Elitism in Tamriel

Daraugh · March 2016

This one is storm proof, she carries an umbrella with her in case of cold wet rains.

Humatiel · March 2016

edited, no reason to restate what @Vangy put so elegantly.

BlackEar · March 2016

Judas Helviaryn wrote: »

Elitism is always going to be a problem, too many people leave their egos unchecked on the internet. The responsible thing is to ignore them, the righteous thing is to one-up them.

Here's your shot.

I hope it's a shooter.

Toxic_Hemlock · March 2016

Lyrander wrote: »

Toxic_Hemlock wrote: »

I avoid all group dungeons and content for many reasons, and most of those have been posted in this thread. Thanks for not making me regret my decision.

Yours Truly

A Pug

There are no reasons in this World...

Play Skyrim.

Group content is fun. I have good guilds which i run with. But i use a PUG lots of times too. Due to the timezone im living in.

Have met bad players, good players, funny people, strange women and new friends. And all the 'bad' groups/player i met i try to forget.
Sometimes when its only one annoying Player i get on TS and talk to my friends about them. That keeps me calm and I can still complete the dungeon for the sake of the rest of the group.

If Skyrim, or Oblivion even, had constant patches to make the game feel new again, and/or quarterly DLCs that added new content then yes I would. Unfortunately if you want a game that is monitored and added to beyond it's first year you are pretty much stuck with an MMO.

And I never want to be just that "one annoying player" that makes people get on TS to avoid. I admit I am not very skilled, nor am I a meta player. As in life though, I would rather be a loner than the stick in the mud that others would rather not play with due to not meeting their standards.

Kalebron · March 2016

We can all be elitist once there is a save option.

Kippesnikke · March 2016

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2HFpNaGrJc

Valrien · March 2016

Kippesnikke wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2HFpNaGrJc

@Kippesnikke I was waiting for someone to post this :P

Kippesnikke · March 2016

@Valrien i just had to. im so sorry ><

Valrien · March 2016

Kippesnikke wrote: »

@Valrien i just had to. im so sorry ><

@Kippesnikke

DHale · March 2016

I classify elitism as the ppl who run in the better guilds and have no business being Emp but get it as there ppl feed them ap send them wall repair kits take or defend keeps then run away so one person gets the moon die ticks. Get on thier other faction alts and let them kill them. And will get on other toons to reduce the ap they are accumulating to avoid getting more than the person they want to get Emp. Also they will share account info so other ppl play the toon running it non stop. Last night I saw who emp was then thought ok. So I got on every lowbie I have, now have emp slayer achievement on 8 toons. Even my level 11. Sad Sad Sad.

Valrien · March 2016

DHale wrote: »

I classify elitism as the ppl who run in the better guilds and have no business being Emp but get it as there ppl feed them ap send them wall repair kits take or defend keeps then run away so one person gets the moon die ticks. Get on thier other faction alts and let them kill them. And will get on other toons to reduce the ap they are accumulating to avoid getting more than the person they want to get Emp. Also they will share account info so other ppl play the toon running it non stop. Last night I saw who emp was then thought ok. So I got on every lowbie I have, now have emp slayer achievement on 8 toons. Even my level 11. Sad Sad Sad.

e·lit·ist
əˈlēdəst,āˈlēdəst/
noun
1.
a person who believes that a system or society should be ruled or dominated by an elite.
synonyms: aristocrat, blue blood; snob
"the elitists wield too much influence"
adjective
1.
favoring, advocating, or restricted to an elite.
"the old, elitist image of the string quartet"
synonyms: aristocratic, snobbish, snobby, superior, supercilious; More

How in the world is that elitist?

Thelon · March 2016

Daraugh wrote: »

This one is storm proof, she carries an umbrella with her in case of cold wet rains.

Soleya · March 2016

Anyone else see the irony in listing your achievement for completing solo content to get a group to do group content?

Valrien · March 2016

Slayer9292_ESO wrote: »

Anyone else see the irony in listing your achievement for completing solo content to get a group to do group content?

I do!

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · March 2016

Ah good ol Elitists. Gotta love having someone make you feel bad about your build, play style, etc. It may be easy to ignore but personally it still sometimes gets to me. For instance I was tanking vet EH and it was a normal run with no issues until the last boss. He took a little longer than normal to get down but we still finished him off without a group wipe. After we finished I get a message from one of the DPS saying my tanking was bad and I need to hold the boss better which I had aggro on the entire time. After telling him that he said "well if you run with my groups then they would call you out on your tanking and you need to change it". I should also mention that he was the only person who had a problem with me. So that's how I began to hate elitists and you should never make anyone feel bad about playing a game they enjoy. Idc who you are. That just is not acceptable IMO.

Valrien · March 2016

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Ah good ol Elitists. Gotta love having someone make you feel bad about your build, play style, etc. It may be easy to ignore but personally it still sometimes gets to me. For instance I was tanking vet EH and it was a normal run with no issues until the last boss. He took a little longer than normal to get down but we still finished him off without a group wipe. After we finished I get a message from one of the DPS saying my tanking was bad and I need to hold the boss better which I had aggro on the entire time. After telling him that he said "well if you run with my groups then they would call you out on your tanking and you need to change it". I should also mention that he was the only person who had a problem with me. So that's how I began to hate elitists and you should never make anyone feel bad about playing a game they enjoy. Idc who you are. That just is not acceptable IMO.

While he may have said it wrong, his intentions were (maybe) in the right place. Calling someone out on their mistakes is usually the best way to get people to improve, because if they don't know what they're doing wrong how can they improve?

You may have been holding aggro, but was the boss moving? If he was then your group-mate might mean that you could have been pulling him out of the AoE DoTs that the DPS are laying down, causing the fight to go longer. Some people love getting the most DPS they can so they can get pretty salty if the boss is moving all over the arena...the rest of the group may not have been like that though so that's why they didn't have a problem or they simply didn't notice.

All in all a lot of people have very good intentions and simply say things the wrong way...people just shouldn't get too pissed about it. The best thing is to talk to them and see what they mean. If they're simple being an arsehole just to be one then you can go off on them but some people genuinely want to help even if they're unable to communicate it well.

@FLuFFyxMuFFiN

CadenceRowan · March 2016

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

mb10 wrote: »

I've met some absolutely horrendous vr16 players recently for undaunted. Genuinely had no clue how to fight some of the bosses.

If you're wearing different monster helm and shoulder set with "fighters guild victor" as your title you arent exactly putting yourself in the shop window.

Maybe they are fighting them for the first time. Tell them the mechanics.

Yep, this. I have played through the game mostly solo, and have done very few group dungeons. I would like to do them, but I don't like the hassle of finding a group. I've had some good experiences though with people who knew the mechanics and explained them.

Being a VR level does not automatically mean that a player has done the dungeons, but many of us can learn if given the chance.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · March 2016

Valrien wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Ah good ol Elitists. Gotta love having someone make you feel bad about your build, play style, etc. It may be easy to ignore but personally it still sometimes gets to me. For instance I was tanking vet EH and it was a normal run with no issues until the last boss. He took a little longer than normal to get down but we still finished him off without a group wipe. After we finished I get a message from one of the DPS saying my tanking was bad and I need to hold the boss better which I had aggro on the entire time. After telling him that he said "well if you run with my groups then they would call you out on your tanking and you need to change it". I should also mention that he was the only person who had a problem with me. So that's how I began to hate elitists and you should never make anyone feel bad about playing a game they enjoy. Idc who you are. That just is not acceptable IMO.

While he may have said it wrong, his intentions were (maybe) in the right place. Calling someone out on their mistakes is usually the best way to get people to improve, because if they don't know what they're doing wrong how can they improve?

You may have been holding aggro, but was the boss moving? If he was then your group-mate might mean that you could have been pulling him out of the AoE DoTs that the DPS are laying down, causing the fight to go longer. Some people love getting the most DPS they can so they can get pretty salty if the boss is moving all over the arena...the rest of the group may not have been like that though so that's why they didn't have a problem or they simply didn't notice.

All in all a lot of people have very good intentions and simply say things the wrong way...people just shouldn't get too pissed about it. The best thing is to talk to them and see what they mean. If they're simple being an arsehole just to be one then you can go off on them but some people genuinely want to help even if they're unable to communicate it well.

@FLuFFyxMuFFiN

I tanked him how I always tank him. He stays in one spot. He rotated a little bit during the fight because I had to get out of the fire for a minute but other than that he never left the area I was tanking him in. And my other group members said I did a fine job and they never have any issues with me. So I am going to go ahead and say that it was an error on the other persons end ( but thats okay because we still finished it ) because that was the only time I have ever dealt with anyone like him other than the guy who was being DPS instead of heals (he was our healer) and yelled at me for dying but thats different story.

Valrien · March 2016

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Ah good ol Elitists. Gotta love having someone make you feel bad about your build, play style, etc. It may be easy to ignore but personally it still sometimes gets to me. For instance I was tanking vet EH and it was a normal run with no issues until the last boss. He took a little longer than normal to get down but we still finished him off without a group wipe. After we finished I get a message from one of the DPS saying my tanking was bad and I need to hold the boss better which I had aggro on the entire time. After telling him that he said "well if you run with my groups then they would call you out on your tanking and you need to change it". I should also mention that he was the only person who had a problem with me. So that's how I began to hate elitists and you should never make anyone feel bad about playing a game they enjoy. Idc who you are. That just is not acceptable IMO.

While he may have said it wrong, his intentions were (maybe) in the right place. Calling someone out on their mistakes is usually the best way to get people to improve, because if they don't know what they're doing wrong how can they improve?

You may have been holding aggro, but was the boss moving? If he was then your group-mate might mean that you could have been pulling him out of the AoE DoTs that the DPS are laying down, causing the fight to go longer. Some people love getting the most DPS they can so they can get pretty salty if the boss is moving all over the arena...the rest of the group may not have been like that though so that's why they didn't have a problem or they simply didn't notice.

All in all a lot of people have very good intentions and simply say things the wrong way...people just shouldn't get too pissed about it. The best thing is to talk to them and see what they mean. If they're simple being an arsehole just to be one then you can go off on them but some people genuinely want to help even if they're unable to communicate it well.

@FLuFFyxMuFFiN

I tanked him how I always tank him. He stays in one spot. He rotated a little bit during the fight because I had to get out of the fire for a minute but other than that he never left the area I was tanking him in. And my other group members said I did a fine job and they never have any issues with me. So I am going to go ahead and say that it was an error on the other persons end ( but thats okay because we still finished it ) because that was the only time I have ever dealt with anyone like him other than the guy who was being DPS instead of heals (he was our healer) and yelled at me for dying but thats different story.

If you did your job and he stayed still then I honestly can't see what he would have to complain about lol. Maybe your armor wasn't shiny enough or you didn't do enough DPS to carry him. People just *** to *** I guess eh Fluffy?

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · March 2016

Valrien wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Ah good ol Elitists. Gotta love having someone make you feel bad about your build, play style, etc. It may be easy to ignore but personally it still sometimes gets to me. For instance I was tanking vet EH and it was a normal run with no issues until the last boss. He took a little longer than normal to get down but we still finished him off without a group wipe. After we finished I get a message from one of the DPS saying my tanking was bad and I need to hold the boss better which I had aggro on the entire time. After telling him that he said "well if you run with my groups then they would call you out on your tanking and you need to change it". I should also mention that he was the only person who had a problem with me. So that's how I began to hate elitists and you should never make anyone feel bad about playing a game they enjoy. Idc who you are. That just is not acceptable IMO.

While he may have said it wrong, his intentions were (maybe) in the right place. Calling someone out on their mistakes is usually the best way to get people to improve, because if they don't know what they're doing wrong how can they improve?

You may have been holding aggro, but was the boss moving? If he was then your group-mate might mean that you could have been pulling him out of the AoE DoTs that the DPS are laying down, causing the fight to go longer. Some people love getting the most DPS they can so they can get pretty salty if the boss is moving all over the arena...the rest of the group may not have been like that though so that's why they didn't have a problem or they simply didn't notice.

All in all a lot of people have very good intentions and simply say things the wrong way...people just shouldn't get too pissed about it. The best thing is to talk to them and see what they mean. If they're simple being an arsehole just to be one then you can go off on them but some people genuinely want to help even if they're unable to communicate it well.

@FLuFFyxMuFFiN

I tanked him how I always tank him. He stays in one spot. He rotated a little bit during the fight because I had to get out of the fire for a minute but other than that he never left the area I was tanking him in. And my other group members said I did a fine job and they never have any issues with me. So I am going to go ahead and say that it was an error on the other persons end ( but thats okay because we still finished it ) because that was the only time I have ever dealt with anyone like him other than the guy who was being DPS instead of heals (he was our healer) and yelled at me for dying but thats different story.

If you did your job and he stayed still then I honestly can't see what he would have to complain about lol. Maybe your armor wasn't shiny enough or you didn't do enough DPS to carry him. People just *** to *** I guess eh Fluffy?

Yeah they do and I even apologized for rotating him a couple times but oh well I guess I will never do that again lol. And yes it could have been my armor that wasn't up to his standards lol

Xjcon · March 2016

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Ah good ol Elitists. Gotta love having someone make you feel bad about your build, play style, etc. It may be easy to ignore but personally it still sometimes gets to me. For instance I was tanking vet EH and it was a normal run with no issues until the last boss. He took a little longer than normal to get down but we still finished him off without a group wipe. After we finished I get a message from one of the DPS saying my tanking was bad and I need to hold the boss better which I had aggro on the entire time. After telling him that he said "well if you run with my groups then they would call you out on your tanking and you need to change it". I should also mention that he was the only person who had a problem with me. So that's how I began to hate elitists and you should never make anyone feel bad about playing a game they enjoy. Idc who you are. That just is not acceptable IMO.

While he may have said it wrong, his intentions were (maybe) in the right place. Calling someone out on their mistakes is usually the best way to get people to improve, because if they don't know what they're doing wrong how can they improve?

You may have been holding aggro, but was the boss moving? If he was then your group-mate might mean that you could have been pulling him out of the AoE DoTs that the DPS are laying down, causing the fight to go longer. Some people love getting the most DPS they can so they can get pretty salty if the boss is moving all over the arena...the rest of the group may not have been like that though so that's why they didn't have a problem or they simply didn't notice.

All in all a lot of people have very good intentions and simply say things the wrong way...people just shouldn't get too pissed about it. The best thing is to talk to them and see what they mean. If they're simple being an arsehole just to be one then you can go off on them but some people genuinely want to help even if they're unable to communicate it well.

@FLuFFyxMuFFiN

I tanked him how I always tank him. He stays in one spot. He rotated a little bit during the fight because I had to get out of the fire for a minute but other than that he never left the area I was tanking him in. And my other group members said I did a fine job and they never have any issues with me. So I am going to go ahead and say that it was an error on the other persons end ( but thats okay because we still finished it ) because that was the only time I have ever dealt with anyone like him other than the guy who was being DPS instead of heals (he was our healer) and yelled at me for dying but thats different story.

It's just a crap player who can't adjust to something he isn't used to. Even if there was something you did wrong but you 1 shot the boss how was it wrong? I don't care if you run circles around the boss while holding aggro so long as the boss doesn't turn and smack me.

Soleya · March 2016

Valrien wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Ah good ol Elitists. Gotta love having someone make you feel bad about your build, play style, etc. It may be easy to ignore but personally it still sometimes gets to me. For instance I was tanking vet EH and it was a normal run with no issues until the last boss. He took a little longer than normal to get down but we still finished him off without a group wipe. After we finished I get a message from one of the DPS saying my tanking was bad and I need to hold the boss better which I had aggro on the entire time. After telling him that he said "well if you run with my groups then they would call you out on your tanking and you need to change it". I should also mention that he was the only person who had a problem with me. So that's how I began to hate elitists and you should never make anyone feel bad about playing a game they enjoy. Idc who you are. That just is not acceptable IMO.

While he may have said it wrong, his intentions were (maybe) in the right place. Calling someone out on their mistakes is usually the best way to get people to improve, because if they don't know what they're doing wrong how can they improve?

You may have been holding aggro, but was the boss moving? If he was then your group-mate might mean that you could have been pulling him out of the AoE DoTs that the DPS are laying down, causing the fight to go longer. Some people love getting the most DPS they can so they can get pretty salty if the boss is moving all over the arena...the rest of the group may not have been like that though so that's why they didn't have a problem or they simply didn't notice.

All in all a lot of people have very good intentions and simply say things the wrong way...people just shouldn't get too pissed about it. The best thing is to talk to them and see what they mean. If they're simple being an arsehole just to be one then you can go off on them but some people genuinely want to help even if they're unable to communicate it well.

@FLuFFyxMuFFiN

I've seen Bogden sometimes glitch out and turn and even attack others while still under taunt.

Worst dungeon group I've been with was in EH. I was tanking. Our healer was someone just using a resto staff. I ended up using Vigor and Refeshing Path to heal myself most of the time. One DPS was using sword and shield (he kept pulling taunt off me on most fights). Both the DPS were so bad, Bogden didn't get below 85% health before the entire room was on fire. The healers out healed the DPS and then when they tried to kill the healers it took way too long. We then tried it on normal and couldn't get bogden below 70% before everyone was killed. Finally I gave up, a friend brought her group and we beat Bogden in 1 minute 20 seconds.

Valrien · March 2016

Xjcon wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Ah good ol Elitists. Gotta love having someone make you feel bad about your build, play style, etc. It may be easy to ignore but personally it still sometimes gets to me. For instance I was tanking vet EH and it was a normal run with no issues until the last boss. He took a little longer than normal to get down but we still finished him off without a group wipe. After we finished I get a message from one of the DPS saying my tanking was bad and I need to hold the boss better which I had aggro on the entire time. After telling him that he said "well if you run with my groups then they would call you out on your tanking and you need to change it". I should also mention that he was the only person who had a problem with me. So that's how I began to hate elitists and you should never make anyone feel bad about playing a game they enjoy. Idc who you are. That just is not acceptable IMO.

While he may have said it wrong, his intentions were (maybe) in the right place. Calling someone out on their mistakes is usually the best way to get people to improve, because if they don't know what they're doing wrong how can they improve?

You may have been holding aggro, but was the boss moving? If he was then your group-mate might mean that you could have been pulling him out of the AoE DoTs that the DPS are laying down, causing the fight to go longer. Some people love getting the most DPS they can so they can get pretty salty if the boss is moving all over the arena...the rest of the group may not have been like that though so that's why they didn't have a problem or they simply didn't notice.

All in all a lot of people have very good intentions and simply say things the wrong way...people just shouldn't get too pissed about it. The best thing is to talk to them and see what they mean. If they're simple being an arsehole just to be one then you can go off on them but some people genuinely want to help even if they're unable to communicate it well.

@FLuFFyxMuFFiN

I tanked him how I always tank him. He stays in one spot. He rotated a little bit during the fight because I had to get out of the fire for a minute but other than that he never left the area I was tanking him in. And my other group members said I did a fine job and they never have any issues with me. So I am going to go ahead and say that it was an error on the other persons end ( but thats okay because we still finished it ) because that was the only time I have ever dealt with anyone like him other than the guy who was being DPS instead of heals (he was our healer) and yelled at me for dying but thats different story.

It's just a crap player who can't adjust to something he isn't used to. Even if there was something you did wrong but you 1 shot the boss how was it wrong? I don't care if you run circles around the boss while holding aggro so long as the boss doesn't turn and smack me.

A tank should be able to keep the boss in one place. Many builds (especially with the new relevance of Wall of Elements) use AoE DoTs and they are a HUGE increase to damage. It's not just the tanks job to hold aggro, it's to support the group. Buffs, staying still, maybe some off-DPS. Hell I can hold aggro on my full-DPS and slot a skill to stay alive but that doesn't make me a proper tank.

Adaptation is a good skill to have, but I have a right to say something to my tank if he/she can't stay close to my Wall and Liquid Lightning. If someone does something wrong (yes, even if you end up finishing the run) tell them. Don't shelter them from the fact that they did something wrong just because you're afraid to hurt their feelings.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · March 2016

Slayer9292_ESO wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Ah good ol Elitists. Gotta love having someone make you feel bad about your build, play style, etc. It may be easy to ignore but personally it still sometimes gets to me. For instance I was tanking vet EH and it was a normal run with no issues until the last boss. He took a little longer than normal to get down but we still finished him off without a group wipe. After we finished I get a message from one of the DPS saying my tanking was bad and I need to hold the boss better which I had aggro on the entire time. After telling him that he said "well if you run with my groups then they would call you out on your tanking and you need to change it". I should also mention that he was the only person who had a problem with me. So that's how I began to hate elitists and you should never make anyone feel bad about playing a game they enjoy. Idc who you are. That just is not acceptable IMO.

While he may have said it wrong, his intentions were (maybe) in the right place. Calling someone out on their mistakes is usually the best way to get people to improve, because if they don't know what they're doing wrong how can they improve?

You may have been holding aggro, but was the boss moving? If he was then your group-mate might mean that you could have been pulling him out of the AoE DoTs that the DPS are laying down, causing the fight to go longer. Some people love getting the most DPS they can so they can get pretty salty if the boss is moving all over the arena...the rest of the group may not have been like that though so that's why they didn't have a problem or they simply didn't notice.

All in all a lot of people have very good intentions and simply say things the wrong way...people just shouldn't get too pissed about it. The best thing is to talk to them and see what they mean. If they're simple being an arsehole just to be one then you can go off on them but some people genuinely want to help even if they're unable to communicate it well.

@FLuFFyxMuFFiN

I've seen Bogden sometimes glitch out and turn and even attack others while still under taunt.

Worst dungeon group I've been with was in EH. I was tanking. Our healer was someone just using a resto staff. I ended up using Vigor and Refeshing Path to heal myself most of the time. One DPS was using sword and shield (he kept pulling taunt off me on most fights). Both the DPS were so bad, Bogden didn't get below 85% health before the entire room was on fire. The healers out healed the DPS and then when they tried to kill the healers it took way too long. We then tried it on normal and couldn't get bogden below 70% before everyone was killed. Finally I gave up, a friend brought her group and we beat Bogden in 1 minute 20 seconds.

Lol sounds like a fun time. I have had that glitch happen a few times before as well.

Valrien · March 2016

Slayer9292_ESO wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

FLuFFyxMuFFiN wrote: »

Ah good ol Elitists. Gotta love having someone make you feel bad about your build, play style, etc. It may be easy to ignore but personally it still sometimes gets to me. For instance I was tanking vet EH and it was a normal run with no issues until the last boss. He took a little longer than normal to get down but we still finished him off without a group wipe. After we finished I get a message from one of the DPS saying my tanking was bad and I need to hold the boss better which I had aggro on the entire time. After telling him that he said "well if you run with my groups then they would call you out on your tanking and you need to change it". I should also mention that he was the only person who had a problem with me. So that's how I began to hate elitists and you should never make anyone feel bad about playing a game they enjoy. Idc who you are. That just is not acceptable IMO.

While he may have said it wrong, his intentions were (maybe) in the right place. Calling someone out on their mistakes is usually the best way to get people to improve, because if they don't know what they're doing wrong how can they improve?

You may have been holding aggro, but was the boss moving? If he was then your group-mate might mean that you could have been pulling him out of the AoE DoTs that the DPS are laying down, causing the fight to go longer. Some people love getting the most DPS they can so they can get pretty salty if the boss is moving all over the arena...the rest of the group may not have been like that though so that's why they didn't have a problem or they simply didn't notice.

All in all a lot of people have very good intentions and simply say things the wrong way...people just shouldn't get too pissed about it. The best thing is to talk to them and see what they mean. If they're simple being an arsehole just to be one then you can go off on them but some people genuinely want to help even if they're unable to communicate it well.

@FLuFFyxMuFFiN

I've seen Bogden sometimes glitch out and turn and even attack others while still under taunt.

Worst dungeon group I've been with was in EH. I was tanking. Our healer was someone just using a resto staff. I ended up using Vigor and Refeshing Path to heal myself most of the time. One DPS was using sword and shield (he kept pulling taunt off me on most fights). Both the DPS were so bad, Bogden didn't get below 85% health before the entire room was on fire. The healers out healed the DPS and then when they tried to kill the healers it took way too long. We then tried it on normal and couldn't get bogden below 70% before everyone was killed. Finally I gave up, a friend brought her group and we beat Bogden in 1 minute 20 seconds.

Sounds like a good time lol

Molec · March 2016

AOECAPS wrote: »

I've recently noticed an uptick in elitism since more and more ppl (cough sorcs) are completing maelstrom I was wondering if anyone else has noticed it. From players announcing that they are a "storm caller"looking for a group at the Undaunted Enclave or sending out lists of "great and terrible players" has anyone else noticed this recently or have I been blind to this crap for to long.

A healer once said to the highly experienced group I was in "I get offended by low DPS and will forget to heal in such a situation" prior to running vWGT.... Ego driven moronic people

Valrien · March 2016

Molec wrote: »

AOECAPS wrote: »

I've recently noticed an uptick in elitism since more and more ppl (cough sorcs) are completing maelstrom I was wondering if anyone else has noticed it. From players announcing that they are a "storm caller"looking for a group at the Undaunted Enclave or sending out lists of "great and terrible players" has anyone else noticed this recently or have I been blind to this crap for to long.

A healer once said to the highly experienced group I was in "I get offended by low DPS and will forget to heal in such a situation" prior to running vWGT.... Ego driven moronic people

I can see that being a Tumblr post. "Your DPS offends me so much that I can't even heal and that should be illegal."

laksikus · March 2016

Molec wrote: »

AOECAPS wrote: »

I've recently noticed an uptick in elitism since more and more ppl (cough sorcs) are completing maelstrom I was wondering if anyone else has noticed it. From players announcing that they are a "storm caller"looking for a group at the Undaunted Enclave or sending out lists of "great and terrible players" has anyone else noticed this recently or have I been blind to this crap for to long.

A healer once said to the highly experienced group I was in "I get offended by low DPS and will forget to heal in such a situation" prior to running vWGT.... Ego driven moronic people

well, he is true, if DD dont do their job, healer will start doing dps and therefore not focus fully on healing^^

Im no elitist, but there are dungeons i will only do with people that completed it before.
vWGT and ICP is just a struggle with people that never even did normal before. and i dont want to waste my time for 2h, in which i could do PVP too.
same with vCOA, but that depends on my mood and how much time i have.

UrQuan · March 2016

Slayer9292_ESO wrote: »

Anyone else see the irony in listing your achievement for completing solo content to get a group to do group content?

IKR? The skills and builds required to succeed in the hardest solo content are not the same as the skills and builds required to succeed in the hardest group content. There's some overlap for sure, and in theory a player who's good enough to do one should usually be good enough to adapt to the other, but they're definitely not the same thing.

Tonnopesce · March 2016

I can understand the necessity to have good players for a WGT run and really good players for a ICP run (usually when the daily gold is ICP i go PVP), but the other dungeon can be done facerolling the keyboard and if someone propose himself like a stormproof DPS is just to try to skip the infinite DPS queue.
Someone will be impressed by that and group him immediatly, nothing else, no elitism here just a tricky way to join a group fast.