Hmm, let me get the old calculator skills running here and see if I can't get the actual time to research all 9 traits. This is given that you have a rank of 42 or more to get the 4th skill line with a 25% decrease capped at 30 days benefit, and the calculations will be in hours:

Item 1 = 6 hours - 4 hours 30 minutes
Item 2 = 12 hours - 9 hours
Item 3 = 1 day - 18 hours
Item 4 = 2 days - 36 hours
Item 5 = 4 days - 72 hours
Item 6 = 8 days - 48 hours
Item 7 = 16 days - 288 hours
Item 8 = 32 days - 576 hours (gets under the 30 days cap)
Item 9 = 30 days - 720 hours
Total: 74 days (ish) - 1771 hours
The 9th item normally takes 64 days (1536 hours) without the 4 skill trait, but since you have the 4 skill line, it's reduced to 30 days flat or 720 hours so get that 4 skill line before researching this one!

Now for blacksmithing and clothing there are 14 items that needs to be researched while for woodworking there's 6 items that needs researching. Now we're also assuming here that you have the ability to research 3 items at once.

Blacksmithing (3 items on research per time): 8265 hours (344 days)
Clothing (3 items on research per time): 8265 (344 days)
woodworking (3 items on research per time): 3542 hours (148 days)

So the maximum amount of time to research all 9 traits for all 14 items for blacksmithing and clothing, is 344 days (or little under a year).

I think they might sell time reducing things for crafters in researching times in the crown store......like horse training. Just a thought...........it is a convenience.............

For me time of research is ridiculously long for the last couple of traits.
No idea what was the purpose of awaiting months, but I can imagine the potential advantages of shortening this time: more people interested in research, thus buying more often items with traits and improving their gears, more trading in stores etc. Now If I have to wait 30 days, all my research slots are locked and I don't need to buy more items for later.
In any of my games I wasn't forced to wait so long to get a better gears just by waiting.
ESO is an undisputed winner.

Im almost 9 traits for everything so it doesnt bother me.

When did you start playing the game, @RWKT? Obviously fairly recently, since I've had a 9-trait crafter since late May or early June last year. (About a month after the first people finished researching Nirnhoned, since I was too poor to buy up tons of Nirncrux at the beginning.)

The idea of traits taking longer and longer to research is to reward those who have put the time and effort in to do the research. And it is effort - in order not to waste a single hour of time when my character could be researching, I would write down exactly when my research was going to finish and make sure I logged on to start it going. Which meant setting alarms for 5 am some days. Wake up, log in, start research going, get back to bed. I went away one weekend and honestly considered asking my mum to log on for me...

Now, I can make any item set in the game, so I get to make gold from players who put adverts out in Guild chat or /zone for 9-trait crafters. The time and skill points that I invested back then are my reward now. (Although I charge basically nothing if people have already collected their own materials and their order is simple.)

I don't believe it was ever intended that everyone in the game would make all of their own equipment. I think it was always intended that you would swap items with Guildmates (e.g. you'd make their weapons and they'd make your glyphs), or that you'd buy items from other players in /zone. That's the point of it being massively multiplayer, right? (Of course, I can see how the lack of text chat on the console platforms makes finding a crafter a lot harder.)

So be grateful that it's only 11 days for your research right now, and that you have the ESO Plus bonus.

Also, make sure that you research the most valuable traits first. On armour, these are: Divines, Infused, Impenetrable, Reinforced, Training. (Where Training is the most useful for new characters, Impenetrable is the most useful for PvP, and Divines is the most useful for PvE). Exploration should be your 9th trait, because it doesn't even work properly right now. If you have Divines, Infused, Impenetrable, Reinforced, Training plus one other trait, you can make any 6-trait armour set that a player will want to buy.

On weapons, the most valuable traits are: Sharpened, Precise, Training, and then we could argue about the rest. (Defending on Tank items like 1-handed swords, and Restoration Staffs? Nirnhoned on everything except for Resto Staffs?)

I wouldn't be opposed to people shortening their research times with Crowns, but I would laugh my arse off. If people want to pay real money for something they could get for free by just waiting, then be my guest.

RWKT wrote: »

Hi, does anybody else here feel like the trait research times are a little too long? I mean, one of my characters (V16) is a master-blacksmith and trait research on a piece of heavy armor can go one for more than 10 DAYS!!!

That's not bad. Upgrade to the fourth point in each research tree, and it will hard cap the research time to 30 days.

"Why, 30 days?" you may ask. Well, because without it, the eighth trait will take 32 days, and the ninth trait will take 64 days to complete.

This is not a system you're expected to finish over the weekend. It takes time. You're also expected to be researching lots of different items at once.

When you see the bonuses on 9 trait sets... you'll actually probably be a little disappointed. But the 5+ trait sets are usually really good. Six traits for Hunding's Rage? Yeah, it's worth that. Nine traits for Twice Born Star? Eh... maybe. Actually, TBS may have gotten a buff recently, I'm not sure. But it is a 5pc bonus you'll remember.

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Let's see, has a problem with a minor part of the game... Immediately states subscription status..

KaleidoscopeEyz wrote: »

ESO Plus Memberships should have no impact on that. You are not special.

So I'm guessing you guys don't know what an ESO+ subscription gives you:

ESO Plus Membership wrote:

INCLUDED WITH ALL MEMBERSHIPS:

Access to all DLC game packs¹
Crowns to spend on the in-game store²
10% bonus to experience points gain¹
10% bonus to crafting inspiration gain¹
10% bonus to trait research time¹
10% bonus to gold acquisition¹

Membership status is very very relevant to any discussion of research times.

Research time is necessary, otherwise people will simply create a new toon, grind it to hell and back, have it 'full' in 2 days and then yell in the forums about "no content"
(i know one thing doesn't directly interfere with the other, but the mindset IS the same)

Ive been playing since launch and given the time ive put in i think its worth it. It puts a lot of merit into being a master crafter, ive been lazy but have a lot of nirn traits left.

It also gives other players opportunity to trade.

I have 9 traits on all HA, and 8-9 on weapons. Yeah, it took a long time. My mistake was that i research only blacksmith.

I just wish getting the nirncrux stuff was a little easier. I'm having a hard time getting people to run Craglorn with me as our time zones don't always sync.

RocDonald wrote: »

I just wish getting the nirncrux stuff was a little easier. I'm having a hard time getting people to run Craglorn with me as our time zones don't always sync.

I just buy them from a guildstore merchant at filthy high prices. Not complaining at all, when I researched them I will sell at filthy high prices too.

And of course I will make myself a Twice-Born Star armor.

Danksta wrote: »

KaylynT wrote: »

Roll a mule character and put the researchables on them. That way you can't decon it. On the PC, we have addons for this to note that which we need to research, or even hide things from the crafting tables.

Though, I do find researchables quite easy in the guild stores on the PC/NA.

I've got a "researching grid" that I've made and keep in a notebook. It's separated by weapons, light, medium and heavy armor with traits along the top and pieces (chest, legs, hands, etc.) along the side. I mark a slash (/) if I have that item waiting to research and mark it with an X once I've started researching it. There's also an android app that does this as well, but I haven't used it.

You mean, like this?







The Addon is called Research Grid, as I recall. Though there's also Research Assistant, which is ridiculously useful.

These are the things ESO+ benefits should address... ESO+ = 25% lessened research time.

Then add Crown Store "research notes". Each one applied cuts research time by 50%