So they announce PVP arenas and battlegrounds are coming and noone talks about it?
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✭✭✭Right it wasnt advertised that way but as with all mmos things change. Come to find out its practically impossible for some reason for them to solve the cyrodill problem with latency. I think for them battlegrounds and arenas are a way to take the load off cyrodill itself.
I dont own it so I dont know but is the lag in IC the same as the rest of cyrodill?0 -
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We'll take it as unsubstantiated opinion then.
I'm all in favour of ZOS fixing the PvP issues and adding more PvP content in PvP areas, but not PvPers exaggerating their numbers and importance.
I didnt claim anything as fact. And yet you ask me to back up a general statement to ensure it is a fact.
The game advertised Cyrodiil for large scale PVP and siege warfare. It wasnt built on arenas or dueling or battlegrounds. There wasnt much clamoring for these features when the game was releasing as well. People were happy to pursue the large scale PVP war that was shown in the cinematic videos. That is where the opinion comes from. There is more evidence to support this than there is against it.
So what numbers did I exaggerate? I dont even think youre talking about the same thing I am. I am talking about Cyrodiil vs battlegrounds.... you know, the topic of the thread? If you are talking about PVE vs PVP content, that is much more broad and not what my post had anything to do with. If youd like to take the counter position that players with an interest in PVP bought ESO for battlegrounds content go ahead - please provide evidence or simply argument to the point. If youre talking about PVE content, youve read things out of context.
So you meant that most PvPers (rather than most people) bought ESO for the large scale Cyrodiil siege battles? If so that's fine, but it's not what you said.1 -
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We'll take it as unsubstantiated opinion then.
I'm all in favour of ZOS fixing the PvP issues and adding more PvP content in PvP areas, but not PvPers exaggerating their numbers and importance.
I didnt claim anything as fact. And yet you ask me to back up a general statement to ensure it is a fact.
The game advertised Cyrodiil for large scale PVP and siege warfare. It wasnt built on arenas or dueling or battlegrounds. There wasnt much clamoring for these features when the game was releasing as well. People were happy to pursue the large scale PVP war that was shown in the cinematic videos. That is where the opinion comes from. There is more evidence to support this than there is against it.
So what numbers did I exaggerate? I dont even think youre talking about the same thing I am. I am talking about Cyrodiil vs battlegrounds.... you know, the topic of the thread? If you are talking about PVE vs PVP content, that is much more broad and not what my post had anything to do with. If youd like to take the counter position that players with an interest in PVP bought ESO for battlegrounds content go ahead - please provide evidence or simply argument to the point. If youre talking about PVE content, youve read things out of context.
So you meant that most PvPers (rather than most people) bought ESO for the large scale Cyrodiil siege battles? If so that's fine, but it's not what you said.
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We'll take it as unsubstantiated opinion then.
I'm all in favour of ZOS fixing the PvP issues and adding more PvP content in PvP areas, but not PvPers exaggerating their numbers and importance.
I didnt claim anything as fact. And yet you ask me to back up a general statement to ensure it is a fact.
The game advertised Cyrodiil for large scale PVP and siege warfare. It wasnt built on arenas or dueling or battlegrounds. There wasnt much clamoring for these features when the game was releasing as well. People were happy to pursue the large scale PVP war that was shown in the cinematic videos. That is where the opinion comes from. There is more evidence to support this than there is against it.
So what numbers did I exaggerate? I dont even think youre talking about the same thing I am. I am talking about Cyrodiil vs battlegrounds.... you know, the topic of the thread? If you are talking about PVE vs PVP content, that is much more broad and not what my post had anything to do with. If youd like to take the counter position that players with an interest in PVP bought ESO for battlegrounds content go ahead - please provide evidence or simply argument to the point. If youre talking about PVE content, youve read things out of context.
So you meant that most PvPers (rather than most people) bought ESO for the large scale Cyrodiil siege battles? If so that's fine, but it's not what you said.
Yea - I wrote a post about battlegrounds being announced and itd be a nice feature but I think most people would prefer to have a functional Cyrodiil as that is what most players (doing pvp) bought the game for (not for battlegrounds). Its a nice feature, but Cyro should be fixed.
With that said, I dont think Cyro will be fixed, and as a result I think arenas/battlegrounds are pretty poor future plans. They might as well stick with just making PVE content honestly - because there is little hope on making a happy success for players going to arena/battlegrounds. Balancing isnt done well so it will result in more problems. If they were willing to put more resources at it, itd be another story, but they are not.5 -
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✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Isnt this what people have been waiting for? I dont see a single thread about the announcement. Arenas and battlegrounds are being worked on and are coming. Discuss.
the discussion happend 6-8 months ago.
We'll take it as unsubstantiated opinion then.
I'm all in favour of ZOS fixing the PvP issues and adding more PvP content in PvP areas, but not PvPers exaggerating their numbers and importance.
I didnt claim anything as fact. And yet you ask me to back up a general statement to ensure it is a fact.
The game advertised Cyrodiil for large scale PVP and siege warfare. It wasnt built on arenas or dueling or battlegrounds. There wasnt much clamoring for these features when the game was releasing as well. People were happy to pursue the large scale PVP war that was shown in the cinematic videos. That is where the opinion comes from. There is more evidence to support this than there is against it.
So what numbers did I exaggerate? I dont even think youre talking about the same thing I am. I am talking about Cyrodiil vs battlegrounds.... you know, the topic of the thread? If you are talking about PVE vs PVP content, that is much more broad and not what my post had anything to do with. If youd like to take the counter position that players with an interest in PVP bought ESO for battlegrounds content go ahead - please provide evidence or simply argument to the point. If youre talking about PVE content, youve read things out of context.
So you meant that most PvPers (rather than most people) bought ESO for the large scale Cyrodiil siege battles? If so that's fine, but it's not what you said.
Yea - I wrote a post about battlegrounds being announced and itd be a nice feature but I think most people would prefer to have a functional Cyrodiil as that is what most players (doing pvp) bought the game for (not for battlegrounds). Its a nice feature, but Cyro should be fixed.
With that said, I dont think Cyro will be fixed, and as a result I think arenas/battlegrounds are pretty poor future plans. They might as well stick with just making PVE content honestly - because there is little hope on making a happy success for players going to arena/battlegrounds. Balancing isnt done well so it will result in more problems. If they were willing to put more resources at it, itd be another story, but they are not.
its actually the same copout route SWTOR picked, they couldn´t fix openworld pvp because of the used engine and thus created battlegrounds too...Edited by Tankqull on March 28, 2016 3:41PMspelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
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✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Isnt this what people have been waiting for? I dont see a single thread about the announcement. Arenas and battlegrounds are being worked on and are coming. Discuss.
the discussion happend 6-8 months ago.
THIS discussion is about the announcement they made march 25th tho.0 -
Lucious90✭✭✭Before anything Cyro needs to be fixed, hell over haul it, make it something similar to Wintergrasp in Wow, Id be ok with that if I can have a large scale fix without stupid lag and client crash everytime more than 5 people gather in an area. Rework stat priority, make Sorc Shields Critable (first thing that comes to mind as I play sorc) amongst other abilities. and make some traits like impen a bit more of a staple in PvP. Fix bugs
A rework of the CP system would be nice that can emcompass different builds.
As for arenas and BG, Ranked and unRanked that are tiered should work, no battle level crap. lvls 10-19 20-29 etc That way you're fighting at your level range and dont have to worry about being VR1 coming up against a VR16 with all gold gear maxed out. And yes there will be people that will min/max at the lower level tiers, its the nature of being competitive. ranked gives Rewards of the worthy maybe rework the loot table on that, and unranked gives AP. Allow premades, if you cant get a group or coordinate in match not my fault in BGs and Team creation for Arena, similar to a guild and run everything in 30 day "seasons" for the arena teams for 2v2 3v3 4v4.Xbox/NA
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I'm a fan of battlegrounds in the form of WoW's or even GW2, I'd like to see something similar here, but I love siege warfare, and zerg v zerg when neither side seems to back down over an area is the definition of PvP at it's greatest for me, if they'd sort the issues that comes with it ofc.0
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Lucious90✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »They've been "working on" a bunch of stuff for a while now.
Truth.... Not holding my breath on this, and if they are, I hope they pts the crap out of this to ensure it works, not sure if they do it now in regards to content.
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✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »They've been "working on" a bunch of stuff for a while now.
Truth.... Not holding my breath on this, and if they are, I hope they pts the crap out of this to ensure it works, not sure if they do it now in regards to content.
They'll bundle it in with some DLC that they rush out, and it will be riddled with bugs and exploits. That's just par for the course of how they release content. Release it, and sort out the bugs later when you have time between getting the next DLC ready for that deadline.Daggerfall Covenant
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We'll take it as unsubstantiated opinion then.
I'm all in favour of ZOS fixing the PvP issues and adding more PvP content in PvP areas, but not PvPers exaggerating their numbers and importance.
I didnt claim anything as fact. And yet you ask me to back up a general statement to ensure it is a fact.
The game advertised Cyrodiil for large scale PVP and siege warfare. It wasnt built on arenas or dueling or battlegrounds. There wasnt much clamoring for these features when the game was releasing as well. People were happy to pursue the large scale PVP war that was shown in the cinematic videos. That is where the opinion comes from. There is more evidence to support this than there is against it.
So what numbers did I exaggerate? I dont even think youre talking about the same thing I am. I am talking about Cyrodiil vs battlegrounds.... you know, the topic of the thread? If you are talking about PVE vs PVP content, that is much more broad and not what my post had anything to do with. If youd like to take the counter position that players with an interest in PVP bought ESO for battlegrounds content go ahead - please provide evidence or simply argument to the point. If youre talking about PVE content, youve read things out of context.
So you meant that most PvPers (rather than most people) bought ESO for the large scale Cyrodiil siege battles? If so that's fine, but it's not what you said.
Yea - I wrote a post about battlegrounds being announced and itd be a nice feature but I think most people would prefer to have a functional Cyrodiil as that is what most players (doing pvp) bought the game for (not for battlegrounds). Its a nice feature, but Cyro should be fixed.
With that said, I dont think Cyro will be fixed, and as a result I think arenas/battlegrounds are pretty poor future plans. They might as well stick with just making PVE content honestly - because there is little hope on making a happy success for players going to arena/battlegrounds. Balancing isnt done well so it will result in more problems. If they were willing to put more resources at it, itd be another story, but they are not.
With the addition of arenas to cyrodiil, it will give more incentive for ZOS to balance classes and attempt to fix the performance in cyrodiil becuase it might start making them money
where as right now there is no money being made, as you know, so they probably just dont care enough to fix it.
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We'll take it as unsubstantiated opinion then.
I'm all in favour of ZOS fixing the PvP issues and adding more PvP content in PvP areas, but not PvPers exaggerating their numbers and importance.
I didnt claim anything as fact. And yet you ask me to back up a general statement to ensure it is a fact.
The game advertised Cyrodiil for large scale PVP and siege warfare. It wasnt built on arenas or dueling or battlegrounds. There wasnt much clamoring for these features when the game was releasing as well. People were happy to pursue the large scale PVP war that was shown in the cinematic videos. That is where the opinion comes from. There is more evidence to support this than there is against it.
So what numbers did I exaggerate? I dont even think youre talking about the same thing I am. I am talking about Cyrodiil vs battlegrounds.... you know, the topic of the thread? If you are talking about PVE vs PVP content, that is much more broad and not what my post had anything to do with. If youd like to take the counter position that players with an interest in PVP bought ESO for battlegrounds content go ahead - please provide evidence or simply argument to the point. If youre talking about PVE content, youve read things out of context.
So you meant that most PvPers (rather than most people) bought ESO for the large scale Cyrodiil siege battles? If so that's fine, but it's not what you said.
Yea - I wrote a post about battlegrounds being announced and itd be a nice feature but I think most people would prefer to have a functional Cyrodiil as that is what most players (doing pvp) bought the game for (not for battlegrounds). Its a nice feature, but Cyro should be fixed.
With that said, I dont think Cyro will be fixed, and as a result I think arenas/battlegrounds are pretty poor future plans. They might as well stick with just making PVE content honestly - because there is little hope on making a happy success for players going to arena/battlegrounds. Balancing isnt done well so it will result in more problems. If they were willing to put more resources at it, itd be another story, but they are not.
With the addition of arenas to cyrodiil, it will give more incentive for ZOS to balance classes and attempt to fix the performance in cyrodiil becuase it might start making them money
where as right now there is no money being made, as you know, so they probably just dont care enough to fix it.
have some faith man stop bein so depressing
Hard to have faith when they've made the PvP part of the game worse pretty consistently for well over a year.
I think that's where Fengrush is coming from. People who have been around from the start have seen their attempts at balance and bug/performance fixing. It doesn't provide much confidence that the game will get better, mainly because it just simply hasn't already.Edited by Sallington on March 28, 2016 4:21PMDaggerfall Covenant
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Lucious90✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »Sallington wrote: »They've been "working on" a bunch of stuff for a while now.
Truth.... Not holding my breath on this, and if they are, I hope they pts the crap out of this to ensure it works, not sure if they do it now in regards to content.
They'll bundle it in with some DLC that they rush out, and it will be riddled with bugs and exploits. That's just par for the course of how they release content. Release it, and sort out the bugs later when you have time between getting the next DLC ready for that deadline.
And they just want to hit quota. So sad, just work the bugs out, do pts runs to ensure it works, dont F up the patching process presto insta good game
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With the addition of arenas to cyrodiil, it will give more incentive for ZOS to balance classes and attempt to fix the performance in cyrodiil becuase it might start making them money
where as right now there is no money being made, as you know, so they probably just dont care enough to fix it.
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They are already attempting to "balance" Classes w/o arenas or BG, to what results? VD and Proxy det meta, Stam players get the finger. AoE spamming still causing a lot of lag, both ball group and zerg busters. Shield Breaker seems laughable, these seem like knee jerk reactions that have been explained beforeEdited by Lucious90 on March 28, 2016 5:03PMXbox/NA
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We'll take it as unsubstantiated opinion then.
I'm all in favour of ZOS fixing the PvP issues and adding more PvP content in PvP areas, but not PvPers exaggerating their numbers and importance.
No one is exaggerating anything. The majority of people that came into this game in the beginning signed up for large scale pvp. Zos's entire marketing campaign substantiates it. Zos hired Blur to make 3 shorts whose story line revolves around three factions fighting for control of cyrodil. That is roughly more than a 100 million dollars on a marketing campaign that revolves
around pvp(Blur's price would be 25-30 million for each short). I've yet to see such marketing aimed towards any of the pve aspects of this game. Also by no means have I exaggerated the price tag. I've been working on game cinematics and commercials for 15 years, I'm well aware of the costs of such a campaign.Loki Ironheart
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Four-Six person PvP MOBA style delves
A PvP / PvE base raiding match. It would play out like a MOBA style gameplay. Players could PvE enemies along the way earning bonuses, or capture smaller points of interests that would give a perk, all of which leads to the enemy player’s base. You could theme the these smaller battles to fit into the general Cyridill war.
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Zen_RageSoul Shrivenrich.magab14a_ESO wrote: »
We'll take it as unsubstantiated opinion then.
I'm all in favour of ZOS fixing the PvP issues and adding more PvP content in PvP areas, but not PvPers exaggerating their numbers and importance.
No one is exaggerating anything. The majority of people that came into this game in the beginning signed up for large scale pvp. Zos's entire marketing campaign substantiates it. Zos hired Blur to make 3 shorts whose story line revolves around three factions fighting for control of cyrodil. That is roughly more than a 100 million dollars on a marketing campaign that revolves
around pvp(Blur's price would be 25-30 million for each short). I've yet to see such marketing aimed towards any of the pve aspects of this game. Also by no means have I exaggerated the price tag. I've been working on game cinematics and commercials for 15 years, I'm well aware of the costs of such a campaign.
What are you basing the word majority off of? I would like to see the link to the numbers....0 -
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Considering that was their MAIN selling point for pvp, and that is why MOST people bought the game. Yeah, I would say that is correct.0 -
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✭✭✭Arenas and Battlegrounds would bring life back into the PVP community. And I know you PVE players don't care about us but we would like some content too. (Waiting for someone to say ughhh you got imperial city) LMFAO XD
I have played a mmo with arenas and battlegrounds and it was very competitive. For the people that don't care about arenas or battlegrounds fine. You don't have to compete in them, but it would bring more people back to the game and add another endgame activity.
Thats what they said about pvp in wow and swtor....lets look at how that turned out as well.0 -
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✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Isnt this what people have been waiting for? I dont see a single thread about the announcement. Arenas and battlegrounds are being worked on and are coming. Discuss.
the discussion happend 6-8 months ago.
We'll take it as unsubstantiated opinion then.
I'm all in favour of ZOS fixing the PvP issues and adding more PvP content in PvP areas, but not PvPers exaggerating their numbers and importance.
I didnt claim anything as fact. And yet you ask me to back up a general statement to ensure it is a fact.
The game advertised Cyrodiil for large scale PVP and siege warfare. It wasnt built on arenas or dueling or battlegrounds. There wasnt much clamoring for these features when the game was releasing as well. People were happy to pursue the large scale PVP war that was shown in the cinematic videos. That is where the opinion comes from. There is more evidence to support this than there is against it.
So what numbers did I exaggerate? I dont even think youre talking about the same thing I am. I am talking about Cyrodiil vs battlegrounds.... you know, the topic of the thread? If you are talking about PVE vs PVP content, that is much more broad and not what my post had anything to do with. If youd like to take the counter position that players with an interest in PVP bought ESO for battlegrounds content go ahead - please provide evidence or simply argument to the point. If youre talking about PVE content, youve read things out of context.
So you meant that most PvPers (rather than most people) bought ESO for the large scale Cyrodiil siege battles? If so that's fine, but it's not what you said.
Yea - I wrote a post about battlegrounds being announced and itd be a nice feature but I think most people would prefer to have a functional Cyrodiil as that is what most players (doing pvp) bought the game for (not for battlegrounds). Its a nice feature, but Cyro should be fixed.
With that said, I dont think Cyro will be fixed, and as a result I think arenas/battlegrounds are pretty poor future plans. They might as well stick with just making PVE content honestly - because there is little hope on making a happy success for players going to arena/battlegrounds. Balancing isnt done well so it will result in more problems. If they were willing to put more resources at it, itd be another story, but they are not.
its actually the same copout route SWTOR picked, they couldn´t fix openworld pvp because of the used engine and thus created battlegrounds too...
They created arenas, not battlegrounds, battlegrounds were in there from the start. They abandoned BGs completely and focused soley on arenas after a point, which just murdered pvp all together. Went from hundreds and thousands playing to less than a few dozen REALLY quick.0 -
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Considering that was their MAIN selling point for pvp, and that is why MOST people bought the game. Yeah, I would say that is correct.
I dont think most poeple bought the game for pvp considering elder scrolls is a single player franchise. So while yes they did advertise the three factions those do not only apply to pvp. I know I didnt but it for pvp.0 -
Since it is a legitimate concern, can someone who is against Arenas and Battlegrounds tell me how it will make the game worse??My solution to Champion Point System here0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭rich.magab14a_ESO wrote: »
We'll take it as unsubstantiated opinion then.
I'm all in favour of ZOS fixing the PvP issues and adding more PvP content in PvP areas, but not PvPers exaggerating their numbers and importance.
No one is exaggerating anything. The majority of people that came into this game in the beginning signed up for large scale pvp.
I'll put the same question to you that I put earlier then. Is that your unsubtantiated opinion or are you able to produce the evidence to support that statement as fact?
You'll doubtless be aware that there was plenty of marketing for the PvE content, that the whole game was based around a single player series in which by definition PvP had no part, and that the original box featured four illustrated descriptions of the focus of the game, only one of which related to PvP.
Again, I'm fine with PvP and agree that a lot of players came into the game for the large scale PvP that was promoted, but let's not get carried away with statements about that being "the majority of people" unless that is qualified as a personal opinion or supported by evidence as fact.
Or are you also going to claim that when you said "the majority of people" you actually meant "the majority of PvPers"? That's where the exaggeration came in earlier, claiming something more than was subsequently conceded to be what was meant.1 -
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✭✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Isnt this what people have been waiting for? I dont see a single thread about the announcement. Arenas and battlegrounds are being worked on and are coming. Discuss.
the discussion happend 6-8 months ago.
We'll take it as unsubstantiated opinion then.
I'm all in favour of ZOS fixing the PvP issues and adding more PvP content in PvP areas, but not PvPers exaggerating their numbers and importance.
I didnt claim anything as fact. And yet you ask me to back up a general statement to ensure it is a fact.
The game advertised Cyrodiil for large scale PVP and siege warfare. It wasnt built on arenas or dueling or battlegrounds. There wasnt much clamoring for these features when the game was releasing as well. People were happy to pursue the large scale PVP war that was shown in the cinematic videos. That is where the opinion comes from. There is more evidence to support this than there is against it.
So what numbers did I exaggerate? I dont even think youre talking about the same thing I am. I am talking about Cyrodiil vs battlegrounds.... you know, the topic of the thread? If you are talking about PVE vs PVP content, that is much more broad and not what my post had anything to do with. If youd like to take the counter position that players with an interest in PVP bought ESO for battlegrounds content go ahead - please provide evidence or simply argument to the point. If youre talking about PVE content, youve read things out of context.
So you meant that most PvPers (rather than most people) bought ESO for the large scale Cyrodiil siege battles? If so that's fine, but it's not what you said.
Yea - I wrote a post about battlegrounds being announced and itd be a nice feature but I think most people would prefer to have a functional Cyrodiil as that is what most players (doing pvp) bought the game for (not for battlegrounds). Its a nice feature, but Cyro should be fixed.
With that said, I dont think Cyro will be fixed, and as a result I think arenas/battlegrounds are pretty poor future plans. They might as well stick with just making PVE content honestly - because there is little hope on making a happy success for players going to arena/battlegrounds. Balancing isnt done well so it will result in more problems. If they were willing to put more resources at it, itd be another story, but they are not.
its actually the same copout route SWTOR picked, they couldn´t fix openworld pvp because of the used engine and thus created battlegrounds too...
They created arenas, not battlegrounds, battlegrounds were in there from the start. They abandoned BGs completely and focused soley on arenas after a point, which just murdered pvp all together. Went from hundreds and thousands playing to less than a few dozen REALLY quick.
Ive played SWTOR since the first betas. You are exaggerating big time on how many people left. I still play it to this day with a large pvp guild.0 -
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✭✭✭mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »I'm pretty sure the guys was asked for this, are also those who wanted no cp campagin and we all know it ended.
I think thats a big problem with MMOs. This kind of change takes quite some time to implement. Usually the people asking for this stuff quit the game long before its developed. I wonder if they are hoping to bring people back with it once its completed.0 -
I never wanted a No CP campaign, except for BWB since it isn't vet. I called how it would turn outMy solution to Champion Point System here1
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✭✭✭✭✭Killa4hire89 wrote: »Wow, all you snowflakes whining because your OP FOTM build may get nerfed in the name of balance. Balance is a good thing. The only people not wanting arenas, duels, or frankly any kind of small scale PvP are zerglings and pugs. People have asked for it and it is a good change. Pve'ers and zerglings need to [snip]
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Thank you for this much needed reality check. There are a couple of guys in this thread badmouthing arenas as if nobody wants them.. LOL, what nonsense. Players have been begging for duels/arenas since the game launched!#CAREBEARMASTERRACE2
