I am curious how snares and immobilizations are considered exploit?

Wollust wrote: »

I am curious how snares and immobilizations are considered exploit?

There's a skill glitch with the destruction staff skill immobilization that made it permanent in some cases and spammable

I am with you on A, should have been that way from the start of the game.

Messy1 wrote: »

3) Towards the end of the campaign it became apparent that DC players were spying on our location and doing everything to block my friend from becoming emperor.

Are you saying that spying is PvE? If not, I don't understand your objection to it in a PvP situation.

Messy1 wrote: »

Anyway, he eventually did become Emp on like the last day of the campaign after we outlasted the DC spies and AD exploiters, but it was an uphill battle and there was much drama.

So a good time was had by all?

*** the spies...

would you like a cookie for being a normal average player instead of a cheater?

To the OP, you give a very good example and reason as to why there will probably never be PVP justice in the game.

Given the opportunity to exploit, a small minority will ruin the game for the rest.

Casterial wrote: »

A) A player can only declare for one faction for each campaign duration
No. This causes MANY MANY people to delete toons that were stuck in a campaign and limiting out their toon. You can que with friends to any campaign as many PVPers have asked due to them removing the port to any campaign from friendslist, guild list etc. Stop the QQ man you got emperor and it is no easy task its pure politics.

What? There should be faction lock within the AVA system, whats preventing me from getting with people Killing them to farm AP then swapping to another faction to have them kill me? I could care less about the spying, but kill trading is not how the system is supposed to be used. And they can still port to a non home campaign they dont have a character in already

Spies? You mean sending a tell to a blue player (I am pact), "Where are "we" attacking?"

Reply, "-Uuum, Chalman I think?"

As a RPer, I so wish that ZOS had not locked that shade of red behind the emperor title. That is the only reason I would want it other than the costume. But I know that I will never get either. Not because I don't PVP as I am usually PVPing several hours a day, but I play to the map and campaign more than I ap farm. To me, Cyrodil is a huge game of Risk(tm). So, I congulate the person who became emp. It is no easy task.

Hopefully, some of the problems with the Emp title will be moving out with the next PVP game.

((I could have told you that the Emp is very political especially in the DC PVP community. I have seen the refusal in zone by large PVP guilds to not go to the last keep that is needed for emp just because they didn't want to crown an out of guild emp. I have heard of the agreements between that guild and the enemy to control the empship. I was told by a former guild officer before she left the guild to go take the group to the last emp keep and do nothing so we could take part of the AP from the Emp zerg that was turtled in the last emp keep.))

Gets emperor ...STILL calls it a conspiracy...

Messy1 wrote: »

rfennell_ESO wrote: »

Messy1 wrote: »

Hello,

So, my awesome friend in my guild decided to go hardcore PvP in Azura's Star this last campaign round to get himself Emperor and this is what happened:
*Please Note: We are a RP guild, we are all DC, we do not kill trade, we do not use exploits*

Seems not everyone assessed your friend as awesome, more like a lot of people didn't like him.

That's what tends to happen from what I've seen.

Lol, people didn't like him because he went for Emp and disrupted the status quo of PvP guilds that seemingly ran the show and crowned Emperors according to their agenda so he didn't really upset the good folks, just the bad folks who try to lock out other players.

Eh, I was just commenting on what I've witnessed.

Take it as you may, but typically it's not a "not part of the in crowd thing" but a "we really don't like that guy" thing.

Term limits. One trip to the throne per campaign on 30 day servers, one in 4 campaigns on 7-day servers. Now if you are on top they will emp push to get you off the list.

Was your RP guild a regular presence on the campaign prior to this emp push? If not, your within-faction rivals were likely (and to my eyes, reasonably) put off by your sudden presence on the campaign and presumption to the throne; it's courteous, not to mention practical, to communicate with your would-be allies in these situations and respect the work they've put into the campaign by attempting to work out an understanding. It's common practice to scratch one another's backs in a situation like: we help crown your guy, then you help crown ours. Your guild is not an island or the rightful inheritor of the campaign, and the diplomatic approach is rarely disregarded. If you tried this, cool, but you haven't indicated such, and your post contains so much conjecture and unlikely presumptions that I have to assume you did not.

It is furthermore extremely unlikely that anyone was "kill trading", because that is an insanely tedious and unnecessary exercise when you are already running in an organized group. For starters, a player's value in AP is reset when you kill them, and slowly climbs back up over a period of minutes; it would take forever to get a merely OK amount of AP from doing this. More likely, they defended a resource as a group and then everyone except the emp-to-be left the area in order for that one person to become the sole beneficiary of the AP tick.

Finally, you act as if it's suspicious that the emp and his guild disappeared after the dethrone, but that dude and his people must have been exhausted from a combination of outfaming your roleplay crew (since you did not negotiate an arrangement), crowning their own emp, and defending the throne from whatever goofy zerg is treating the non-cp camp as a buff server. They were pooped, and they weren't going to stick around and help a group that rolled into the server without so much as reaching out to them for help.

Seriously: an alliance lives or dies by their willingness to cooperate. I play on AD, and we just won our first campaign on Haderus in I don't even know how long because the guilds who play there (mine included) worked hard to foster an atmosphere of cooperation, mutual respect, and open communication that hasn't been seen within our faction in an era. This is how it should be.

You talk about people betraying your faction for selfish gains etc etc, but it reads like your group were outsiders to the campaign, unwilling to cooperate with existing organized forces, and that you arrived with an unwarranted expectation of success; when it did not come easily, you explained it to yourselves by shifting the blame to other players and claiming they exploited the game. That's more unsportsmanlike than anything you've described here.