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Abbreviations,..just a thought.
Volkodav
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Why do people need to use abbreviations in the forums so much? So many new players dont know what they are talking about.It would be good to allow them to learn things by using full words. It took me a long while to figure out what was being said a lot,and even now I still have things that people post which are so abbreviated I cant figure them out.Lol.
Just a thought.
Edited by Volkodav on March 27, 2016 9:46AM Just a thought.
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Garldeen✭✭✭✭I have the same issue with text messages. Forever texting back asking what did they mean. Must be my age... :'(4 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It varies, but basically because typing an abbreviation is faster.
Would you rather type out, "Veteran White Gold Tower" or "VWGT"?
Would you rather type out, "Woodworking" or "WW" or "Werewolf"?
Oh, wait...7 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Naaah,not age.Well,maybe we are getting bit old.We're from a time when bad grammar and bad spelling was not the thing to show intelligence. The young ones just seem unable to take time to type a full word anymore. XDEdited by Volkodav on March 27, 2016 11:09AM0 -
daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Why do people need to use abbreviations in the forums so much? So many new players dont know what they are talking about.It would be good to allow them to learn things by using full words. It took me a long while to figure out what was being said a lot,and even now I still have things that people post which are so abbreviated I cant figure them out.Lol.
Just a thought.
Google is your friend
If you're reading the forums, you're online and can google whatever acronym you come across. Some people in these forums have even made nice "dictionaries" you can bookmark:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136290/the-eso-slang-and-abbreviation-dictionary/p1
It just occurred to me, ZOS could sticky that post in the general comments section for easy reference. What say you, @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?Edited by daemonios on March 27, 2016 10:08AM2 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭starkerealm wrote: »It varies, but basically because typing an abbreviation is faster.
Would you rather type out, "Veteran White Gold Tower" or "VWGT"?
Would you rather type out, "Woodworking" or "WW" or "Werewolf"?
Oh, wait...
I'd rather type it out.Sorry,but that's what I was taught to do.1 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Why do people need to use abbreviations in the forums so much? So many new players dont know what they are talking about.It would be good to allow them to learn things by using full words. It took me a long while to figure out what was being said a lot,and even now I still have things that people post which are so abbreviated I cant figure them out.Lol.
Just a thought.
Google is your friend
If you're reading the forums, you're online and can google whatever acronym you come across. Some people in these forums have even made nice "dictionaries" you can bookmark:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136290/the-eso-slang-and-abbreviation-dictionary/p1
It just occurred to me, ZOS could sticky that post in the general comments section for easy reference. What say you, @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?
I'm not going to run to Google every single time some person abbreviates something! I'd spend all my time there instead.
Jeez.
(realizes she abbreviates Morrowind and Oblivion occasionally,and wont do it again.)Edited by Volkodav on March 27, 2016 10:13AM2 -
Buffler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why do people need to use abbreviations in the forums so much? So many new players dont know what they are talking about.It would be good to allow them to learn things by using full words. It took me a long while to figure out what was being said a lot,and even now I still have things that people post which are so abbreviated I cant figure them out.Lol.
Just a thought.
Google is your friend
If you're reading the forums, you're online and can google whatever acronym you come across. Some people in these forums have even made nice "dictionaries" you can bookmark:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136290/the-eso-slang-and-abbreviation-dictionary/p1
It just occurred to me, ZOS could sticky that post in the general comments section for easy reference. What say you, @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?
I'm not going to run to Google every single time some person abbreviates something! I'd spend all my time there instead.
Jeez.
(realizes she abbreviates Morrowind and Oblivion occasionally,and wont do it again.)
If you're not sure, just ask. Most people on here are normal....others will tell you to stop qq'ing , offer you no eta or just ask for all your stuff......maybe even tell you l2p0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »It varies, but basically because typing an abbreviation is faster.
Would you rather type out, "Veteran White Gold Tower" or "VWGT"?
Would you rather type out, "Woodworking" or "WW" or "Werewolf"?
Oh, wait...
I'd rather type it out.Sorry,but that's what I was taught to do.
*Watches the joke sail over Volkodav's head.*
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Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Why do people need to use abbreviations in the forums so much? So many new players dont know what they are talking about.It would be good to allow them to learn things by using full words. It took me a long while to figure out what was being said a lot,and even now I still have things that people post which are so abbreviated I cant figure them out.Lol.
Just a thought.
Google is your friend
If you're reading the forums, you're online and can google whatever acronym you come across. Some people in these forums have even made nice "dictionaries" you can bookmark:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136290/the-eso-slang-and-abbreviation-dictionary/p1
It just occurred to me, ZOS could sticky that post in the general comments section for easy reference. What say you, @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?
I'm not going to run to Google every single time some person abbreviates something! I'd spend all my time there instead.
Jeez.
(realizes she abbreviates Morrowind and Oblivion occasionally,and wont do it again.)
If you're not sure, just ask. Most people on here are normal....others will tell you to stop qq'ing , offer you no eta or just ask for all your stuff......maybe even tell you l2p
I've been in these forums for two years now,and asking isnt always a safe thing.It's hit and miss.Heck even posting about your own thoughts about the game can get you crucified. XD
Also,you cant just read the post and get on with it,you have to go find some website as suggested above to translate it all.
Kinda like saying L2P,which people hate.Edited by Volkodav on March 27, 2016 10:20AM1 -
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✭✭starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »It varies, but basically because typing an abbreviation is faster.
Would you rather type out, "Veteran White Gold Tower" or "VWGT"?
Would you rather type out, "Woodworking" or "WW" or "Werewolf"?
Oh, wait...
I'd rather type it out.Sorry,but that's what I was taught to do.
*Watches the joke sail over Volkodav's head.*
(._.)
Yes it did.Sorry.I get it now though.3 -
Buffler✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why do people need to use abbreviations in the forums so much? So many new players dont know what they are talking about.It would be good to allow them to learn things by using full words. It took me a long while to figure out what was being said a lot,and even now I still have things that people post which are so abbreviated I cant figure them out.Lol.
Just a thought.
Google is your friend
If you're reading the forums, you're online and can google whatever acronym you come across. Some people in these forums have even made nice "dictionaries" you can bookmark:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136290/the-eso-slang-and-abbreviation-dictionary/p1
It just occurred to me, ZOS could sticky that post in the general comments section for easy reference. What say you, @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?
I'm not going to run to Google every single time some person abbreviates something! I'd spend all my time there instead.
Jeez.
(realizes she abbreviates Morrowind and Oblivion occasionally,and wont do it again.)
If you're not sure, just ask. Most people on here are normal....others will tell you to stop qq'ing , offer you no eta or just ask for all your stuff......maybe even tell you l2p
I've been in these forums for two years now,and asking isnt always a safe thing.It's hit and miss.Heck even posting about your own thoughts about the game can get you crucified. XD
Also,you cant just read the post and get on with it,you have to go find some website as suggested above to translate it all.
Kinda like saying L2P,which people hate.
Nowadays just knowing what NERF means is enough to decipher 99% of posts on these forums0 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Why do people need to use abbreviations in the forums so much? So many new players dont know what they are talking about.It would be good to allow them to learn things by using full words. It took me a long while to figure out what was being said a lot,and even now I still have things that people post which are so abbreviated I cant figure them out.Lol.
Just a thought.
Google is your friend
If you're reading the forums, you're online and can google whatever acronym you come across. Some people in these forums have even made nice "dictionaries" you can bookmark:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136290/the-eso-slang-and-abbreviation-dictionary/p1
It just occurred to me, ZOS could sticky that post in the general comments section for easy reference. What say you, @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?
I'm not going to run to Google every single time some person abbreviates something! I'd spend all my time there instead.
Jeez.
(realizes she abbreviates Morrowind and Oblivion occasionally,and wont do it again.)
If you're not sure, just ask. Most people on here are normal....others will tell you to stop qq'ing , offer you no eta or just ask for all your stuff......maybe even tell you l2p
I've been in these forums for two years now,and asking isnt always a safe thing.It's hit and miss.Heck even posting about your own thoughts about the game can get you crucified. XD
Also,you cant just read the post and get on with it,you have to go find some website as suggested above to translate it all.
Kinda like saying L2P,which people hate.
Nowadays just knowing what NERF means is enough to decipher 99% of posts on these forums
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✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »It varies, but basically because typing an abbreviation is faster.
Would you rather type out, "Veteran White Gold Tower" or "VWGT"?
Would you rather type out, "Woodworking" or "WW" or "Werewolf"?
Oh, wait...
I'd rather type it out.Sorry,but that's what I was taught to do.
*Watches the joke sail over Volkodav's head.*
(._.)
Yes it did.Sorry.I get it now though.
It happens to us all occasionally.
To be fair, in game abbreviations tend to be a kind of improvised dialect that evolves naturally over time. It's about conveying information as quickly and efficiently as possible. Because, in games like ESO, that relates to keystrokes, abbreviations are the most apparent example. That said, there are others; like having to explain the term and concept of a tank to newbies.
If the game was primarily voice based, you'd probably see a slightly different shorthand emerging. I'm not sure what that would look... or, rather, sound like, specifically. But, it's a natural product of people needing to communicate information quickly.
Unfortunately, this does lead to a learning curve for people coming in from the outside. Which applies to game concepts in general.
That said, I get the irritation with people mauling the language beyond a few abbreviations. I'm right there. Even if I do forget to capitalize and punctuate the odd sentence in zone.0 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »It varies, but basically because typing an abbreviation is faster.
Would you rather type out, "Veteran White Gold Tower" or "VWGT"?
Would you rather type out, "Woodworking" or "WW" or "Werewolf"?
Oh, wait...
I'd rather type it out.Sorry,but that's what I was taught to do.
*Watches the joke sail over Volkodav's head.*
(._.)
Yes it did.Sorry.I get it now though.
It happens to us all occasionally.
To be fair, in game abbreviations tend to be a kind of improvised dialect that evolves naturally over time. It's about conveying information as quickly and efficiently as possible. Because, in games like ESO, that relates to keystrokes, abbreviations are the most apparent example. That said, there are others; like having to explain the term and concept of a tank to newbies.
If the game was primarily voice based, you'd probably see a slightly different shorthand emerging. I'm not sure what that would look... or, rather, sound like, specifically. But, it's a natural product of people needing to communicate information quickly.
Unfortunately, this does lead to a learning curve for people coming in from the outside. Which applies to game concepts in general.
That said, I get the irritation with people mauling the language beyond a few abbreviations. I'm right there. Even if I do forget to capitalize and punctuate the odd sentence in zone.
Oh,no.I mean here in the forums.0 -
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✭You only need to know what L2P means so that you can post it on every NERF thread :^)P.A.W.S. - Positively Against Wild Sasquatches - NO TO BIGFOOT!0 -
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Cant help it,I hate it when someone says that.Learn to Play.It's crap for your too F'in lazy to tell them they need to learn more to play better.See? That didnt take me no time to type.strikeback1247 wrote: »You only need to know what L2P means so that you can post it on every NERF thread :^)
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However,yes,it needs to be posted on e very NERF thread.LOL!Edited by Volkodav on March 27, 2016 10:44AM0 -
LostScot✭✭✭Why do people need to use abbreviations in the forums so much? So many new players dont know what they are talking about.It would be good to allow them to learn things by using full words. It took me a long while to figure out what was being said a lot,and even now I still have things that people post which are so abbreviated I cant figure them out.Lol.
Just a thought.
People like to use abbreviations for a number of reasons. Top of the list seems to be laziness, whether in terms of typing out the full name of something, or avoiding saying the full name on TeamSpeak. The other big reason for using acronyms is that a lot of people think they sound cooler when using them, and it allows them to be able to create an "us vs them" scenario, the haves (those who know what the acronym stands for) and the have-nots who are ridiculed for not knowing something that is apparently so obvious that even 3-year old children know it.
Any decent and genuinely considerate person takes the time to explain an acronym or abbreviation to others before beginning to use it regularly within a conversation.Craftaholics Guild, established 30th March 2014.0 -
daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
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There is value in abbreviations, hence why they've been used for centuries. No, they weren't born when millenials started murdering their respective languages with SMS/instant messaging. They may be a barrier to entry, but they're an easy one to overcome. I gave you 2 instruments in my previous reply - Google and other posts in the forums.Why do people need to use abbreviations in the forums so much? So many new players dont know what they are talking about.It would be good to allow them to learn things by using full words. It took me a long while to figure out what was being said a lot,and even now I still have things that people post which are so abbreviated I cant figure them out.Lol.
Just a thought.
Google is your friend
If you're reading the forums, you're online and can google whatever acronym you come across. Some people in these forums have even made nice "dictionaries" you can bookmark:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136290/the-eso-slang-and-abbreviation-dictionary/p1
It just occurred to me, ZOS could sticky that post in the general comments section for easy reference. What say you, @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?
I'm not going to run to Google every single time some person abbreviates something! I'd spend all my time there instead.
Jeez.
(realizes she abbreviates Morrowind and Oblivion occasionally,and wont do it again.)
It's OK that you don't want to go to Google every time you encounter a new term. But that's your choice. I disagree that everyone in the forums should cater to it.0 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes,there is value to abbreviations.I am not doubting this.However,many people in the forums dont know what the game abbreviations mean.
I just think it would be nice to let people in on the gamers dictionary.
Also,someone here commented to just ask,and I just did that on another thread and was told to L2R. We all know THIS one,dont we??Edited by Volkodav on March 28, 2016 10:31AM1 -
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There is value in abbreviations, hence why they've been used for centuries. No, they weren't born when millenials started murdering their respective languages with SMS/instant messaging. They may be a barrier to entry, but they're an easy one to overcome. I gave you 2 instruments in my previous reply - Google and other posts in the forums.Why do people need to use abbreviations in the forums so much? So many new players dont know what they are talking about.It would be good to allow them to learn things by using full words. It took me a long while to figure out what was being said a lot,and even now I still have things that people post which are so abbreviated I cant figure them out.Lol.
Just a thought.
Google is your friend
If you're reading the forums, you're online and can google whatever acronym you come across. Some people in these forums have even made nice "dictionaries" you can bookmark:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/136290/the-eso-slang-and-abbreviation-dictionary/p1
It just occurred to me, ZOS could sticky that post in the general comments section for easy reference. What say you, @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom ?
I'm not going to run to Google every single time some person abbreviates something! I'd spend all my time there instead.
Jeez.
(realizes she abbreviates Morrowind and Oblivion occasionally,and wont do it again.)
It's OK that you don't want to go to Google every time you encounter a new term. But that's your choice. I disagree that everyone in the forums should cater to it.
It isnt catering.
It's giving a crap that others will understand what you are saying.Just a common courtesy is all.
No one HAS to stop abbreviating,but it would be nice for newbies to understand the comments in the forums.
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daemonios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes,there is value to abbreviations.I am not doubting this.However,many people in the forums dont know what the game abbreviations mean.
I just think ot would be nice to let people in on the gamers dictionary.
Also,someone here commented to just ask,and I just did that on another thread and was told to L2R. We all know THIS one,dont we??
I'd say that's a different issue. I try not to assume everyone knows what I'm talking about and will explain myself if asked. But people are people, and some of them are a bit... grumpy, to put it mildly 0 -
Buffler✭✭✭✭✭
✭If someone asked on a thread what a certain abbreviation meant and they got grief for asking, then I'd be the first person to defend them. I've always been taught that if you dont understand then ask.1 -
stewhead2ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭".We're from a time when bad grammer and bad spelling was not the thing to show intelligence. "
Umm "grammar"...please continue. (lol just couldn't help myself!)
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✭✭stewhead2ub17_ESO wrote: »".We're from a time when bad grammer and bad spelling was not the thing to show intelligence. "
Umm "grammar"...please continue. (lol just couldn't help myself!)
I know! LOL! I just saw that.Heehee! Well found,I say!
(and corrected) XDEdited by Volkodav on March 27, 2016 11:10AM0 -
starkerealm✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »It varies, but basically because typing an abbreviation is faster.
Would you rather type out, "Veteran White Gold Tower" or "VWGT"?
Would you rather type out, "Woodworking" or "WW" or "Werewolf"?
Oh, wait...
I'd rather type it out.Sorry,but that's what I was taught to do.
*Watches the joke sail over Volkodav's head.*
(._.)
Yes it did.Sorry.I get it now though.
It happens to us all occasionally.
To be fair, in game abbreviations tend to be a kind of improvised dialect that evolves naturally over time. It's about conveying information as quickly and efficiently as possible. Because, in games like ESO, that relates to keystrokes, abbreviations are the most apparent example. That said, there are others; like having to explain the term and concept of a tank to newbies.
If the game was primarily voice based, you'd probably see a slightly different shorthand emerging. I'm not sure what that would look... or, rather, sound like, specifically. But, it's a natural product of people needing to communicate information quickly.
Unfortunately, this does lead to a learning curve for people coming in from the outside. Which applies to game concepts in general.
That said, I get the irritation with people mauling the language beyond a few abbreviations. I'm right there. Even if I do forget to capitalize and punctuate the odd sentence in zone.
Oh,no.I mean here in the forums.
Sorry about the delay, I had to deal with a fit of unconsciousness.
Anyway, it's probably worth remembering the forum draws it's population from the game, so, you're going to see the specialized dialect (abbreviations and all) wander over.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Yo dawg. Ya gotta learn the lingo of da Eee Es Oh and up your street cred, home skillet.
Peeps be slinging dat abbevs on da forum like gangsta g mac daddy. L2P on dat proper
I'm outtie 5000. Peace.
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