen)Ebonheart Pact - North American Server
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✭gw2only1b14_ESO wrote: »Dude is there any funny Monty Python meme out there that shows them stacked/zerged and a enemy pounces on them..It would fit this
OH waite
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgj3nZWtOfA
I wrote this months ago somewhere, but I still think that this clapping coconut halves simulating the sound of galloping horses should be a thing in ESO
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Eleusian✭✭✭It's all kinda silly. ZOS creates large scale Zerg style pvp. Many streamers and regulars actually want arenas and small scale pvp. Instead of making arenas they make there own pvp model work against people to create smaller scale pvp in a large scale environment. TypicalPS4 NA1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭sirrmattus wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Somebody better tell the Roman Phalanx that to watch out for VD! lmao
Seriously playing with my guild mates was zerging?
NOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOME FKN FUN RP RIGHT THERE MAN!!
hit me up ingame id love to join your tustedo (phalanx was for greek hoplites and pikemen)
Forgot about the Macedonians. lol0 -
Skinless_Jerk✭✭✭SuraklinPrime wrote: »Don't stack. Stay away from the zerg. Hold block. Problem solved.
It's nothing new. You also can get gank by Evil Hunter, Snipe, Wrecking Blow, Heavy Attack etc....
It is new because it is a mechanic that punishes you for grouping with other players, even 1 other player, even standing near other players you don't know... IN AN MMO WAR GAME!!!!11!
Shoddy fix for an engine problem.
LOL.. as if solo players haven't been stomped on enough in the past with their shoddy nerfs. This is a comical post .. you have AOE caps on your side, you have the numbers advantage, you have the ability to BLOCK yet you also have the ability (cheek) to come and cry about the only advantageous set in the game that benefits solo players the most ... My bet would be you are running 5 piece VD and hate being killed by it!
Dry your eyes mate, I guarantee you this will be nerfed because of the amount of ZERG players who will complain about it in the coming weeks/months hahaha. Funny though, I can't wait to read the complaints hahaCP561 Breton Templar
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Katahdin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I can't wait to see what's planned in the next big update. They said they they would address stamina then..... I'm almost afraid to ask.Beta tester November 20130 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Lol. Have to love threads where someone gets killed and what something nerfed as a result.0 -
EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭sirrmattus wrote: »to vicious death and clever alchemist? because of whats goin on in pvp?
literally a group of 3 mag nb can instant kill a whole zerg
good. zergs are usually full of people without thumbs anyways.Xbox One [ NA ]
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Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭sirrmattus wrote: »to vicious death and clever alchemist? because of whats goin on in pvp?
literally a group of 3 mag nb can instant kill a whole zerg
Cause spreading out 5 meters from eachother is hard? What about the pug PVP players who have been steam rolled by the AOE zergs for several months?
I have had my fair share of deaths from VD, and I get irritated when I'm in a battle and people stack up close to me giving the NB a perfect target.
Edited by Xjcon on March 31, 2016 5:25PMBriza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
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sirrmattus✭✭✭✭✭TequilaFire wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »TequilaFire wrote: »Somebody better tell the Roman Phalanx that to watch out for VD! lmao
Seriously playing with my guild mates was zerging?
NOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE SOME FKN FUN RP RIGHT THERE MAN!!
hit me up ingame id love to join your tustedo (phalanx was for greek hoplites and pikemen)
Forgot about the Macedonians. lol
well i put macedonians and greeks in the same categoryEbonheart Pact - North American Server
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sirrmattus✭✭✭✭✭Giles.floydub17_ESO wrote: »Lol. Have to love threads where someone gets killed and what something nerfed as a result.
have to love ignorant [snip]
[Edit to remove censor bypass]Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on March 31, 2016 9:49PMEbonheart Pact - North American Server
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flguy147ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭sirrmattus wrote: »to vicious death and clever alchemist? because of whats goin on in pvp?
literally a group of 3 mag nb can instant kill a whole zerg
Cause spreading out 5 meters from eachother is hard? What about the pug PVP players who have been steam rolled by the AOE zergs for several months?
I have had my fair share of deaths from VD, and I get irritated when I'm in a battle and people stack up close to me giving the NB a perfect target.
ZOS put in a bandaid fix, its common sense that people will zerg and people will be next to people. ZOS isnt fixing the core problem, its why people are leaving the game. ZOS is trying to FORCE a playstyle on players instead of fixing the problem and allowing players to play how they want to. Obviously people want to zerg and group cause that is what they do. So ZOS should be fixing the lag to allow this to happen and if they cant then the game is as good as dead in pvp. The pvp part of this game is dying due to the performance and the horrible implementation of the system and new ridiculous gear sets. You adjust to your clients if not then you clients will take their business somewhere else. Player will ALWAYS Zerg in ESO so find a way to allow it to work, people pay subs for you to fix the game and improve it.1 -
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I paying for ESO+ and i do prefer small scale, what I'm doing wrong?flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »to vicious death and clever alchemist? because of whats goin on in pvp?
literally a group of 3 mag nb can instant kill a whole zerg
Cause spreading out 5 meters from eachother is hard? What about the pug PVP players who have been steam rolled by the AOE zergs for several months?
I have had my fair share of deaths from VD, and I get irritated when I'm in a battle and people stack up close to me giving the NB a perfect target.
ZOS put in a bandaid fix, its common sense that people will zerg and people will be next to people. ZOS isnt fixing the core problem, its why people are leaving the game. ZOS is trying to FORCE a playstyle on players instead of fixing the problem and allowing players to play how they want to. Obviously people want to zerg and group cause that is what they do. So ZOS should be fixing the lag to allow this to happen and if they cant then the game is as good as dead in pvp. The pvp part of this game is dying due to the performance and the horrible implementation of the system and new ridiculous gear sets. You adjust to your clients if not then you clients will take their business somewhere else. Player will ALWAYS Zerg in ESO so find a way to allow it to work, people pay subs for you to fix the game and improve it.
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✭✭✭✭✭Sugaroverdose wrote: »
I paying for ESO+ and i do prefer small scale, what I'm doing wrong?flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »to vicious death and clever alchemist? because of whats goin on in pvp?
literally a group of 3 mag nb can instant kill a whole zerg
Cause spreading out 5 meters from eachother is hard? What about the pug PVP players who have been steam rolled by the AOE zergs for several months?
I have had my fair share of deaths from VD, and I get irritated when I'm in a battle and people stack up close to me giving the NB a perfect target.
ZOS put in a bandaid fix, its common sense that people will zerg and people will be next to people. ZOS isnt fixing the core problem, its why people are leaving the game. ZOS is trying to FORCE a playstyle on players instead of fixing the problem and allowing players to play how they want to. Obviously people want to zerg and group cause that is what they do. So ZOS should be fixing the lag to allow this to happen and if they cant then the game is as good as dead in pvp. The pvp part of this game is dying due to the performance and the horrible implementation of the system and new ridiculous gear sets. You adjust to your clients if not then you clients will take their business somewhere else. Player will ALWAYS Zerg in ESO so find a way to allow it to work, people pay subs for you to fix the game and improve it.
Nothing, but you must realize others like large scale, should be both in game.0 -
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✭No they will not be nerfing a set designed to bust Zergs that is busting Zergs. For once in two years working as intended. Finally I can say that with a straight face.Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.0 -
flguy147ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭ZOS put in a bandaid fix, its common sense that people will zerg and people will be next to people. ZOS isnt fixing the core problem, its why people are leaving the game. ZOS is trying to FORCE a playstyle on players instead of fixing the problem and allowing players to play how they want to. Obviously people want to zerg and group cause that is what they do. So ZOS should be fixing the lag to allow this to happen and if they cant then the game is as good as dead in pvp. The pvp part of this game is dying due to the performance and the horrible implementation of the system and new ridiculous gear sets. You adjust to your clients if not then you clients will take their business somewhere else. Player will ALWAYS Zerg in ESO so find a way to allow it to work, people pay subs for you to fix the game and improve it.
[/quote]I paying for ESO+ and i do prefer small scale, what I'm doing wrong?[/quote]
Actually i prefer smaller scale open world PVP over any type of PVP so i am totally with you on that. The problem is that it will never ever happen on a Regular basis in ESO. People Zerg in ESO and always will. They even reward you with the kill quests in Cyrodiil i am pretty sure by joining Zergs, you get the kills much faster therefore level up faster and get more gold faster and more AP.Edited by flguy147ub17_ESO on March 31, 2016 6:28PM0 -
Cinbri✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Why should they nerf VD and CA when they can nerf templars? Worked all the time before.1 -
Ch4mpTW✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why should they nerf VD and CA when they can nerf templars? Worked all the time before.
I agree with this post 100%. I mean seriously. Why should they? Templars with are right there, with their Dark Flare and Raidant Destruction. The only 2 useful things they have left, just about. And every time they nerf Templars, things get "fixed". So please. Don't nerf VD. Nerf Templars.
And for the record, this same logic was applied to Smash Bros. for Wii U and 3DS. "Oh ___ is broken/overpowered. Better nerf Greninja."Edited by Ch4mpTW on March 31, 2016 6:42PM1 -
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✭✭No they will not be nerfing a set designed to bust Zergs that is busting Zergs. For once in two years working as intended. Finally I can say that with a straight face.
You could if that's what it was doing, it's not, which makes me think you haven't pvp'd in a while. People are zerging as they have always done, and having a good time using this set to roll smaller groups or the very few that don't have the set. No wide spread zerg busting is happening due to this set.Edited by Callous2208 on March 31, 2016 6:43PM1 -
Thal✭✭✭I think a better answer would be to make the explosion aspect scale up based on number of players within radius of player versus every explosion being 15k, but that's just me
For example, 3k damage plus an additional 3k damage for every player within 10m radius up to 15k
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Xjcon✭✭✭✭✭I don't understand why the big groups are upset? If the players had got what they wanted and AOE caps were removed it wouldn't just be VD builds blowing up groups. Any Small group with good burst could drop in on a 24 man and blow them all up in a split second.
The big zerg is still at an advantage here.Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
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Chori✭✭✭✭Delicious tears, deliciousssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
Ok serious right now, the problem isnt vicious death people. How many times you have to die to a prox death zerg and even to a single person using it to burst you down... to realize what the issue is?. Lets just pretend that VD was not around and what would you have left still?...
The issue is not vicious death, the issue is magicka detonation and it's morphs and how much damage they do disregarding the almighty AOE caps and how much damage they even do to single targets..EP NA-PC - Invictus - Odem Mortis- Stamina NB Cat - ChoriB'Good
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LBxFinalDeath✭✭✭✭I don't think I've seen any big group players complain about Vicious Death.
Its the extremely small group players who get roflstomped from out of nowhere that are complaining mainly, oh look one friendly died next to me...oh look I'm near dead now....and theres the 24 different prox dets going off on me.
You get the picture.Edited by LBxFinalDeath on March 31, 2016 6:57PM3
