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Feed back on current patch.

nordickittyhawk
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This is an honest opinion on the state of your game right now. I know you are not a fan criticism or negative feedback but you really have to listen to players more than ever right now. This DLC has clearly not come back with as much positive feedback as you might have thought. You see videos, posts and talks all over the community of how much of a let-down this DLC is in a short amount of time and some of the decision’s the developers have made this patch have been massively criticized.

New Content:
The thieves’ guild has been on those DLCs you have hyped for nearly 2 years now at your first few DLC plans at quake con. The new content your DLC brought us:
• New zone
• 2 world bosses
• 2 public dungeons
• New skill line
• 1 new trial
New zone:
Honestly this zone is really beautiful when it comes to looks but it’s so small that it honestly just feels like a garden than a full sized zone. The city isn’t very interesting at all and just feels boring for a city made for crime.

The two ‘world’s bosses’ are a massive step backwards from Orsinum world bosses. They are simply environment and her ship to support her. I don’t understand why you like to take step backs on difficulty.

‘Public dungeons’ well… *yawn* boring and you have such a unique mob in one dungeon that patrols the dungeon and in your ESO live you claim that he is a challenge. It took me 4 seconds to kill that thing without trying… come on zos that pretty pathetic at least make him hit stupid hard or have a lot of health.

‘New skill line’ is honestly not really hyping anything or making a must need like fighters guild, mages and undaunted. I get it you don’t want a ‘pay to win’ skill line to do with buffing your toon up but eventually you are going to have to stop giving those who don’t pay a DLC anything (which you tried in your 2nd DLC but… come on just add the “requires the DLC to bind on equip”). The skill line in its self… well I’m going to take a quote from someone who loves your justice system “You have to be a pretty bad thief for most of those passives” (Except the ones that earn you more money).

The new trial (Vet only):
Before I even talk about the actual trial I’ll be honest there is 0 reason to do this trial at all on veteran mode, why?! Because there is no reward for doing it besides a lame skin and you can get the all the gear from normal or the weeklies of the older trials and DSA and to add insult to injury the sets are god awful.
This trial is apparently made up from all feedback they have received from end game guilds from guild meetings. I won’t be talking about the trash pulls because I honestly think they are fine except one little thing ‘WHY DOES THE TWO HANDER MAKE YOU HAVE 0 ARMOR’ another reason to tank in light Armor or just not be stamina good job zos way to ‘Balance your game’.

The first boss of this trial is honestly my least favourite so far (from stamina point of view) apart from the horrific frame rate issues which have still not been fully fixed which was a heavy demand in pts. I really dis like the mechanics of this boss that can honestly be changed to make the trial less RNG involved. First thing would be bringing the old pads cure cooldown back as you could simply 2 people on each pad and wait for it to respawn in the time of your death, NOW the timer is so large you will be honestly running around like a headless chicken and if you even dare try stay on a pad you will die (As a stamina toon this is a nightmare as I have to stand there and do one thing… stare at the boss until I’m either dead or cured).
Another problem with this boss is his 70% and 30% shield. I’m not complaining about the shield itself but the curse and the explosion from the boss just as he hits that % to cause the shield. Let’s say he uses the curse you have no choice but to die during the shield or as he starts it causing 3/4/5 deaths due to a stupid mechanic and the other being the explosion once he explodes, he starts his shield phase immediately killing everyone from being stacked and not being close enough or to spread out to damage the shield or healing range.
(ALSO FIX THE FAKE PILLARS)

PVE
PvE is honestly in a bad place (I’ll get to pvp later don’t worry pvpers), we have honestly been Imperial city and we have been farming that for at least nearly a 6 months now. The trials are outdated and can actually be 4 manned (Yes Hodor did that). The gear is all garbage and you keep giving us solo content in a MMO and adding one trial at a time is not enough. I would honestly prefer 2 dungeons each DLC.
The dailies are just no longer has fun and you kept nerfing the drop rate for shoulder that it’s honestly gave that chest a name of “The chest of ultimate disappointment”. In short I’m sick of doing same content for last two years and trying to get a shoulder piece and only getting at least 2 a week.

Id like to add as well that the bow is still not viable dps and has awful sustain no matter your class (Yes even siphon attacks) with the recent hawk eye passive. Only soultion would be to buff hawke eye set to pve. You have marksman for pvp why not make that apply in pve to?

PVP
PvP is actually better than before (HANG ON… read before u type). Siege battles are longer, there are battles for keeps and resource’s that can go on for hours and ball groups can be absolutely destroyed now.
Thou I will admit it the lag is still awful and makes the game unplayable a lot of the times and the balance between stamina and magic is unreal. Due to CP issues and more. Prox det once again is not working as they intend as people use it in 1 on 1 fights and it still hits like a truck which is really silly.
Id like to add as well when people say stamina is for noobs because you only use wrecking blow and Suprise attack. My response is "WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE?".

Honestly you can write your own opnion about pvp as everyone has huge diffrent views on it but thats a short version of mine.

Community:
Zos i have defended you for so damn long that im at my limit you are going to need a pretty good next patch "Soonier rather later" because you are loosing so many people patch. People are angry at you so damn much because you cant take feed back or even do a pts correctly.

PTS is suppost to be a test server yet all it feels like is early access they never actually change thing after first patch towards skills when people are giving constant feed back yet you just say "next patch" DURING A PTS?!. Thats not on... you are not listening to us at all here is a example:

killers blade should be poison damage (Been demanded for 6 months). Not once did i see a dev on the nightblade feed back post and when they acknowlege it on eso live they say next dlc... NEXT DLC?! WTF..... we want balance while the month of pts is up yet you say next DLC ... no im outraged by that and i imagine everyone else is for changes and fixes. blah blah i could go on.


I honestly want to keep going and going but I really don’t want to. There is a video of someone that works so perfect for how I feel zos when it comes to the community (You all know who it is).
https://youtube.com/watch?v=o33iczl2PxE
Edited by nordickittyhawk on March 23, 2016 12:06AM
  • DKsUnite
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    I want to add that not raising existing gear to max level is stupid. Down right dumb. You lock max gear behind DLCs because you want them to buy it and do the grind but that's wrong. So many good sets exist but aren't max level and it wouldn't be a major problem if the gap between vr12/14 and vr16 wasn't so big.

    You should make the DLCs appealing because of the content not because of the gear grind need.

    And speaking of gear, you failed to increase the cyrodiil vendor sets to max because you don't want people with saved up AP to buy them instantly and be done with it and have no grind. That's exactly what pvp players want though. We don't want to have to grind, we want to pvp and have fun. Also the reason we have so much AP saved up is because between 1.7 and 1.9 you gave us 0 things to spend AP on. If we had camps and gear to sell we would be spending it left and right. Back when morag tong and hawk eye was the meta, I didn't have more then 50k AP on any of my characters because I wanted the gear to use and sell.
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  • mb10
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    No one cares I'm afraid.

    Btw the way the game will stay alive whether people like you and fengrush play or not :blush:
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  • JD2013
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    I wondered when that video would pop up again. In a typical sky is falling thread, of course.

    "I love the game but why won't ZOS make the game how I want???"

    The game certainly could do with some additions, more QA testing, some new stuff in PVP etc, but this constant doom and gloom mentality around here, or supremely non constructive threads hurling personal abuse at the devs - is it any wonder they're commenting less and less?

    Also, I do wonder how big people seem to think the team is.


    Edited by JD2013 on March 22, 2016 11:31PM
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  • JubJub
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    Please quit, but before you do can I have your stuff?
  • nordickittyhawk
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    rossvoss wrote: »
    Please quit, but before you do can I have your stuff?

    Nah ill keep my stuff come back 6 months later.
  • ADarklore
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    As soon as I see someone re-post the Fengrush video that player and their post instantly loses credibility with me... and no doubt with ZOS too.
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  • nordickittyhawk
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    As soon as I see someone re-post the Fengrush video that player and their post instantly loses credibility with me... and no doubt with ZOS too.

    Like zos actually reads feed back and yet from the comments above except the first have actually read my post. Hey i voiced my opnion and no one cares! QUE THE MEME GIFS OF NO ONE CARES!
  • Holy-Dope
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    As soon as I see someone re-post the Fengrush video that player and their post instantly loses credibility with me... and no doubt with ZOS too.

    Then you have failed to understand the gravity of situation as ZOS did...and why bother posting here then if it tht's what your opinion is...
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  • nordickittyhawk
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    Holy-Dope wrote: »
    ADarklore wrote: »
    As soon as I see someone re-post the Fengrush video that player and their post instantly loses credibility with me... and no doubt with ZOS too.

    Then you have failed to understand the gravity of situation as ZOS did...and why bother posting here then if it tht's what your opinion is...

    @Holy-Dope <3 Thank you sir
  • ScooberSteve
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    This game is very much alive. You might not notice if you have no friends. ZOS makes games for the community as a whole not just you. Altho i dont step foot in new area I love all of the new pvp changes they have made. If your not subscribing then you have no right to whinge as your not contributing so the devs can update the game.
  • nordickittyhawk
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    This game is very much alive. You might not notice if you have no friends. ZOS makes games for the community as a whole not just you. Altho i dont step foot in new area I love all of the new pvp changes they have made. If your not subscribing then you have no right to whinge as your not contributing so the devs can update the game.

    1) lots friends playing
    2) doing end game vet maw are you?
    3) im subed yes
    4) clearly didnt read the post.
  • tinythinker
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    Might I suggest that critiques work better without the dramatic thread titles? They are troll bait.
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  • nordickittyhawk
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    Might I suggest that critiques work better without the dramatic thread titles? They are troll bait.
    @tinythinker

    oh u can change title now omg SAVED
    Edited by nordickittyhawk on March 23, 2016 12:06AM
  • Holy-Dope
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    This game is very much alive. You might not notice if you have no friends. ZOS makes games for the community as a whole not just you. Altho i dont step foot in new area I love all of the new pvp changes they have made. If your not subscribing then you have no right to whinge as your not contributing so the devs can update the game.

    TROLLLL
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  • Kreetar
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    *may contain small spoilers, so*
    I usually roll my eyes at these threads that go on and on about the 'doomed state' of the game, and how it's going to be dead soon (tbh they could stop rolling out new things right now and I'd still play, but that's just me :grimace: ) buuut I do agree with a lot of the points you brought up. perhaps Thieves Guild was simply too over-hyped and we just set ourselves up to be so let down? I'm not sure, but I do know that Hew's Bane is such a small little sh*t of an area (pardon my language), despite it actually being quite pleasing to the eyes. I remember feeling like Abah's Landing was kind of massive and overwhelming at first, but only to find that it's attempting to make up for how much feels like is missing elsewhere.

    basically:
    blahblahblah doom-and-gloom-this-game-is-dead/dying, that's your opinion, that's the death sentence you're handing down
    I agree with the let-down that is the Thieves Guild
    I think Zeni knows it has a bit to evaluate & strives to make it better, despite it all
    can we just acknowledge that Velsa's great, though :kiss:
    dip me in the blood of mortals and throw me to the Dremora

  • nordickittyhawk
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    Kreetar wrote: »
    *may contain small spoilers, so*
    I usually roll my eyes at these threads that go on and on about the 'doomed state' of the game, and how it's going to be dead soon (tbh they could stop rolling out new things right now and I'd still play, but that's just me :grimace: ) buuut I do agree with a lot of the points you brought up. perhaps Thieves Guild was simply too over-hyped and we just set ourselves up to be so let down? I'm not sure, but I do know that Hew's Bane is such a small little sh*t of an area (pardon my language), despite it actually being quite pleasing to the eyes. I remember feeling like Abah's Landing was kind of massive and overwhelming at first, but only to find that it's attempting to make up for how much feels like is missing elsewhere.

    basically:
    blahblahblah doom-and-gloom-this-game-is-dead/dying, that's your opinion, that's the death sentence you're handing down
    I agree with the let-down that is the Thieves Guild
    I think Zeni knows it has a bit to evaluate & strives to make it better, despite it all
    can we just acknowledge that Velsa's great, though :kiss:

    @Kreetar
    thank you for your honesty and opnion
  • aLi3nZ
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    Fix npc voices sound bug so I can actually quest the new content and I will be happy. Small scale pvp in ic is still fun and lag free so all good.
  • Dredlord
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    As soon as I see someone re-post the Fengrush video that player and their post instantly loses credibility with me... and no doubt with ZOS too.

    Qft...
  • nordickittyhawk
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    aLi3nZ wrote: »
    Fix npc voices sound bug so I can actually quest the new content and I will be happy. Small scale pvp in ic is still fun and lag free so all good.

    yeah thou i would like life brought back to IC. so all lag issues should be fixed.
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