NeoXanthus wrote: »I run Quad-SLI liquid cooled factory overclocked GTX Titans attached to three GSYNC displays with a combined resolution of 7680x1440. When the game was in DX9 mode the cards ran at about 50% usage each and the FPS was between 90 and 100fps (capped at 100 with FRAPS.) My power supplies for the system are dual 1500 watt and a single 750 watt. They all connect into a L6-30 twist lock PDU that supplies only 220v power. The wattage is measured at the wall when the game was in DX9 mode it was around 1220 watts with about 100 watt in variances. Now is DX11 mode FPS are around 35 to 50 although with GSYNC all still looks great, but the video cards are at 99% usage and my wattage measured at the wall is 1870 watts with about 150watt in variances. That is about a 650 watt increase.
When the computer was in DX9 mode:
Winter cost is about $0.13 an hour
Summer cost is about $0.16 an hour
Computer in DX11 mode:
Winter cost is about $0.21 an hour
Summer cost will be about $0.32 an hour
Not to mention the air-condition works harder when the computer is putting off more heat, and with the ridiculous grinds in this game this is going to get expensive. Yeah, yeah, I know this system was very expensive 2+ years ago but that is CAPEX not OPEX cost. You should have a choice to change it back to DX9.
joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »You people are all missing the point. All he is asking for is a choice between dx9 and dx11. Albeit he looks silly because he had a 6k +$$$ machine, but his point is still valid. I myself have noticed a huge fps hit in cyrodil which is effecting my play. I used to be at 40 during rvr but now I'm at 15-25. By forcing people to go dx11 we all now have to shell out more $$$ to keep up with this game. Give us an option.
NeoXanthus wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Sad this guy has all this equipment and no idea how to configure it properly.
This is not configuration issue, this is a simple DX9 vs DX11 performance. It is not just related to ESO or Nvidia or my rig. The problem is DX9 is faster than DX11 and as the resolution increase the problem get worse. I am assuming most rigs in this forum are only 1920x1080. The problem at 1920x1080 would be barely noticeable but increase the resolution to 4k or 7680x1440 and the gap between DX9 and DX11 is huge.
Look at this Toms hardware comparison with AMD on Dirt between DX11 and DX9 at 2560x1600. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/dirt-2-performance-benchmark,2508-8.html
NeoXanthus wrote: »Bodycounter wrote: »Firstly: Your GPU can't be the bottleneck of your system. Either your computer is badly optimized for Eso or Eso is badly optimized for your setup (i could imagine, that Eso is not able to properly run at your resolution).
Secondly: It's possible, that your CPU bottlenecks your system. It has to do a lot of math for your setup to function properly. What's your CPU?
The CPU is getting long in the tooth but I don't see it being utilize more than 60% on any one core. It is a Intel i7-4960X not-overclocked.
NeoXanthus wrote: »sirrmattus wrote: »PIC OR YOU ARE LYING!!
99 percent ussage in DX11
http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w500/NeoXanthus/cards_zpsfcdqk7xi.jpg
Monitors
http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w500/NeoXanthus/monitors_zps5cphrj2m.jpg
Cooling
http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w500/NeoXanthus/cooling_zpsczskge2x.jpg
inside
http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w500/NeoXanthus/inside_zpsara5kjpn.jpg
The box is not pretty, no flashy lights, heck not even that clean. But it does have 4 Titan and brought to it's knees after the DX11 "upgrade."
joshdm2001_ESO wrote: »You people are all missing the point. All he is asking for is a choice between dx9 and dx11. Albeit he looks silly because he had a 6k +$$$ machine, but his point is still valid. I myself have noticed a huge fps hit in cyrodil which is effecting my play. I used to be at 40 during rvr but now I'm at 15-25. By forcing people to go dx11 we all now have to shell out more $$$ to keep up with this game. Give us an option.
WalkingLegacy wrote: »OP needs to look at his SLI profile for his problem.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »How about I just sent ya $10 it'll pay for months of your higher bill. Boom prob solved. Also if you were to clean your fans might see less heat.
NeoXanthus wrote: »Lmao
Games and technology advance. Get with the times or get left behind. Sorry, but you got no arguement.
I am not stuck looking at old technology it is Just because DX11 is newer does not make it better than DX9 for gaming. Look at it in reverse let’s say somebody had a technology DX9 that would use 30% less power and be 70% faster frame rate on large resolutions, the only drawback is NPC faces don’t look quite as real and water is not as real ether.
FakeAlGore wrote: »@NeoXanthus - Unlike most of the commentators here, I'll actually attempt to help you. Can you post some screenshots of your SLI profile for ESO? Do you have "Force alternate frame rendering" enabled? If so, what is the value you are using? Is "GPUSmoothingFrames" set to "0" in your UserSettings.ini file for ESO? Is Vsync disabled (especially since you're using G-SYNC monitors)?
NeoXanthus wrote: »FakeAlGore wrote: »@NeoXanthus - Unlike most of the commentators here, I'll actually attempt to help you. Can you post some screenshots of your SLI profile for ESO? Do you have "Force alternate frame rendering" enabled? If so, what is the value you are using? Is "GPUSmoothingFrames" set to "0" in your UserSettings.ini file for ESO? Is Vsync disabled (especially since you're using G-SYNC monitors)?
FakeAlGore – I appreciate the help.
Q. Can you post some screenshots of your SLI profile for ESO?
A. Do you mean from Nvidia Inspector?
Q. Do you have "Force alternate frame rendering" enabled?
A. It is set to 2.
Q. “GPUSmoothingFrames" set to "0" in your UserSettings.ini
A. It is set to “0”
Q. Is Vsync disabled (especially since you're using G-SYNC monitors)?
A. It is disabled.
Keep in mind when this game was running in DX9 mode it was solid at 7680x1440 by 100 FPS all the time except in certain PvP areas then it would drop to 90.
NeoXanthus wrote: »FakeAlGore wrote: »@NeoXanthus - Unlike most of the commentators here, I'll actually attempt to help you. Can you post some screenshots of your SLI profile for ESO? Do you have "Force alternate frame rendering" enabled? If so, what is the value you are using? Is "GPUSmoothingFrames" set to "0" in your UserSettings.ini file for ESO? Is Vsync disabled (especially since you're using G-SYNC monitors)?
FakeAlGore – I appreciate the help.
Q. Can you post some screenshots of your SLI profile for ESO?
A. Do you mean from Nvidia Inspector?
Q. Do you have "Force alternate frame rendering" enabled?
A. It is set to 2.
Q. “GPUSmoothingFrames" set to "0" in your UserSettings.ini
A. It is set to “0”
Q. Is Vsync disabled (especially since you're using G-SYNC monitors)?
A. It is disabled.
Keep in mind when this game was running in DX9 mode it was solid at 7680x1440 by 100 FPS all the time except in certain PvP areas then it would drop to 90.
WalkingLegacy wrote: »NeoXanthus wrote: »FakeAlGore wrote: »@NeoXanthus - Unlike most of the commentators here, I'll actually attempt to help you. Can you post some screenshots of your SLI profile for ESO? Do you have "Force alternate frame rendering" enabled? If so, what is the value you are using? Is "GPUSmoothingFrames" set to "0" in your UserSettings.ini file for ESO? Is Vsync disabled (especially since you're using G-SYNC monitors)?
FakeAlGore – I appreciate the help.
Q. Can you post some screenshots of your SLI profile for ESO?
A. Do you mean from Nvidia Inspector?
Q. Do you have "Force alternate frame rendering" enabled?
A. It is set to 2.
Q. “GPUSmoothingFrames" set to "0" in your UserSettings.ini
A. It is set to “0”
Q. Is Vsync disabled (especially since you're using G-SYNC monitors)?
A. It is disabled.
Keep in mind when this game was running in DX9 mode it was solid at 7680x1440 by 100 FPS all the time except in certain PvP areas then it would drop to 90.NeoXanthus wrote: »FakeAlGore wrote: »@NeoXanthus - Unlike most of the commentators here, I'll actually attempt to help you. Can you post some screenshots of your SLI profile for ESO? Do you have "Force alternate frame rendering" enabled? If so, what is the value you are using? Is "GPUSmoothingFrames" set to "0" in your UserSettings.ini file for ESO? Is Vsync disabled (especially since you're using G-SYNC monitors)?
FakeAlGore – I appreciate the help.
Q. Can you post some screenshots of your SLI profile for ESO?
A. Do you mean from Nvidia Inspector?
Q. Do you have "Force alternate frame rendering" enabled?
A. It is set to 2.
Q. “GPUSmoothingFrames" set to "0" in your UserSettings.ini
A. It is set to “0”
Q. Is Vsync disabled (especially since you're using G-SYNC monitors)?
A. It is disabled.
Keep in mind when this game was running in DX9 mode it was solid at 7680x1440 by 100 FPS all the time except in certain PvP areas then it would drop to 90.
Because I have lost it already or never saw it mentioned.
What Nvidia driver version are you on?
AhPook_Is_Here wrote: »Have you tried installing some solar panels on the roof? It can lower your electricity costs quite a bit once you get past the initial hardware cost.
NeoXanthus wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »NeoXanthus wrote: »FakeAlGore wrote: »@NeoXanthus - Unlike most of the commentators here, I'll actually attempt to help you. Can you post some screenshots of your SLI profile for ESO? Do you have "Force alternate frame rendering" enabled? If so, what is the value you are using? Is "GPUSmoothingFrames" set to "0" in your UserSettings.ini file for ESO? Is Vsync disabled (especially since you're using G-SYNC monitors)?
FakeAlGore – I appreciate the help.
Q. Can you post some screenshots of your SLI profile for ESO?
A. Do you mean from Nvidia Inspector?
Q. Do you have "Force alternate frame rendering" enabled?
A. It is set to 2.
Q. “GPUSmoothingFrames" set to "0" in your UserSettings.ini
A. It is set to “0”
Q. Is Vsync disabled (especially since you're using G-SYNC monitors)?
A. It is disabled.
Keep in mind when this game was running in DX9 mode it was solid at 7680x1440 by 100 FPS all the time except in certain PvP areas then it would drop to 90.NeoXanthus wrote: »FakeAlGore wrote: »@NeoXanthus - Unlike most of the commentators here, I'll actually attempt to help you. Can you post some screenshots of your SLI profile for ESO? Do you have "Force alternate frame rendering" enabled? If so, what is the value you are using? Is "GPUSmoothingFrames" set to "0" in your UserSettings.ini file for ESO? Is Vsync disabled (especially since you're using G-SYNC monitors)?
FakeAlGore – I appreciate the help.
Q. Can you post some screenshots of your SLI profile for ESO?
A. Do you mean from Nvidia Inspector?
Q. Do you have "Force alternate frame rendering" enabled?
A. It is set to 2.
Q. “GPUSmoothingFrames" set to "0" in your UserSettings.ini
A. It is set to “0”
Q. Is Vsync disabled (especially since you're using G-SYNC monitors)?
A. It is disabled.
Keep in mind when this game was running in DX9 mode it was solid at 7680x1440 by 100 FPS all the time except in certain PvP areas then it would drop to 90.
Because I have lost it already or never saw it mentioned.
What Nvidia driver version are you on?
It is Windows 8.1x64 with Nvidia driver 350.12 I can use as high as 353.62. However I have used newer drivers which work great on other titles but lockup ESO randomly within a few minutes. Really not big deal for me as I only play ESO. Also I am not the only one with this lockup issue with ESO on new Nvidia drivers. See other thread.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/226139/if-youre-crashing-and-running-an-nvidia-card
NeoXanthus wrote: »I run Quad-SLI liquid cooled factory overclocked GTX Titans attached to three GSYNC displays with a combined resolution of 7680x1440. When the game was in DX9 mode the cards ran at about 50% usage each and the FPS was between 90 and 100fps (capped at 100 with FRAPS.) My power supplies for the system are dual 1500 watt and a single 750 watt. They all connect into a L6-30 twist lock PDU that supplies only 220v power. The wattage is measured at the wall when the game was in DX9 mode it was around 1220 watts with about 100 watt in variances. Now is DX11 mode FPS are around 35 to 50 although with GSYNC all still looks great, but the video cards are at 99% usage and my wattage measured at the wall is 1870 watts with about 150watt in variances. That is about a 650 watt increase.
When the computer was in DX9 mode:
Winter cost is about $0.13 an hour
Summer cost is about $0.16 an hour
Computer in DX11 mode:
Winter cost is about $0.21 an hour
Summer cost will be about $0.32 an hour
Not to mention the air-condition works harder when the computer is putting off more heat, and with the ridiculous grinds in this game this is going to get expensive. Yeah, yeah, I know this system was very expensive 2+ years ago but that is CAPEX not OPEX cost. You should have a choice to change it back to DX9.
FakeAlGore wrote: »@NeoXanthus - I agree with @WalkingLegacy about removing your drivers completely and re-installing. However, that user posted an older tool. Please use the updated Display Driver Uninstaller (also hosted at Guru3D).
Before you do anything below, make sure to take a snapshot of your system. If you're using a product like Acronis True Image, create a new image. If not, create a System Restore Point. Now go and download the latest driver package from Nvidia so you won't have to mess with it with no display driver installed.
- Run DDU and let it reboot your system into safe mode. Let it do its thing and reboot back to normal mode.
- Install the new driver you downloaded when your system is back up. Choose Express Installation.
- Just to be safe, reboot about a minute after it finishes installing.
- Now open GeForce Experience, let it scan for games, and choose to optimize ESO (there may be two entries, choose to optimize both).
- Load it up and see what happens.
EDIT: To everyone in this thread that isn't trying to help @NeoXanthus - for the love of Akatosh, please take the trolling somewhere else. If you're not actively trying to help, don't post. A moderator has come in here once already.
Running 4 Titans and complain about power usage? I'm speechless ...