Please split the PvP code.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · March 2016

It has been stated on ESO Live that changed to PvP servers have to happen to all servers and this is really killing the servers you try to change to meet player demand. We wanted gated Imperial City one campaign was made gated and was capped by one side that would Zerg even a resource just so they could farm IC with unholy stones multipliers.

This multiplier is great when you can run it to enemies it keeps you on edge but when you can farm with no fear it's game breaking as you could get a near unlimited amount if stones. The Ter Var multiplier should have been modified to account for this.
That camp was removed one NA PC at least seemingly for that reason.

The same is happening now with the Non CP camp it's boring and near unplayable the changes to all power's cost to account for the Champion System are still in play. Attack, heals and effects were made more expensive cause of the cost reduction stars. Stamina defenses like blocking and rolling it trash without CP no block or roll cost reductions or stamina recovery boost yet it has the same penalties that are in place for the CP system.

You can't just Gate access a campaign or just turn off CP if you changed the base game or if you don't change the DLC's base code. Non CP camps are taking the games CP penalties to keep the system relatively while taking none of the benefits. If you want a change to work you have to do something adjust the cost of abilities without the champion system.

MaxwellC · March 2016

the main issue is server calculation when it comes into contact with players and a Cyrodiil real time loading instead of a section by section of cyrodiil loading.

AoE caps explaining how removing it would significantly decrease lag has a forum with legit analysis on their were supposedly a ZOS employee(s) read it and that's it.

ku5h · March 2016

I find second part of your comment, about no CP campaign completely oposite of what i think. Actually i find new Azura amazing, probably best thing that happened in PvP for over a year. There is no more, everyone has everything. I could have 5k WD with 2.5k stamina and 1.5 mag regen. I could gank ppl with 2 shots and sustain myself indefenetly in fights. Now with no CP you can go one or the other, but not both, and that is what we needed.

P.S. Remember how so many ppl asked for "Bring back soft caps, its stupid we can stack all our stats so high.", and when they brought no CP Azura, most of them fled to Trueflame and Ebon, because they cant play without their CPs.

sirrmattus · March 2016

ku5h wrote: »

I find second part of your comment, about no CP campaign completely oposite of what i think. Actually i find new Azura amazing, probably best thing that happened in PvP for over a year. There is no more, everyone has everything. I could have 5k WD with 2.5k stamina and 1.5 mag regen. I could gank ppl with 2 shots and sustain myself indefenetly in fights. Now with no CP you can go one or the other, but not both, and that is what we needed.

prove it. i call bs

@ku5h

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · March 2016

ku5h wrote: »

I find second part of your comment, about no CP campaign completely oposite of what i think. Actually i find new Azura amazing, probably best thing that happened in PvP for over a year. There is no more, everyone has everything. I could have 5k WD with 2.5k stamina and 1.5 mag regen. I could gank ppl with 2 shots and sustain myself indefenetly in fights. Now with no CP you can go one or the other, but not both, and that is what we needed.

You're in the minority that campaign never has much happening you always see it at two maybe three bars when True Flames has three locked bars. A lot of people wanted a cp free campaign then hated the non cp campaign with the increase cost of everything it makes the game harder for non min max races.

All cost outside of ultimates were increased with a sight decrease in recovery now take into account the change to rolling and blocking and you have the reason Azura's Star is the driest campaign.

Ganking takes little resources you get tre jump on them and have time to buff up its not a resource intensive role till you get outnumbered.

ku5h · March 2016

sirrmattus wrote: »

ku5h wrote: »

I find second part of your comment, about no CP campaign completely oposite of what i think. Actually i find new Azura amazing, probably best thing that happened in PvP for over a year. There is no more, everyone has everything. I could have 5k WD with 2.5k stamina and 1.5 mag regen. I could gank ppl with 2 shots and sustain myself indefenetly in fights. Now with no CP you can go one or the other, but not both, and that is what we needed.

prove it. i call bs

@ku5h

Are you kidding. Bosmer NB with 5 hunding, 3 Night mother, 1 Kena, 3 agility(dmg glyphs on jewls+1 weapond dmg glyph on weap). Warrior mundus and purple drink. Minor/major endurance buffs on from pots/R. Focus, Rally for M. Brutality and Supernatural recovery from vamp. I see you have bosmer Nb so you can try it out easily, ofc all gear/glyphs gold.

Egonieser · March 2016

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

ku5h wrote: »

I find second part of your comment, about no CP campaign completely oposite of what i think. Actually i find new Azura amazing, probably best thing that happened in PvP for over a year. There is no more, everyone has everything. I could have 5k WD with 2.5k stamina and 1.5 mag regen. I could gank ppl with 2 shots and sustain myself indefenetly in fights. Now with no CP you can go one or the other, but not both, and that is what we needed.

You're in the minority that campaign never has much happening you always see it at two maybe three bars when True Flames has three locked bars. A lot of people wanted a cp free campaign then hated the non cp campaign with the increase cost of everything it makes the game harder for non min max races.

All cost outside of ultimates were increased with a sight decrease in recovery now take into account the change to rolling and blocking and you have the reason Azura's Star is the driest campaign.

Ganking takes little resources you get tre jump on them and have time to buff up its not a resource intensive role till you get outnumbered.

On EU, Azura is just as populated as Trueflame - which only means one thing, the player base very happily loves to PvP without CP, it also is a huge benefit to new players (never seen the amount of fresh blood in Cyro as after the TG PvP changes) as they are not instantly greeted with min/maxers with capped CP and cheesy one shot mechanics.
One-shots no longer happen, sustaining is now key.
Like I said in my own topic

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · April 2016

Egonieser wrote: »

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

ku5h wrote: »

I find second part of your comment, about no CP campaign completely oposite of what i think. Actually i find new Azura amazing, probably best thing that happened in PvP for over a year. There is no more, everyone has everything. I could have 5k WD with 2.5k stamina and 1.5 mag regen. I could gank ppl with 2 shots and sustain myself indefenetly in fights. Now with no CP you can go one or the other, but not both, and that is what we needed.

You're in the minority that campaign never has much happening you always see it at two maybe three bars when True Flames has three locked bars. A lot of people wanted a cp free campaign then hated the non cp campaign with the increase cost of everything it makes the game harder for non min max races.

All cost outside of ultimates were increased with a sight decrease in recovery now take into account the change to rolling and blocking and you have the reason Azura's Star is the driest campaign.

Ganking takes little resources you get tre jump on them and have time to buff up its not a resource intensive role till you get outnumbered.

On EU, Azura is just as populated as Trueflame - which only means one thing, the player base very happily loves to PvP without CP, it also is a huge benefit to new players (never seen the amount of fresh blood in Cyro as after the TG PvP changes) as they are not instantly greeted with min/maxers with capped CP and cheesy one shot mechanics.
One-shots no longer happen, sustaining is now key.
Like I said in my own topic

This is sadly not the case on PC NA.

Saltypretzels · April 2016

Writing "code" in the subject line is the quickest way to get ignored by everyone. Sure, let's just split the code, whatever that even means. I'll just boot up the computers and split it. Job done.

tinythinker · April 2016

ku5h wrote: »

P.S. Remember how so many ppl asked for "Bring back soft caps, its stupid we can stack all our stats so high.", and when they brought no CP Azura, most of them fled to Trueflame and Ebon, because they cant play without their CPs.

Well, a lot of people left, then more did even if it seemed fun because there was no one to play with, and on PC-NA it was all yellow with sporadic revolts by blue and red.

FENGRUSH · April 2016

Saltypretzels wrote: »

Writing "code" in the subject line is the quickest way to get ignored by everyone. Sure, let's just split the code, whatever that even means. I'll just boot up the computers and split it. Job done.

Thank you for taking the initiative on splitting the code! Could you help me sort out my mail when you are done?

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · May 2016

Saltypretzels wrote: »

Writing "code" in the subject line is the quickest way to get ignored by everyone. Sure, let's just split the code, whatever that even means. I'll just boot up the computers and split it. Job done.

Splitting the code is on live Camps with CP and does without and Battle Spirit is the same. Making a change to the base coding for attacks, heal and stats values from camp to camp and PvP to PvE is already a code split.

That what it was called in my computer science class so that what I know it as.

DDemon · May 2016

This could all be solved by having 2 templates for your characters. 1 template for pve and one for pvp. This could even allow for CP scaling. (People would get extra CP on the pvp template, but only that template.)

Not only would it solve the whole he has CP I don't debate, but will allow for differently morphed skills and CP layouts on pvp and pve.

americansteel · May 2016

FENGRUSH wrote: »

Saltypretzels wrote: »

Writing "code" in the subject line is the quickest way to get ignored by everyone. Sure, let's just split the code, whatever that even means. I'll just boot up the computers and split it. Job done.

Thank you for taking the initiative on splitting the code! Could you help me sort out my mail when you are done?

hahahaha. nice

GivvumBoane · May 2016

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

It has been stated on ESO Live that changed to PvP servers have to happen to all servers and this is really killing the servers you try to change to meet player demand. We wanted gated Imperial City one campaign was made gated and was capped by one side that would Zerg even a resource just so they could farm IC with unholy stones multipliers.

This multiplier is great when you can run it to enemies it keeps you on edge but when you can farm with no fear it's game breaking as you could get a near unlimited amount if stones. The Ter Var multiplier should have been modified to account for this.
That camp was removed one NA PC at least seemingly for that reason.

The same is happening now with the Non CP camp it's boring and near unplayable the changes to all power's cost to account for the Champion System are still in play. Attack, heals and effects were made more expensive cause of the cost reduction stars. Stamina defenses like blocking and rolling it trash without CP no block or roll cost reductions or stamina recovery boost yet it has the same penalties that are in place for the CP system.

You can't just Gate access a campaign or just turn off CP if you changed the base game or if you don't change the DLC's base code. Non CP camps are taking the games CP penalties to keep the system relatively while taking none of the benefits. If you want a change to work you have to do something adjust the cost of abilities without the champion system.

This post suffers from a serious lack of punctuation. I can't even read this jumbled up nonsense.