Radiant Distruction - Ridiculous

phillyboy7897 · March 2016

I think temps would be willing to hear ppl out coming from that kind of place man. I can't speak for all of em but I would talk it out w/ ya.

That's not most of these post they are mostly "OP" "Nerfffffff!"

We are defensive after what happened w/ the balancing to the healing tree. It's not personal... If temps lose the damage they gave us the class will be in a very rough spot. This is dps patch, and our goal is not to be top dog. We want to at least be somewhat competitive with mag NB and mag Sorc.

Bofrari · March 2016

L2P n counter its so easy a child could do it. If the people coming here crying, complaining and whining would put half the effort into playing as they do QQING they would be almost unstoppable.

Brrrofski · March 2016

Patch going live on xbox today.

Flexing my beam arm in preparation to nuke.

olsborg · March 2016

Alcast wrote: »

I tested Jesus Beam today and it is quite ridiculous OP in Open world mass pvp. Solo not rly a problem as it is interruptable.

This is my issue with it too, if youre having an intense fight vs some ppl, and suddenly some templar comes and starts beaming you from range where you cant really get to him fast, youre pretty much screwed cause you cant dodge or block this, theres no way to avoid the beam on you unless you are a mana build who can spam purge. No other execute can do this, every other execute has some kind of counterplay to it, but not jesusbeam.

Shaiba · March 2016

olsborg wrote: »

youre pretty much screwed cause you cant dodge or block this

You can block it. It has been said numerous times here....

Vangy · March 2016

Im okay with RDs damage and undodgeable status. However, I do feel that the range on this needs to be toned down a little. The number of temps ive seen just spamming this ability even when opponents are at full life is starting to become ridiculous lol. If you want to use it in battle it should have some form of a trade off in the sense that you should be vulnerable and unable to block. With its current range, it can be safely spammed at quite a distance thereby removing any danger to the temp. However, this is just my opinion. On a 1 v 1 the temp is just asking to eat a wb/frag in the face -_-"

Bofrari · March 2016

Yeah you can block it, interupt it, bash it and so on I'm a stam dk n I rekt templars especially beamers.

Reb · March 2016

Vangy wrote: »

. If you want to use it in battle it should have some form of a trade off in the sense that you should be vulnerable and unable to block. "

whilst channeling radiant you are self snared and cannot block ....so, you were saying ?

Farorin · March 2016

OP IS OP! NERF OP!!!!

Alcast · March 2016

AddictionX wrote: »

^That's the real issue .... so i started using soul assault on beamers while they beam me i beam them back

That is actually a quite fun and good idea xD

cazlonb16_ESO · March 2016

Reb wrote: »

Vangy wrote: »

. If you want to use it in battle it should have some form of a trade off in the sense that you should be vulnerable and unable to block. "

whilst channeling radiant you are self snared and cannot block ....so, you were saying ?

He's saying that the concept of heavy artillery protected by infantery and tanks ( the mechanical kind ) does not translate well into MMORPGs.

Destruent · March 2016

olsborg wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

I tested Jesus Beam today and it is quite ridiculous OP in Open world mass pvp. Solo not rly a problem as it is interruptable.

This is my issue with it too, if youre having an intense fight vs some ppl, and suddenly some templar comes and starts beaming you from range where you cant really get to him fast, youre pretty much screwed cause you cant dodge or block this, theres no way to avoid the beam on you unless you are a mana build who can spam purge. No other execute can do this, every other execute has some kind of counterplay to it, but not jesusbeam.

You can counter it by: blocking, interrupting, purging
other executes can be countered by: block, dodge (?)

hm...ok you are right, only radiant cannot be countered.

and btw...you died bc you were outnumbered....a NB could have spambushed you, a Sorc could even hardcast crystal frags...literally everything could have killed you. But you complain about the templar execute??? Just start realizing, that even templars can now kill someone in pvp!

leepalmer95 · March 2016

Love the fact no one complains about the dark flares yet, can't wait to spam a stronger verson of wb with major defile frm range

Takes-No-Prisoner · March 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Love the fact no one complains about the dark flares yet, can't wait to spam a stronger verson of wb with major defile frm range

IKR?

I can 2-shot people in PvP with Dark Flare + RD. This is prior to the TG changes.......Both skills have a long list of counters.

Dark Flare has much much more going for it over RD. RD is perfect as a finisher move, and really is only strong if its just used for that. Dark Flare however does multiple things for the Templar-- Not only does Major Defile reducing the targets HoTs and Burst Heals effectiveness to around -30%b]which is buffed by CPs[/b, it hits like a truck, spreads its Major Defile as an Aoe. And Empowers the first TICK of RD. If they are already at 50% ~ and BELOW once RD is applied to them after all of that they are done for. It's a really amazing combo when it hits.

Major defile is a huge game changer in PvP. I am surprised no one really discusses how crippling the effects are from it. Couple with the effects of, I think it's the Shade star from The Shadow constellation, the defile would make me want to purify off the effects quickly so I can out heal the incoming DPS 1.0

Joy_Division · March 2016

Templars: Please keep ignoring your other skills and Jesus Beaming me.

Takes-No-Prisoner · March 2016

Joy_Division wrote: »

Templars: Please keep ignoring your other skills and Jesus Beaming me.

I am waiting for the day when I get just raw Jesus Beamed so I can just Jesus Beam the guy back with no fore-thought whatsoever. 1.0

THE DREAM WILL BE REAL. 1.0

bsmorrowb14_ESO · March 2016

Seriously people, how hard is it to block?

SurprisedFour91 · March 2016

just LoS around a tree or a rock, its not that hard seriously

puffy99 · March 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Love the fact no one complains about the dark flares yet, can't wait to spam a stronger verson of wb with major defile frm range

I hear you buddy. This weekend after a few drinks it's going to get ugly for all those that oppose the DF, RO terminator.

But seriously.... just have a healer behind you and push the front edge of the enemy with DF and half the time they will turn and run.

If harness Magicka is up for you plus BoL at the ready it takes a snare or bash to get you off your killing game and then hopefully your two handed buddies can take care of that interrupt while you RO them to death.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · March 2016

Have I mentioned Templar is my new favorite class to play? For the first time, I actually feel that I can contribute to a fight in some way other than spamming healing springs or BoL. I can play back, heal my party, and if I see someone with low health, you had better believe I am going to try and execute them.

Look, Radiant hits hard if you are low on health. As it should because its an execute (just like mages wrath, impale, killers blade, executioner, steel tornado etc., and some of those are ranged and dont require a channel). It is a channel that has MANY defenses to it, block being an obvious one. It's not like this is a skill that is hard to detect. If you are getting hit with radiant, you know it. If you get killed with an execute because you let your health gets to low, well thats on you. If you are not in execute range, this skill still its like a wet noodle. For what its worth, I get more Killing Blows from Dark Flare.

Are there going to be Noobs doing nothing but spamming radiant at the back line for easy kills, sure, but it's pretty easy to take these guys out, and this really doesnt result in many kills. Spamming Radiant on everything that moves is like a big shinning light screaming to the other faction, I am a templar that has no idea how to play, please come kill me.

Good players dont spam this skill just like good NBs dont spam ambush. I almost never let it run its full course, because I either get you on the first tick or like so many good players, you figured out how to counter it. If you cant deal with a spammer, I dont know what to tell you.

Waffennacht · March 2016

See 8 dmg trauma, maybe my character just couldn't handle it lol

Alcast · March 2016

Waffennacht wrote: »

See 8 dmg trauma, maybe my character just couldn't handle it lol

xd

Lettigall · March 2016

In group fight it's almost impossible to interrupt RD, especially in this lag. It's OP in large battles, not OP 1v1.

TheLordSoth · March 2016

Lexxypwns wrote: »

flguy147ub17_ESO wrote: »

People say block but in ESO PVP, a lot of times you arent in a 1 v 1. So its a guy casting from a distance while you are fighting another guy. But i agree its insanely OP but i am totally good with Templars getting buff but no one ability should hit that hard in this game. Its hitting harder than ultimates right now.

if you can't get an ulti to hit harder than RD ticks you have a bad build

Please Screen shot us yours. I wanna seek your 20k ultimate.....that would be impressive!

TheLordSoth · March 2016

dtsv217_ESO wrote: »

Really guys, you are complaining about a skill that will hit you for 20k only when you are below 25% health. As a tank with health stacked I get about 35k max health (not the best but good enough). So when I am down to 8.5k I will then be hit for 20k. Sure, instant death, but when you compare this EXECUTION skill to oh, lets say crystal fragments that can hit 20k+ when you are FULL health, your complaints are ridiculous.

Nightblade executions can do 15k+, why not complain about that. The 2h weapon execute (forgot name) can do 10k+. Everyone has some way of doing an execute. So, if you were to complain, complain about how you were not able to keep yourself above the 25% health threshold (and don't say you can execute the RD at 50% because it is a weak skill at that point).

The only difference is, with the others you mention, you have a chance to block or lessen, as it is close quarters or melee. With the Templar you do not have that opportunity. The only thing I found to gt out if it that works (Some one mentioned cleanse, that a fail and he obviously don't know wtf he is talking about) is to roll out. And of course they have made that cost half your stam.

TheLordSoth · March 2016

Waffennacht wrote: »

It's finally time Templars were given the ability to be competitive amongst the rest of the top builds.

Please no more, "I got hit by 25k move, therefore it's OP" far more factors need to be accounted for than just dmg to consider a move "OP"

Ok, hows this...I got hit by some tard sitting behind a hill doing nothing, for 25k. Thats about the factors in this situation.

TheLordSoth · March 2016

Zyle wrote: »

My new requirement for these threads: How much health did you have when you got hit with RD?

I had about 50%.

Waffennacht · March 2016

TheLordSoth wrote: »

Zyle wrote: »

My new requirement for these threads: How much health did you have when you got hit with RD?

I had about 50%.

You had 50% health and no shield.... im gonna guess light or med armor, and you're surprised an execute did high dmg?

TheLordSoth · March 2016

Waffennacht wrote: »

TheLordSoth wrote: »

Zyle wrote: »

My new requirement for these threads: How much health did you have when you got hit with RD?

I had about 50%.

You had 50% health and no shield.... im gonna guess light or med armor, and you're surprised an execute did high dmg?

Well the class I was playing has no shield, the diff. between Med and hvy armor is so minimal it wouldn't have mattered all that much. So what's your point?

Oreyn_Bearclaw · March 2016

TheLordSoth wrote: »

Zyle wrote: »

My new requirement for these threads: How much health did you have when you got hit with RD?

I had about 50%.

If you stand there at 50% health, a 2.5 second channel execute will kill you. It does not, however, hit for 25k on the first tick if you are at 50% health. Block and/or interrupt. Problem solved.