Safebox impressions post 2.3.7

Reorx_Holybeard · March 2016

lordrichter wrote: »

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

There are master chests?

Could be a sarcastic response, but just wanted to chime in that it is almost never worth it to pick a master chest. They are rare, the loot is the same, or close enough so as to be indistinguishable from the rest, the XP is the same, and the 4 points of legerdemain are easier to get from four simple chests or two intermediate ones. Once you master (pun intended) the lock picking, master chests are just annoying.

It is like chests are bugged, in general, but I suspect that they are that way on purpose. If they ever changed them to make the loot more appropriate to the chest, they would change the spawn rate to "compensate". Chests would be so rare that most people would think they had been removed from the game.

I'm glad I'm not the only that noticed this. Master chests rarely provide anything nice when I open them which is strange considering how rare they are (I've found probably less than 20 in the 2 years playing). I'm much more excited when I find Advanced chests as they are much more common and getting a set item or a treasure map from this is more usual. I think I've gotten more treasure maps from Simple chests than I have from Master ones.

And speaking of Master.... I found and opened a Master Safebox yesterday and got a whole 78 gold and one green item. "Underwhelming" is a good word to describe the feeling.

phreatophile · March 2016

Not finding that the spawn rate is noticeably improved but the quality of what's inside is in the toilet now.

staracino_ESO · March 2016

Only select nodes within a given area are respawning frequently. The large majority of them seem to "break" if they are opened too often, and then do not respawn for 10+ minutes.
I am also sad that this means the epic treasures are now going to be virtually non-existent. I have gotten 2-3 from pickpocketing and containers, but the majority have come from boxes. With the reduced loot quality I have given up hope for getting the ones that I really want.

danno8 · March 2016

Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

There are master chests?

Could be a sarcastic response, but just wanted to chime in that it is almost never worth it to pick a master chest. They are rare, the loot is the same, or close enough so as to be indistinguishable from the rest, the XP is the same, and the 4 points of legerdemain are easier to get from four simple chests or two intermediate ones. Once you master (pun intended) the lock picking, master chests are just annoying.

It is like chests are bugged, in general, but I suspect that they are that way on purpose. If they ever changed them to make the loot more appropriate to the chest, they would change the spawn rate to "compensate". Chests would be so rare that most people would think they had been removed from the game.

I'm glad I'm not the only that noticed this. Master chests rarely provide anything nice when I open them which is strange considering how rare they are (I've found probably less than 20 in the 2 years playing). I'm much more excited when I find Advanced chests as they are much more common and getting a set item or a treasure map from this is more usual. I think I've gotten more treasure maps from Simple chests than I have from Master ones.

And speaking of Master.... I found and opened a Master Safebox yesterday and got a whole 78 gold and one green item. "Underwhelming" is a good word to describe the feeling.

Not sure I have ever seen a Master safe box. Master chests sure, but not safe boxes.

Anyway, like others have said their seems to be a very small correlation between lock difficulty and quality of content for safeboxes. So much so that I don't even notice the lock difficulty when approaching them. It is (was) wise to open all of them because even "simple" safeboxes have (had) blues/double blues in them.

I do notice a difference in quality in treasure chests however.

willymchilybily · March 2016

staracino_ESO wrote: »

Only select nodes within a given area are respawning frequently. The large majority of them seem to "break" if they are opened too often, and then do not respawn for 10+ minutes.
I am also sad that this means the epic treasures are now going to be virtually non-existent. I have gotten 2-3 from pickpocketing and containers, but the majority have come from boxes. With the reduced loot quality I have given up hope for getting the ones that I really want.

Aren't epic treasures just to be resold for a bit more money again or is there genuinely something special about them and collecting them?

All these changes have put a slight damper on my excitement as PS4 have only today got access to the DLC. And i was just getting into my thievery these past few weeks. Odd that a thievery DLC is making me less excited about stealing not more excited.

I think this is one DLC i wont buy outright until ive decided if its worth the price tag first hand with my ESO plus running.

Nestor · March 2016

willymchilybily wrote: »

Aren't epic treasures just to be resold for a bit more money again or is there genuinely something special about them and collecting them?

While it would be nice to launder them and collect the Epics, the underlying limitations in bag space preclude that. So, I just sell mine, and now they are 1500 gold. Thing is, I found one in a Safe Box, two nights ago. Before that, it was near after the release of the Justice System that I saw my last Purple, and I think I found about 4 during that time. Between those times, nothing on 6 characters I was leveling through Legerdemain.

Duiwel · March 2016

RNG OP - while they lowered the quality I tend to get some nice items still sometimes multiple greens and a blue just steal more

They want us to let our inner Khajiit out!

starkerealm · March 2016

danno8 wrote: »

Reorx_Holybeard wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

There are master chests?

Could be a sarcastic response, but just wanted to chime in that it is almost never worth it to pick a master chest. They are rare, the loot is the same, or close enough so as to be indistinguishable from the rest, the XP is the same, and the 4 points of legerdemain are easier to get from four simple chests or two intermediate ones. Once you master (pun intended) the lock picking, master chests are just annoying.

It is like chests are bugged, in general, but I suspect that they are that way on purpose. If they ever changed them to make the loot more appropriate to the chest, they would change the spawn rate to "compensate". Chests would be so rare that most people would think they had been removed from the game.

I'm glad I'm not the only that noticed this. Master chests rarely provide anything nice when I open them which is strange considering how rare they are (I've found probably less than 20 in the 2 years playing). I'm much more excited when I find Advanced chests as they are much more common and getting a set item or a treasure map from this is more usual. I think I've gotten more treasure maps from Simple chests than I have from Master ones.

And speaking of Master.... I found and opened a Master Safebox yesterday and got a whole 78 gold and one green item. "Underwhelming" is a good word to describe the feeling.

Not sure I have ever seen a Master safe box. Master chests sure, but not safe boxes.

Anyway, like others have said their seems to be a very small correlation between lock difficulty and quality of content for safeboxes. So much so that I don't even notice the lock difficulty when approaching them. It is (was) wise to open all of them because even "simple" safeboxes have (had) blues/double blues in them.

I do notice a difference in quality in treasure chests however.

Master strongboxes seem to be most common in banks.

Teridaxus · March 2016

lordrichter wrote: »

mzapkeneb18_ESO wrote: »

There are master chests?

Could be a sarcastic response, but just wanted to chime in that it is almost never worth it to pick a master chest. They are rare, the loot is the same, or close enough so as to be indistinguishable from the rest, the XP is the same, and the 4 points of legerdemain are easier to get from four simple chests or two intermediate ones. Once you master (pun intended) the lock picking, master chests are just annoying.

It is like chests are bugged, in general, but I suspect that they are that way on purpose. If they ever changed them to make the loot more appropriate to the chest, they would change the spawn rate to "compensate". Chests would be so rare that most people would think they had been removed from the game.

Thanks for the answer.
Not sarcastic here. Only saw a few advanced chests since i started to play and assumed that master still need to be added with maybe special rewards since this game lack so many basic features, both as mmo and as es game.
Well...that sounds terrible what you say about their rewards....or rather lack of rewards.

TotterTates · March 2016

@lordrichter I picked the master lockbox in the wayrest bank yesterday with an 80k bounty... got a single green and 55 gold... so guuuddd.

starkerealm · March 2016

TotterTates wrote: »

@lordrichter I picked the master lockbox in the wayrest bank yesterday with an 80k bounty... got a single green and 55 gold... so guuuddd.

You went into the Wayrest bank with an 80k bounty? My hat's off to you. That takes some serious spherical objects.

TotterTates · March 2016

starkerealm wrote: »

TotterTates wrote: »

@lordrichter I picked the master lockbox in the wayrest bank yesterday with an 80k bounty... got a single green and 55 gold... so guuuddd.

You went into the Wayrest bank with an 80k bounty? My hat's off to you. That takes some serious spherical objects.

Forgot to mention I ended up getting wrecked and losing 12k worth of stolen goodies. DKs are not built for stealth in tiny places LOL.

starkerealm · March 2016

TotterTates wrote: »

starkerealm wrote: »

TotterTates wrote: »

@lordrichter I picked the master lockbox in the wayrest bank yesterday with an 80k bounty... got a single green and 55 gold... so guuuddd.

You went into the Wayrest bank with an 80k bounty? My hat's off to you. That takes some serious spherical objects.

Forgot to mention I ended up getting wrecked and losing 12k worth of stolen goodies. DKs are not built for stealth in tiny places LOL.

Yep... that's why I avoid it. The Wayrest bank is a freakin' deathtrap if you have a bounty. It's not even just a DK thing.

staracino_ESO · March 2016

Just in case some of you don't know, unlike Treasure chests, the difficulty of a particular lockbox node is set in stone. So the box will always be the same every time it spawns. Off the top of my head, I know there is a master box in Riften bank, 2 in Evermore bank, 1 in Marbruk bank, 1 in observatory in Craglorn, and some more I forgot.

About the epics, they are not special as far as gameplay goes, but they are actual major lore items. I have a Bolt from the Numidium, a Petal from the Sanguine Rose, a Ticket to the Crimson Ship, Lamae Bal's Ashes, and some others. As a lore freak I just enjoy having them. I really want the Haft Shard from Sunder but I will probably never get it now.

daemonios · March 2016

Nestor wrote: »

willymchilybily wrote: »

Aren't epic treasures just to be resold for a bit more money again or is there genuinely something special about them and collecting them?

While it would be nice to launder them and collect the Epics, the underlying limitations in bag space preclude that. So, I just sell mine, and now they are 1500 gold. Thing is, I found one in a Safe Box, two nights ago. Before that, it was near after the release of the Justice System that I saw my last Purple, and I think I found about 4 during that time. Between those times, nothing on 6 characters I was leveling through Legerdemain.

Found 2 purples today... Hadn't found one in a loooong time. I wonder if they stealth-fixed something that was preventing purple drops?

danno8 · March 2016

daemonios wrote: »

Nestor wrote: »

willymchilybily wrote: »

Aren't epic treasures just to be resold for a bit more money again or is there genuinely something special about them and collecting them?

While it would be nice to launder them and collect the Epics, the underlying limitations in bag space preclude that. So, I just sell mine, and now they are 1500 gold. Thing is, I found one in a Safe Box, two nights ago. Before that, it was near after the release of the Justice System that I saw my last Purple, and I think I found about 4 during that time. Between those times, nothing on 6 characters I was leveling through Legerdemain.

Found 2 purples today... Hadn't found one in a loooong time. I wonder if they stealth-fixed something that was preventing purple drops?

I've found one purple ever.

Ever.

You'd think they would be worth 50k or something. Pretty sure it was 1500?

Arthmoor · March 2016

I've only ever seen 2 purples from chests. Both of them were a really long time ago. Might even have been on the same night.

Psiion · July 2021

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