wrecking blow

Reapor · March 2016

i gotta put this out there i was looking at the "do u like this patch thread"

all im seeing is

WAAAAAA i cant WB>CR>WB and win WAAAAA

/discuss

DjKahun · March 2016

I constantly use WB on my stamplar just for the jokes lol! Prefer biting jabs over WB but it's just funny using WB don't know why just that feeling of crit rushing and wrecking blowing is funny

Vangy · March 2016

So much salt.... Seems like someone took too many wbs in the face... For the record.. it still works lol. I still can WB>leap and pretty much end 90% of the cheese 40k magicka 7/7 light armour builds that plague cyrodill right now..

D0ntevenL1ft · March 2016

Vangy wrote: »

So much salt.... Seems like someone took too many wbs in the face... For the record.. it still works lol. I still can WB>leap and pretty much end 90% of the cheese 40k magicka 7/7 light armour builds that plague cyrodill right now..

Gotta love when people switch to FOTM and suck at it. WB>Leap>Execute will never get old. STAM UNITE.

leepalmer95 · March 2016

Vangy wrote: »

So much salt.... Seems like someone took too many wbs in the face... For the record.. it still works lol. I still can WB>leap and pretty much end 90% of the cheese 40k magicka 7/7 light armour builds that plague cyrodill right now..

What kind of magicka build uses 7/7 light armour? xD

Reapor · March 2016

Vangy wrote: »

So much salt.... Seems like someone took too many wbs in the face... For the record.. it still works lol. I still can WB>leap and pretty much end 90% of the cheese 40k magicka 7/7 light armour builds that plague cyrodill right now..

oh no dont get me wrong i use wrecking blow some times i was laughing at the whole ZOMG IT ONLY DOES 6/7K DAMAGE NOW MAN I CANT 3 SHOT SCUBS thing thats going on =D

Vangy · March 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

So much salt.... Seems like someone took too many wbs in the face... For the record.. it still works lol. I still can WB>leap and pretty much end 90% of the cheese 40k magicka 7/7 light armour builds that plague cyrodill right now..

What kind of magicka build uses 7/7 light armour? xD

You'd be suprised hahaha. Cyro is full of suprises.

Vangy · March 2016

Reapor wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

So much salt.... Seems like someone took too many wbs in the face... For the record.. it still works lol. I still can WB>leap and pretty much end 90% of the cheese 40k magicka 7/7 light armour builds that plague cyrodill right now..

oh no dont get me wrong i use wrecking blow some times i was laughing at the whole ZOMG IT ONLY DOES 6/7K DAMAGE NOW MAN I CANT 3 SHOT SCUBS thing thats going on =D

Hmm so you say. But I can taste the salt in my mouth when I read your OP.... Maybe you might wanna reword it if this is truly how you feel.

Maybe im wrong but on a sidenote, im pretty sure my WB still hits for well over 7k lol... Like well over.

Durham · March 2016

Vangy wrote: »

Reapor wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

So much salt.... Seems like someone took too many wbs in the face... For the record.. it still works lol. I still can WB>leap and pretty much end 90% of the cheese 40k magicka 7/7 light armour builds that plague cyrodill right now..

oh no dont get me wrong i use wrecking blow some times i was laughing at the whole ZOMG IT ONLY DOES 6/7K DAMAGE NOW MAN I CANT 3 SHOT SCUBS thing thats going on =D

Hmm so you say. But I can taste the salt in my mouth when I read your OP.... Maybe you might wanna reword it if this is truly how you feel.

Maybe im wrong but on a sidenote, im pretty sure my WB still hits for well over 7k lol... Like well over.

No it does more then 20% less on average unless you not set up for PVP ..... This is my average after patch according to the data I have compilied by my add ons

before patch 10K hits were common after patch 6-7 hits are common but 5-7k actually is closer to the average.... I did get a 10k last night but that was with someone wearing light armor, no hardy and probally no impen.

Mine Delvs for 14.3 K right now 7.15 in Cyrodil base damage with crit your looking at around 11k ok now with the hardy changes -20% ... more peope running Impen even more ... and I did not even add in armor .....

DjSolJAH · March 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

So much salt.... Seems like someone took too many wbs in the face... For the record.. it still works lol. I still can WB>leap and pretty much end 90% of the cheese 40k magicka 7/7 light armour builds that plague cyrodill right now..

What kind of magicka build uses 7/7 light armour? xD

Nooby ones without undaunted

kadar · March 2016

Maybe im wrong but on a sidenote, im pretty sure my WB still hits for well over 7k lol... Like well over.

@Vangy , I've never seen anyone exaggerate (or diminish) numbers on the forums to prove their point either...

Forestd16b14_ESO · March 2016

I was kinda surprised that WB didn't get a nerf (lets be honest here it's what it needs.) Well some say nerf I feel it just needs a 2 second cast time and changed it's range to either 3 meters or even single target attack. Let it hit like a truck just make it have a negative that rounds it out with everything else.... well except OP meteor.

CyrusArya · March 2016

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

I was kinda surprised that WB didn't get a nerf (lets be honest here it's what it needs.) Well some say nerf I feel it just needs a 2 second cast time and changed it's range to either 3 meters or even single target attack. Let it hit like a truck just make it have a negative that rounds it out with everything else.... well except OP meteor.

It does have a negative, a one second cast time and telegraphed wind up. If you think a two second cast time is reasonable, I can't take anything you say seriously.

Under the new CP system, wrecking blow is fine.

Cody · March 2016

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

I was kinda surprised that WB didn't get a nerf (lets be honest here it's what it needs.) Well some say nerf I feel it just needs a 2 second cast time and changed it's range to either 3 meters or even single target attack. Let it hit like a truck just make it have a negative that rounds it out with everything else.... well except OP meteor.

it does not need a 2 second cast time forest. it did have a 2 second cast time at one point and the ability was almost worthless. you played in those itmes, you should know these things.

kadar · March 2016

Cody wrote: »

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

I was kinda surprised that WB didn't get a nerf (lets be honest here it's what it needs.) Well some say nerf I feel it just needs a 2 second cast time and changed it's range to either 3 meters or even single target attack. Let it hit like a truck just make it have a negative that rounds it out with everything else.... well except OP meteor.

it does not need a 2 second cast time forest. it did have a 2 second cast time at one point and the ability was almost worthless. you played in those itmes, you should know these things.

I agree. Even pre-TG, I agree. And I never use the skill besides for testing. If anything it's lag that makes WB strong, not anything else. And that lag buffs all CC, so...

Vangy · March 2016

Well..

Yeah if your opponent is well set up for PvP with something like 5/1/1 or 5/2 armor with 5 pieces in impen with proper CP allocation in hardy, ele resist etc etc, then yes, WBs will hit for a LOT less.... Just like every other skill in the game will hit them for less.

BUT.. lets not kid ourselves... Basically this whole week ive seen groups of 20 running cheese builds playing catch the monkey with each other. One group turns on proxy runs into the other and catches and kills straggler. Now the other group notices enemy proxy has gone off and now its their turn to cheese and they basically do this over and over back and forth....
The truth is, 80% of the people in cyro are indeed running full DPS builds with no impen pieces... My wb on average hits for around 10k+ when im in my dps focused build with over 4k weapon damage and 34k stam. However I also get hit for over 10k if im caught off guard.

To give some perspective my stam DK currently runs 5 H mork, 2 Engin (in 1/1), 3 agility + SNB/2H. Ive got ard 2000 crit resist with around 20k+ armor and spell res unbuffed. ard 3.2k wp damage and 32k stam. So yeah, most abilities hit me for not more than 4-6k in this build compared to my DPS focus build which gets hit for ard 10k+. Which is what I would expect someone to hit me for since I have ard 500 CP + proper pvp set up. The thing is.. most people wanna play burst builds and cheese their way through with WB or proxy lotus soul tether etc etc with things like vicious death etc. Nothing wrong with that, but these guys with huge bursts are normally so squishy they'd probably get wrecked if you can catch them with a WB leap combo etc.

Vangy · March 2016

To add a little more, no skill in this game needs to be nerfed. Combat in ESO is supposed to be based around resource management. Thats why we dont have cooldowns like in other mmos. The thing is, with removal of soft caps, and 90% of heals/shields being based on max stam/mag + wp/sp it makes resource management a non issue.

Its not wrong to have a huge burst build. Whats wrong is that my 4.5k weapon damage build can just hit doge roll a few times and LOS and hit rally and go back to full hp from 20%. Whats wrong is my vigor in full dps build ticks for 2.5k a second. Whats wrong is my Sorc can take down groups of people but also just press a button and get a 12-15k shield.

Decouple offensive stats from defensive stats is what needs to be done. Health and shields should be based of health and health recovery. That way, all these cheese builds will have to make an ACTIVE TRADEOFF. Yes you can hit 20-40k bursts but that would mean you cant heal yourself well. Right now ESO pvp and combat system is one heck of a hot mess.

All the other problems like AOE caps, not enough mitigation to compensate for the damage, cryo 50% debuff etc etc will all be solved if they just decouple offensive and defensive spells from one another...

Just my 2 cents

sluice · March 2016

Not another WB thread...

Docmandu · March 2016

Vangy wrote: »

The thing is, with removal of soft caps, and 90% of heals/shields being based on max stam/mag + wp/sp it makes resource management a non issue.

That's due to CP also.. try on non-CP and see resource management actually come into the picture again... esp since you won't have the damage mitigation from CP either, so your gear can't be all paper with +DPS stats.

MightyBantam34 · March 2016

Oh my ... If a sorc can stand in is mines and shield stack while curse frag then I'm gonna rush them burst them down . If a nb can cloak up and reset the fight when ever he wants as well as spambush I'm gonna want to grab that sucker quick and end them if a templer wants to spam bol then then yes wb is the key

I'm a Stam dk , would you prefer I hit you with unstable flame while you laugh on my face for the easy kill? Until we get better stamina abilities ..

Rant over

RebornV3x · March 2016

Fix the lag and buff some other abilities so no everyone is using WB problem solved no real problem with the ability its just super annoying to fight someone that spams this ability I normally just avoid the fight.

vamp_emily · March 2016

♡ Kiss My WB ♡

Get over it guys, first you cried about cloak and said stuff like "quick cloaking and fight". Well now I am, I bash you with my shield and WB you to death. Now you are crying about that?

I think they need to have a no fighting campaign so you guys can just stand around looking cool. Or would you complain about that also?

OMG L2Fight

DHale · March 2016

Agree with op I see no nerfs to my Stam builds they only do less damage if the opposing player or players specked into hardy and resist. Seems like a learn to adapt situation. Crying on the forum is eso past time at this point.