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What is the best tanking v16 armor set?

Xandyaffonso
If you think that some drop is better than a crafted set, or another set not mentioned, please let me know.

This sets I picked because they are the ones that look more tank to me. Some here may suck and some may not be here.
Edited by Xandyaffonso on March 16, 2016 10:27PM

What is the best tanking v16 armor set? 56 votes

Armor Master
41%
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Shalido's Curse
0%
Orgnum's Scales
0%
Alessia's Bulwark
3%
FlameheartToxie50 2 votes
Song of Lamae
1%
UntrustedExistenz 1 vote
Vampire's Kiss
0%
Whitestrake's Retribution
5%
AegisWolfPeel_Ya_Cap_517Toc de Malsvi 3 votes
Hist Bark
46%
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Trial by Fire
0%
Death's Wind
1%
JoricK 1 vote
  • Savage_Audacity
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    Hist Bark
    It depends on your build. If armor master puts you over the caps for physical and spell resistance its almost useless. But if you need armor master to reach the caps (32,500) then it is a great choice. Hist bark is very good bc with a 20% dodge chance it is essentially reducing your block cost by 20% meaning you can block more and mitigate more damage which is vital as a tank. However, some tanks use recovery sets such as seducers or willows path to help manahe their resources.
  • Kammakazi
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    Hist Bark
    I use Hist Bark on my tank and can pretty much reach the Physical Resistance cap, so having Armor Master and taking up precious slots for an armor ability is kinda pointless.
  • paulsimonps
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    Hist Bark
    Lunar Bastion:

    (2 Items) Adds 4% Healing Taken
    (3 Items) Grants Minor Aegis, causing you to take 5% less damage from Boss Monsters.
    (4 Items) Adds 1064 Maximum Health
    (5 Items) When you use a synergy you create a lunar blessing for 10 seconds that grants a 2315 Damage Shield to nearby allies every 2 seconds.

    If I had it I would use it.
    Edited by paulsimonps on March 17, 2016 5:52AM
  • Farorin
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    For my Stamplar tank I use Willow's and Orgnums, it works well, but I also play my tank using lots of active movement and skills, like roll dodging, active blocking, self heals/buffs and damage avoidance tactics, so the regen helps a lot.
  • Johngo0036
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    I Use pariah..
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  • Stannum
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    really you have some good tanking drop sets that include jewellry (like Mark of the Pariah or Permafrost) so you can combine 5+5 full sets. Smth like Pariah(5)+Spectres eye(5)
  • ListerJMC
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    It depends on what kind of tank you are, it's hard to pick one set that's the best across the board.

    A couple you didn't mention that I've seen in use at VR16 are "Footman" (drops in Dragonstar Arena) and "Spectre's Eye" (craftable in Coldharbour, useful for magicka tanks).
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  • Asmael
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    You can't just decide on one specific set. It depends on what you do (PvE / PvP / trials / dungeons / vMA ...) and what kind of tank you are.

    Hist bark would be a terrible choice for a health stacking tank, while Orgnum is pretty good for Regenerator builds. Hist Bark is the go-to for blocking oriented builds, because you get the best value from getting healed, hence why they're used in PvE the most. They all have their uses, strengths and drawbacks. Block builds aren't as effective in Cyro, because you can have a LOT of people on you, because jabs, animation cancelling, fear / fossilize, jesus beam... all counter this kind of build.

    Also, with the new TG sets having jewelry (and even Orsinium actually), you can combine two 5 piece sets at once, so we should really be deciding on a full setup instead of a specific set.
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  • Septimus_Magna
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    Hist Bark
    Hist Bark because it lowers dmg by 20% and reduced block cost by 20%.
    Only for a NB tank I would consider a different set because they have Double Take/Mirage.

    Tava's Favor could work well on a stam DK tank in combination with Blood Spawn and Glorious Defender, havent tried this myself though.
    Edited by Septimus_Magna on March 17, 2016 9:27AM
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  • Flameheart
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    Alessia's Bulwark
    As a NB tank on magicka the usual 5x Footman set + 5x Alessia's Bulwark. Armor Master wouldn't be bad too.

    For my dodge I have Double Take.

    In addition I use the ICP Monster set, Lord Warden (shoulders + helm). As a Imperial NB I don't need any undaunted set 1k health bonus (>31k health buffed with purple buff food anyways), but I like to have the spell resistance and the effect procs often and gives some group support. In addition I can switch less CPs into spell resistance and more into block costs.

    Edited by Flameheart on March 17, 2016 10:09AM
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  • Stannum
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    Hist Bark because it lowers dmg by 20% and reduced block cost by 20%.
    Only for a NB tank I would consider a different set because they have Double Take/Mirage.
    everyone can use elude and for magika tank there's good alternative set - specrte's eye

  • Septimus_Magna
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    Hist Bark
    Hist Bark because it lowers dmg by 20% and reduced block cost by 20%.
    Only for a NB tank I would consider a different set because they have Double Take/Mirage.
    everyone can use elude and for magika tank there's good alternative set - specrte's eye

    Elude is pretty expensive to cast, its a great skill for medium armor builds but I personally dont like the stamina drain on heavy armor builds.

    Spectre's Eye has an effective up time of max 50%, grating an effective dodge chance of 10% for longer fights.
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  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    Tavas Blessing:
    You don't really need the extra mitigation from Armour master and histbark is pointless now that it provides the same buff as shuffle. But being able to use Warhorn more often will help the dps a lot.
  • Rex-Umbra
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    I use Kragnacs on my mackica nb tank and love it.
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  • Stannum
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    Hist Bark because it lowers dmg by 20% and reduced block cost by 20%.
    Only for a NB tank I would consider a different set because they have Double Take/Mirage.
    everyone can use elude and for magika tank there's good alternative set - specrte's eye

    Elude is pretty expensive to cast, its a great skill for medium armor builds but I personally dont like the stamina drain on heavy armor builds.

    Spectre's Eye has an effective up time of max 50%, grating an effective dodge chance of 10% for longer fights.

    HB dodge works only when you block, so if you permablock you will be out of stamina, the only exeption - NB sap tank but they has mirage also and do not need HB.
  • Septimus_Magna
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    Hist Bark
    Hist Bark because it lowers dmg by 20% and reduced block cost by 20%.
    Only for a NB tank I would consider a different set because they have Double Take/Mirage.
    everyone can use elude and for magika tank there's good alternative set - specrte's eye

    Elude is pretty expensive to cast, its a great skill for medium armor builds but I personally dont like the stamina drain on heavy armor builds.

    Spectre's Eye has an effective up time of max 50%, grating an effective dodge chance of 10% for longer fights.

    HB dodge works only when you block, so if you permablock you will be out of stamina, the only exeption - NB sap tank but they has mirage also and do not need HB.

    On my magicka DK I can spam Igneous and perma block as well, this is with only 3 CP into block cost reduction.

    The way I see HB is that you basically reduce dmg while blocking by 20% (when you dodge) along with a 20% block cost reduction (when you dodge). You can achieve the same with Elude but that requires quite some stamina every 26s.
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  • Zeg0ta
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    The new Tava's set is awesome. Combine that with bloodspawn and footmans you can get really close to the armor caps have decent magicka Regen and keep them warhorns up.
  • wookikiller95
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    Armor Master
    With Engine Guardian und footman
    For NB Stam Tank
    With bufff and war Horn
    At 34k Health
    32k Stam
    16k mag
    And over recistance cap
    Edited by wookikiller95 on March 17, 2016 12:06PM
  • ThatNeonZebraAgain
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    ListerJMC wrote: »
    It depends on what kind of tank you are, it's hard to pick one set that's the best across the board.

    This is the correct answer. Best armor sets depends on your class, stamina vs magicka focus, and preferred playstyle. As a NB, we get a great class dodge skill as well as decent resource management, so Hist Bark and Engine Guardian aren't necessary. For example, on my Argonian Magicka NB tank, I run 5pc Juggernaut, 3pc Willpower, 2pc Malubeth, and 2pc Lamae. Stacking healing received, magicka/spell power, and heal procs gives me a ton of self-healing power as well as decent DPS (8-10k single target, 15-25k AoE depending on circumstances). With resto staff on my off-bar, I can easily keep groups alive while tanking, or keep myself alive if the healer goes down.

    Also, you don't really need more than 25-27k Health for endgame content. Nearly all mechanics are such that you will either get 1-shotted by the boss no matter your health/resistances, or you will get healed before you die. If your healer does die, with self-heals, damage shields, and mitigation effects you can easily survive on your own as well with that much health.
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  • Autolycus
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    Hist Bark
    Why are we limiting this to vr16 sets only? Footman is hands-down the best tanking set in the game imo, even at vr14 stats.
    Edited by Autolycus on March 17, 2016 3:45PM
  • Silver_Strider
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    Hist Bark
    I like Leeching Plate for my Tank. Doesn't provide the resistances most of these sets do but that poison proc is just so lovely as it usually can keep me alive thru so much. I do plan on changing into Bahraha's Curse once I can acquire a full set in desirable traits, just because I play more magic based and elemental expert now provides the buff I need vs Thaumaturge.

    I've never seen nor heard of anyone using Vampire's Kiss, Shalidor's Curse or Trial by Fire on any tank. Not saying people probably don't use them, just saying that I've not seen people use them. Wish ZOS would buff them to be more desirable though. (I think Trial by Fire got a buff recently but still)

    Not a fan of Armor Master honestly. I tried it once and while it got me to the Resist cap in a hurry, the fact the buff only lasts 10 seconds, whereas most armor skills last 15+ seconds, made it seem like a chore to manage as well as a waste of resources due to constantly needing to reapply the buff before the armor buff even expired.

    Only Shield Stack tanks can make effective use of Whitestrake's Retribution or Brand of Imperium as they've most likely got a healthy bit of CP put into Bastion to aid in the shield these sets provide.

    Sceptre's Eye is a worst Histbark with the only benefit being more magic.

    Tormentor was a troll move by ZOS. Just when I think they finally give us an AOE taunt. Silly me. Still, I did have some mild amusement tormenting PUG groups when they saw their tank go Werewolf. The screams of panic and all the name calling. Fun times ;)

    Alessia's Bulwark is somewhat niche. Lot of resist for sure but that weapon damage debuff doesn't really help when facing magic foes. Maybe in PvP against stamina players but even then, 5 seconds won't save you from WB spammers.

    Black Rose was somewhat nice but since I like to build more for Magic than Stamina on my tanks, Templar being the exception, I found it didn't help me as much as I'd have liked it too, although the extra stamina did have a lot of uses to be sure.

    Death's Wind is such a trolly set in PvP. Just as someone is close to death, bam. Knocked down and they spam whatever heal they have to get them back to (near) full. Not bad in PvE either.

    Song of Lamae is ok as well. Damage is a bit low but the health restore is nice.

    Histbark is still King for most non NB tanks though. No real flaw with the set; good bonuses, 20% evasion on demand. Best set of the bunch IMO.
    Edited by Silver_Strider on March 18, 2016 11:06AM
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  • AegisWolf
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    Whitestrake's Retribution
    Hard to go wrong with Whitestrake's, especially if you use the other four pieces for stamina management.
    While Hist Bark certainly has its advantages, as well. Armor abilities are too expensive for Armor Master to really be useful.
    Edited by AegisWolf on March 18, 2016 4:05AM
  • Xandyaffonso
    Thanks for the answers. Basically I decide on my playstyle, class and focus, as someone said before. Yet I like to know the ones that are considered good and the ones that are considered bad.

  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Well I alwaysed used 5 whitestrakes and 2 pieces of hist bark that's a good combo increases resistances and health recovery but I have been trying out armor master and I want to like it I really do but it needs you to actually have one of the active armor skills slotted and well they either cost too much like 4K stamina to use and their are better versions of the general effect. Such as immovable increases resistance by 5K well DKs armor skill does the same also deals DOT damage on activation and deals damage to melee attackers and cost like 2K magicka. Like I want to like armor master it is a very good set but the actually armor skills need changed for the better.
  • ThatNeonZebraAgain
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    I like Leeching Plate for my Tank. Doesn't provide the resistances most of these sets do but that poison proc is just so lovely as it usually can keep me alive thru so much. I do plan on changing into Bahraha's Curse once I can acquire a full set in desirable traits, just because I play more magic based and elemental expert now provides the buff I need vs Thaumaturge.

    I've never seen nor heard of anyone using Vampire's Kiss, Shalidor's Curse or Trial by Fire on any tank. Not saying people probably don't use them, just saying that I've not seen people use them. Wish ZOS would buff them to be more desirable though. (I think Trial by Fire got a buff recently but still)

    Not a fan of Armor Master honestly. I tried it once and while it got me to the Resist cap in a hurry, the fact the buff only lasts 10 seconds, whereas most armor skills last 15+ seconds, made it seem like a chore to manage as well as a waste of resources due to constantly needing to reapply the buff before the armor buff even expired.

    Only Shield Stack tanks can make effective use of Whitestrake's Retribution or Brand of Imperium as they've most likely got a healthy bit of CP put into Bastion to aid in the shield these sets provide.

    Sceptre's Eye is a worst Histbark with the only benefit being more magic.

    Tormentor was a troll move by ZOS. Just when I think they finally give us an AOE taunt. Silly me. Still, I did have some mild amusement tormenting PUG groups when they saw their tank go Werewolf. The screams of panic and all the name calling. Fun times ;)

    Alessia's Bulwark is somewhat niche. Lot of resist for sure but that weapon damage debuff doesn't really help when facing magic foes. Maybe in PvP against stamina players but even then, 5 seconds won't save you from WB spammers.

    Black Rose was somewhat nice but since I like to build more for Magic than Stamina on my tanks, Templar being the exception, I found it didn't help me as much as I'd have liked it too, although the extra stamina did have a lot of uses to be sure.

    Death's Wind is such a trolly set in PvP. Just as someone is close to death, bam. Knocked down and they spam whatever heal they have to get them back to (near) full. Not bad in PvE either.

    Song of Lamae is ok as well. Damage is a bit low but the health restore is nice.

    Histbark is still King for most non NB tanks though. No real flaw with the set; good bonuses, 20% evasion on demand. Best set of the bunch IMO.

    Shalidor's Curse used to be pretty awesome before they severely nerfed it in the IC update. The 4pc bonus used to be another 4% healing received, and the 5pc bonus was a nearly 7k heal that proc'd at 40% health and had a 60 second cooldown. I ran it on my NB tank for a long time before they nerfed it. Juggernaut is a good replacement, but it has a longer cooldown, and I miss the additional 8% healing received since my build stacks that stat. I'd say Juggernaut is also superior to Lamae as well in terms of the 'oh crap' self-healing power. Now that ZOS upped the drop rate for rare dolmen sets, Draugr's Heritage is the better choice over Death's Wind (though the traits and slots are somewhat limiting).
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  • Silver_Strider
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    Hist Bark
    Snip

    Shalidor's Curse used to be pretty awesome before they severely nerfed it in the IC update. The 4pc bonus used to be another 4% healing received, and the 5pc bonus was a nearly 7k heal that proc'd at 40% health and had a 60 second cooldown. I ran it on my NB tank for a long time before they nerfed it. Juggernaut is a good replacement, but it has a longer cooldown, and I miss the additional 8% healing received since my build stacks that stat. I'd say Juggernaut is also superior to Lamae as well in terms of the 'oh crap' self-healing power. Now that ZOS upped the drop rate for rare dolmen sets, Draugr's Heritage is the better choice over Death's Wind (though the traits and slots are somewhat limiting).

    I honestly forgot about the Juggernaut set, namely because of how much of a hassle it can be to acquire it, same goes for Draugr's Heritage. I haven't been able to try either of them out because I usually get frustrated trying to get them and just go back to Leeching Plate, which I like because it has the 2 increased healing received, which is so nice on Argonian Tanks.
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  • ThatNeonZebraAgain
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    Snip

    Shalidor's Curse used to be pretty awesome before they severely nerfed it in the IC update. The 4pc bonus used to be another 4% healing received, and the 5pc bonus was a nearly 7k heal that proc'd at 40% health and had a 60 second cooldown. I ran it on my NB tank for a long time before they nerfed it. Juggernaut is a good replacement, but it has a longer cooldown, and I miss the additional 8% healing received since my build stacks that stat. I'd say Juggernaut is also superior to Lamae as well in terms of the 'oh crap' self-healing power. Now that ZOS upped the drop rate for rare dolmen sets, Draugr's Heritage is the better choice over Death's Wind (though the traits and slots are somewhat limiting).

    I honestly forgot about the Juggernaut set, namely because of how much of a hassle it can be to acquire it, same goes for Draugr's Heritage. I haven't been able to try either of them out because I usually get frustrated trying to get them and just go back to Leeching Plate, which I like because it has the 2 increased healing received, which is so nice on Argonian Tanks.

    Juggernaut is super easy to get now in Guild Stores; in the IC update they buffed it to VR16 and allowed it to come in all traits. While it comes in all armor slots, ZOS removed the shield slot from the loot table. Luckily I had a V14 Juggernaut shield stashed away before they did that. But Juggernaut will get harder to find now since TG update because THEY REMOVED ALL THOSE PVP SETS FROM THE REWARDS OF THE WORTH LOOT TABLE (I'm bitter, I know). They also upped the drop rate for Draugr Heritage (along with Lich set), so it is pretty common now.
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  • paulsimonps
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    Hist Bark
    Autolycus wrote: »
    Why are we limiting this to vr16 sets only? Footman is hands-down the best tanking set in the game imo, even at vr14 stats.

    Hahahaha NO! With the severe diminishing return on damage mitigation Footman is not as useful as you think. There are just to many passive sources for mitigation already and now that they added pure physical damage to the CP its even easier. Getting to around 80-85% total mitigation is super easy and using a footman on top of that would only bump it up around 3-4% if even that which is not worthy of a 5p bonus.
  • Savos_Saren
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    You didn't add "Kagrenac's Hope" for a magicka tank. It's got max health, max mag, mag regen, and spell power. This helps tremendously with heavy armored magicka tanks. (I've got a NB and a DK mag tank)
    Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.

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  • andy_s
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    Seducer :p Infinite spam of shield, chains and stuff on DK.
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