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So... About Those Treasure Troves...

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    babylon wrote: »
    What I find a little silly is they've reduced the drop rate on a set basically made to deal with Thieves Guild Heists so low it'll be just about impossible to ever find at your level as you're leveling...so they need to fix the troves and increase spawn rate once again.

    All those people whining about the troves haven't even considered how not having these sets at anything less than V16 (which is basically the only ones people are now selling, the spawn rates are so low) makes the few drops of this set pointless. People at V16 won't want them, they were only good for doing the Thieves Guild Heists, and now we have nothing for that particular content.

    The whole nerf thing is just /facepalm, as are the people happy with it^^^^^^^^

    How about you get yourself a Night's Silence set, which you can craft basically since the game launched? The 5-piece bonus is the same as one of the TG sets - no speed penalty on sneak - and I really don't see why you'd need any of the other bonuses. You're not locked out of that content just because you can't farm the troves.
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    All I am saying is that zenimax had a nice, fun way to explore the world and find treasure, albeit not good treasure; still fun to find. Now, it's utterly disgusting to even fathom finding one. I just don't want to do it. It ruined the luster of actually finding treasure.
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    daemonios wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    What I find a little silly is they've reduced the drop rate on a set basically made to deal with Thieves Guild Heists so low it'll be just about impossible to ever find at your level as you're leveling...so they need to fix the troves and increase spawn rate once again.

    All those people whining about the troves haven't even considered how not having these sets at anything less than V16 (which is basically the only ones people are now selling, the spawn rates are so low) makes the few drops of this set pointless. People at V16 won't want them, they were only good for doing the Thieves Guild Heists, and now we have nothing for that particular content.

    The whole nerf thing is just /facepalm, as are the people happy with it^^^^^^^^

    How about...snip

    I'm saying they introduced a set to go with the new content then removed the way to reliably obtain the set that goes with the new content.



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    Edited by babylon on March 18, 2016 2:18AM
  • babylon
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    All I am saying is that zenimax had a nice, fun way to explore the world and find treasure, albeit not good treasure; still fun to find. Now, it's utterly disgusting to even fathom finding one. I just don't want to do it. It ruined the luster of actually finding treasure.

    They basically wrecked some of the fun bits we enjoyed about the content. And removed some of the new content items from even limited availability to practically non-existence, items that go with the new content (sets/potions).
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    babylon wrote: »
    What I find a little silly is they've reduced the drop rate on a set basically made to deal with Thieves Guild Heists so low it'll be just about impossible to ever find at your level as you're leveling...so they need to fix the troves and increase spawn rate once again.

    All those people whining about the troves haven't even considered how not having these sets at anything less than V16 (which is basically the only ones people are now selling, the spawn rates are so low) makes the few drops of this set pointless. People at V16 won't want them, they were only good for doing the Thieves Guild Heists, and now we have nothing for that particular content.

    The whole nerf thing is just /facepalm, as are the people happy with it^^^^^^^^

    Actually all along the Thieve's Guild questline,they give you bits of the armor needed for those quests,piece by piece until you get it all. I have the whole set now,as I am sure anyone else who follows through the entire line does.Great stuff. The stuff in the troves wasnt for doing the quests,they were just random bits of good armor sets.I'm just glad I got two of the sets before it all went t-i-t-s up.
    I'm sorry they arent what you needed. :neutral:
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    What I find a little silly is they've reduced the drop rate on a set basically made to deal with Thieves Guild Heists so low it'll be just about impossible to ever find at your level as you're leveling...so they need to fix the troves and increase spawn rate once again.

    All those people whining about the troves haven't even considered how not having these sets at anything less than V16 (which is basically the only ones people are now selling, the spawn rates are so low) makes the few drops of this set pointless. People at V16 won't want them, they were only good for doing the Thieves Guild Heists, and now we have nothing for that particular content.

    The whole nerf thing is just /facepalm, as are the people happy with it^^^^^^^^

    The stuff in the troves wasnt for doing the quests,they were just random bits of good armor sets.

    The armour in the Troves is useful for that content. And now people under V16 will never see it, because almost nobody under that level bothers finding it let alone sell it.

    As for the potions, you can't argue they're not created for helping with that content in mind either, it's clear they were...now nobody will have any of those either and they weren't even tradeable.

    They nerfed Troves to oblivion, might as well remove them from the game, they're that non-existent, and definitely not fun any more.


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    Edited by babylon on March 18, 2016 6:46AM
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
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    50 within 3 hours. They are everywhere to be honest.

    Not in Hew's Bane.
    I have covered every inch of that place while taking a break from questing today,..and found only two.

    Look for them in a less active zone.

    Or in a zone where no one knows where they are, actually in Hew's bane i know some spots, where i can find them since they are really hidden .
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  • Megalex1
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    I'm just glad I didn't buy thieves guild and then get ripped off when they nerf troves to oblivion
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    Only found one, they're kinda worthless now.

    I enjoyed hunting them until this change.

    Really disappointed with ZOS.
    Edited by Vrienda on March 18, 2016 8:01AM
    Desperate for Roleplaying servers to bring open world non-organised RP to Elder Scrolls Online. Please ZOS.
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    1 hours 3 Min and 12 Second for Thieves Troves Repop
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    babylon wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    What I find a little silly is they've reduced the drop rate on a set basically made to deal with Thieves Guild Heists so low it'll be just about impossible to ever find at your level as you're leveling...so they need to fix the troves and increase spawn rate once again.

    All those people whining about the troves haven't even considered how not having these sets at anything less than V16 (which is basically the only ones people are now selling, the spawn rates are so low) makes the few drops of this set pointless. People at V16 won't want them, they were only good for doing the Thieves Guild Heists, and now we have nothing for that particular content.

    The whole nerf thing is just /facepalm, as are the people happy with it^^^^^^^^

    The stuff in the troves wasnt for doing the quests,they were just random bits of good armor sets.

    The armour in the Troves is useful for that content. And now people under V16 will never see it, because almost nobody under that level bothers finding it let alone sell it.

    As for the potions, you can't argue they're not created for helping with that content in mind either, it's clear they were...now nobody will have any of those either and they weren't even tradeable.

    They nerfed Troves to oblivion, might as well remove them from the game, they're that non-existent, and definitely not fun any more.


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    You keep saying that, but it's FALSE. I still found 5 yesterday. They and NOT non-existent.
    MrCray78 wrote: »
    1 hours 3 Min and 12 Second for Thieves Troves Repop

    It's not on a timer. They spawn when other troves in the same zone are found and despawned.
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    babylon wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    What I find a little silly is they've reduced the drop rate on a set basically made to deal with Thieves Guild Heists so low it'll be just about impossible to ever find at your level as you're leveling...so they need to fix the troves and increase spawn rate once again.

    All those people whining about the troves haven't even considered how not having these sets at anything less than V16 (which is basically the only ones people are now selling, the spawn rates are so low) makes the few drops of this set pointless. People at V16 won't want them, they were only good for doing the Thieves Guild Heists, and now we have nothing for that particular content.

    The whole nerf thing is just /facepalm, as are the people happy with it^^^^^^^^

    The stuff in the troves wasnt for doing the quests,they were just random bits of good armor sets.

    The armour in the Troves is useful for that content. And now people under V16 will never see it, because almost nobody under that level bothers finding it let alone sell it.

    As for the potions, you can't argue they're not created for helping with that content in mind either, it's clear they were...now nobody will have any of those either and they weren't even tradeable.

    They nerfed Troves to oblivion, might as well remove them from the game, they're that non-existent, and definitely not fun any more.


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    I find enough of them and am not even specifically looking from them - but just following the buzzing/hummng sound, whenever I get aware of it, which will lead me to the trove. The loot in troves is scaled to level, lower level characters do not get higher level gear anyway, so I do not really know what you are complaining about.

    Edit: "enough of them" as in "I have a good chance to get a set piece, edicts and enough stuff to fence for the day" within a casual play session.
    Edited by Lysette on March 18, 2016 8:27AM
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  • Volkodav
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    babylon wrote: »
    Volkodav wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    What I find a little silly is they've reduced the drop rate on a set basically made to deal with Thieves Guild Heists so low it'll be just about impossible to ever find at your level as you're leveling...so they need to fix the troves and increase spawn rate once again.

    All those people whining about the troves haven't even considered how not having these sets at anything less than V16 (which is basically the only ones people are now selling, the spawn rates are so low) makes the few drops of this set pointless. People at V16 won't want them, they were only good for doing the Thieves Guild Heists, and now we have nothing for that particular content.

    The whole nerf thing is just /facepalm, as are the people happy with it^^^^^^^^

    The stuff in the troves wasnt for doing the quests,they were just random bits of good armor sets.

    The armour in the Troves is useful for that content. And now people under V16 will never see it, because almost nobody under that level bothers finding it let alone sell it.

    As for the potions, you can't argue they're not created for helping with that content in mind either, it's clear they were...now nobody will have any of those either and they weren't even tradeable.

    They nerfed Troves to oblivion, might as well remove them from the game, they're that non-existent, and definitely not fun any more.


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    Well,yes,it IS helpful,.As I said good gear. However,it wasnt put there as a need to do the quests,which is what was said,and I replied to. :)
    Oh,and I just got four in Hews Bane.They're more often now,but not too often.
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    All these apologists, making excuses for their whiney nerf this behaviour, doesn't negate the fact that what was once fun, now isn't fun.

    The potions can't be found - OMG FIVE - someone found FIVE WHOLE TROVES IN A DAY!!!

    That like maybe 5-8 potions a day if they're lucky, because the drops are random. And they certainly won't find any set pieces for their level that is also what they need. And I bet they were looking hard. because I've wandered about since the nerf and found only one or two and I was looking out for them. I really don't believe the above guys who claim this is okay, because it's clearly not - they spawn less than treasure chests. A lot less. Why?

    Why aren't they just like treasure chests - why totally wreck them...this is content we paid for as well!
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    Haha, yeah guys. I am ashamed I purchased the DLC.
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    babylon wrote: »
    All these apologists, making excuses for their whiney nerf this behaviour, doesn't negate the fact that what was once fun, now isn't fun.

    The potions can't be found - OMG FIVE - someone found FIVE WHOLE TROVES IN A DAY!!!

    That like maybe 5-8 potions a day if they're lucky, because the drops are random. And they certainly won't find any set pieces for their level that is also what they need. And I bet they were looking hard. because I've wandered about since the nerf and found only one or two and I was looking out for them. I really don't believe the above guys who claim this is okay, because it's clearly not - they spawn less than treasure chests. A lot less. Why?

    Why aren't they just like treasure chests - why totally wreck them...this is content we paid for as well!

    It was stated by ZoS that the respawn time wasn't intended. Not sure why you can't seem to grip the fact thieves troves were never meant to respawn in the same location every minute.
    Briza Do'urdenx V16 Dunmer DK
    Jcon V16 Orc DK
    Vierna Do'urdenx V16 Bosmer NB
    Jarlaxle Baenrex V16 Dunmer NB
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    Xjcon wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    All these apologists, making excuses for their whiney nerf this behaviour, doesn't negate the fact that what was once fun, now isn't fun.

    The potions can't be found - OMG FIVE - someone found FIVE WHOLE TROVES IN A DAY!!!

    That like maybe 5-8 potions a day if they're lucky, because the drops are random. And they certainly won't find any set pieces for their level that is also what they need. And I bet they were looking hard. because I've wandered about since the nerf and found only one or two and I was looking out for them. I really don't believe the above guys who claim this is okay, because it's clearly not - they spawn less than treasure chests. A lot less. Why?

    Why aren't they just like treasure chests - why totally wreck them...this is content we paid for as well!

    It was stated by ZoS that the respawn time wasn't intended. Not sure why you can't seem to grip the fact thieves troves were never meant to respawn in the same location every minute.

    Can't see why you can't seem to "grip" the fact that what we're asking for is a re-evaluation of the troves, I suggest making them spawn much the same as treasure chests, which nobody complains about at all.
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    babylon wrote: »
    Xjcon wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    All these apologists, making excuses for their whiney nerf this behaviour, doesn't negate the fact that what was once fun, now isn't fun.

    The potions can't be found - OMG FIVE - someone found FIVE WHOLE TROVES IN A DAY!!!

    That like maybe 5-8 potions a day if they're lucky, because the drops are random. And they certainly won't find any set pieces for their level that is also what they need. And I bet they were looking hard. because I've wandered about since the nerf and found only one or two and I was looking out for them. I really don't believe the above guys who claim this is okay, because it's clearly not - they spawn less than treasure chests. A lot less. Why?

    Why aren't they just like treasure chests - why totally wreck them...this is content we paid for as well!

    It was stated by ZoS that the respawn time wasn't intended. Not sure why you can't seem to grip the fact thieves troves were never meant to respawn in the same location every minute.

    Can't see why you can't seem to "grip" the fact that what we're asking for is a re-evaluation of the troves, I suggest making them spawn much the same as treasure chests, which nobody complains about at all.

    I can't confirm but it sounds as tho it acts just like a treasure chest now, meaning if there is 50 spawns in 1 zone there is say 10 on the map at one time.
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    Jcon V16 Orc DK
    Vierna Do'urdenx V16 Bosmer NB
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    Xjcon wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    Xjcon wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    All these apologists, making excuses for their whiney nerf this behaviour, doesn't negate the fact that what was once fun, now isn't fun.

    The potions can't be found - OMG FIVE - someone found FIVE WHOLE TROVES IN A DAY!!!

    That like maybe 5-8 potions a day if they're lucky, because the drops are random. And they certainly won't find any set pieces for their level that is also what they need. And I bet they were looking hard. because I've wandered about since the nerf and found only one or two and I was looking out for them. I really don't believe the above guys who claim this is okay, because it's clearly not - they spawn less than treasure chests. A lot less. Why?

    Why aren't they just like treasure chests - why totally wreck them...this is content we paid for as well!

    It was stated by ZoS that the respawn time wasn't intended. Not sure why you can't seem to grip the fact thieves troves were never meant to respawn in the same location every minute.

    Can't see why you can't seem to "grip" the fact that what we're asking for is a re-evaluation of the troves, I suggest making them spawn much the same as treasure chests, which nobody complains about at all.

    I can't confirm but it sounds as tho it acts just like a treasure chest now, meaning if there is 50 spawns in 1 zone there is say 10 on the map at one time.

    I have a picture for you...they don't act anything like treasure chests.

    I found all these nodes and chests...and not one single trove during my play session - the coloured area shows where I went today, and I explored that whole patch thoroughly, and place was otherwise deserted so nobody else was there to take the troves before I came across them.

    None simply exist to be taken - they spawn so few they can't be found at all.

    System is broken. They need to be changed into something like how treasure chests behave - look how many chests I found, and runestones, and mines, and flowers etc...yet not one single trove.

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    For the last two days I have been finding them just fine.Not nearly as much as at first,but,so what. I was bummed when I couldnt find them,but when I gave up looking,they popped up all around Glenumbra,and in Hew's Bane now as well.
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    Yet the picture (above and below) doesn't lie.

    If they are there, why am I finding only treasure chests, flowers, rune nodes (all the things people would be farming if people were there farming anything) and yet not one single trove.

    They need to be increased to a normal spawn rate - what we have now is a bug, and it needs fixing. Should be same as treasure chests - nobody complains about treasure chests.

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    babylon wrote: »
    Xjcon wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    Xjcon wrote: »
    babylon wrote: »
    All these apologists, making excuses for their whiney nerf this behaviour, doesn't negate the fact that what was once fun, now isn't fun.

    The potions can't be found - OMG FIVE - someone found FIVE WHOLE TROVES IN A DAY!!!

    That like maybe 5-8 potions a day if they're lucky, because the drops are random. And they certainly won't find any set pieces for their level that is also what they need. And I bet they were looking hard. because I've wandered about since the nerf and found only one or two and I was looking out for them. I really don't believe the above guys who claim this is okay, because it's clearly not - they spawn less than treasure chests. A lot less. Why?

    Why aren't they just like treasure chests - why totally wreck them...this is content we paid for as well!

    It was stated by ZoS that the respawn time wasn't intended. Not sure why you can't seem to grip the fact thieves troves were never meant to respawn in the same location every minute.

    Can't see why you can't seem to "grip" the fact that what we're asking for is a re-evaluation of the troves, I suggest making them spawn much the same as treasure chests, which nobody complains about at all.

    I can't confirm but it sounds as tho it acts just like a treasure chest now, meaning if there is 50 spawns in 1 zone there is say 10 on the map at one time.

    I have a picture for you...they don't act anything like treasure chests.

    I found all these nodes and chests...and not one single trove during my play session - the coloured area shows where I went today, and I explored that whole patch thoroughly, and place was otherwise deserted so nobody else was there to take the troves before I came across them.

    None simply exist to be taken - they spawn so few they can't be found at all.

    System is broken. They need to be changed into something like how treasure chests behave - look how many chests I found, and runestones, and mines, and flowers etc...yet not one single trove.

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    Wow, that is just bad on Zenimax. I am shocked. You covered a lot of territory and in my opinion, you should have rewards for actively seeking out some new DLC content.
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