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The change from DX9 to DX11 as a consumer of this game is costing me more money to run.
NeoXanthus
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I run Quad-SLI liquid cooled factory overclocked GTX Titans attached to three GSYNC displays with a combined resolution of 7680x1440. When the game was in DX9 mode the cards ran at about 50% usage each and the FPS was between 90 and 100fps (capped at 100 with FRAPS.) My power supplies for the system are dual 1500 watt and a single 750 watt. They all connect into a L6-30 twist lock PDU that supplies only 220v power. The wattage is measured at the wall when the game was in DX9 mode it was around 1220 watts with about 100 watt in variances. Now is DX11 mode FPS are around 35 to 50 although with GSYNC all still looks great, but the video cards are at 99% usage and my wattage measured at the wall is 1870 watts with about 150watt in variances. That is about a 650 watt increase.
When the computer was in DX9 mode:
Winter cost is about $0.13 an hour
Summer cost is about $0.16 an hour
Computer in DX11 mode:
Winter cost is about $0.21 an hour
Summer cost will be about $0.32 an hour
Not to mention the air-condition works harder when the computer is putting off more heat, and with the ridiculous grinds in this game this is going to get expensive. Yeah, yeah, I know this system was very expensive 2+ years ago but that is CAPEX not OPEX cost. You should have a choice to change it back to DX9.
When the computer was in DX9 mode:
Winter cost is about $0.13 an hour
Summer cost is about $0.16 an hour
Computer in DX11 mode:
Winter cost is about $0.21 an hour
Summer cost will be about $0.32 an hour
Not to mention the air-condition works harder when the computer is putting off more heat, and with the ridiculous grinds in this game this is going to get expensive. Yeah, yeah, I know this system was very expensive 2+ years ago but that is CAPEX not OPEX cost. You should have a choice to change it back to DX9.
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Robbmrp✭✭✭✭✭
✭Two words..... Solar Panels......
From the looks of your rig....you can afford to get them.....NA Server - Kildair27 -
Whatzituyah✭✭✭✭Running 4 Titans and complain about power usage? I'm speechless ...
Just imagine if those were Titan Blacks.https://twitch.tv/whatzituyah2
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NeoXanthus✭✭✭✭Two words..... Solar Panels......
From the looks of your rig....you can afford to get them.....
I have looked at solar it is great idea if they were more inexpensive to start with, were I live with the amount of sun it will take about 11 to 18 years to pay itself back. Unfortunately it is a feel good about the environment decision not really practical cost savings view, and ironic too as there is a huge environmental cost of making solar panels compounded if you also have a battery system.
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NeoXanthus✭✭✭✭
As for the computer cost 6k it was more than that. But everything system wise was my own decision. The change from DX9 to DX11 was something forced I see no benefit from it and it simply cost more to use for very little to any gain.2 -
Enemy-of-Coldharbour✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I can't tell if the OP is bragging or complaining...
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Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Perhaps the answer will be to play with a single card and monitor like the rest of us
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Seriously, a system like that is always going to be on the borderline so far as reliability, compatibility and running cost are concerned. I don't personally feel that "They should reinstate the lowest graphics standard because my over-the-top graphics system isn't up to running anything better than that at reasonable cost" is a particularly striking argument!8 -
dsalter✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »I can't tell if the OP is bragging or complaining...
BraplainingPLEASE REPLY TO ME WITH @dsalter otherwise i'm likely to miss the reply if its not my own thread
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✭✭✭✭✭With your budget, I don't know why you didn't go the REAL liquid cooling way...
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Samsayia✭✭✭NeoXanthus wrote: »As for the computer cost 6k it was more than that. But everything system wise was my own decision. The change from DX9 to DX11 was something forced I see no benefit from it and it simply cost more to use for very little to any gain.NeoXanthus wrote: »Yeah, yeah, I know this system was very expensive 2+ years ago but that is CAPEX not OPEX cost. You should have a choice to change it back to DX9.
This disclaimer, herr OP, does not cut it and you're getting a proper scolding over this. You cannot build yourself a rig of that intense cost, a rig that you designed to take a lot of power to run due directly to said standards and intense cost you chose, and then complain about the tiny cents on the dollars difference in power usage. I get it that it adds up to the dollars that make a few hundred by the end of the year but no one on ESO told you to gear up for the 2016 LoL/Starcraft qualifier tournament. And stop right where you're at with the CAPEX or OPEX cost. This isn't a business in which you're budgeting revenue against operation cost. This is a hobby you're doing for fun. Nuff said.
Asking ZoS to revert to the lowest common denominator because of a rig that you set up knowing that it would be demanding on power usage is nonsense. Straight nonsense. Get outta here with that skulking skeever snip.
*drops the mic*Two words..... Solar Panels......From the looks of your rig....you can afford to get them.....
Also, what this guy said. If you're so concerned over power, how about you be sustainable and minimize your carbon footprint while you're at it, huh? This suggestion would solve all your problems you know.
I suggest building your own panels. They're easy to do and its much cheaper than contracting a company to come in and build them for you. If you live in Florida you'll hit legal road blocks because [reasons]. Other than that you should be good to put them up and there's plenty of online guilds on how to do it.12 -
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✭NeoXanthus wrote: »As for the computer cost 6k it was more than that. But everything system wise was my own decision. The change from DX9 to DX11 was something forced I see no benefit from it and it simply cost more to use for very little to any gain.NeoXanthus wrote: »Yeah, yeah, I know this system was very expensive 2+ years ago but that is CAPEX not OPEX cost. You should have a choice to change it back to DX9.
This disclaimer, herr OP, does not cut it and you're getting a proper scolding over this. You cannot build yourself a rig of that intense cost, a rig that you designed to take a lot of power to run due directly to said standards and intense cost you chose, and then complain about the tiny cents on the dollars difference in power usage. I get it that it adds up to the dollars that make a few hundred by the end of the year but no one on ESO told you to gear up for the 2016 LoL/Starcraft qualifier tournament. And stop right where you're at with the CAPEX or OPEX cost. This isn't a business in which you're budgeting revenue against operation cost. This is a hobby you're doing for fun. Nuff said.
Asking ZoS to revert to the lowest common denominator because of a rig that you set up knowing that it would be demanding on power usage is nonsense. Straight nonsense. Get outta here with that skulking skeever snip.
*drops the mic*Two words..... Solar Panels......From the looks of your rig....you can afford to get them.....
Also, what this guy said. If you're so concerned over power, how about you be sustainable and minimize your carbon footprint while you're at it, huh? This suggestion would solve all your problems you know.
I suggest building your own panels. They're easy to do and its much cheaper than contracting a company to come in and build them for you. If you live in Florida you'll hit legal road blocks because [reasons]. Other than that you should be good to put them up and there's plenty of online guilds on how to do it.
I couldn't hear what you said after you dropped the mic.5 -
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✭✭*wanders in on my Khajiit and curls up under the desk to soak up all the heat*Lag is ruinin' my 'mershun!
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khele23eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If envy could be used as food this thread would feed a small third world country.P2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.5 -
coolmodi✭✭✭
I run a dual digit cm d*ck liquid activated attached to a bi-legged adonis body with a combined length of 205cm (d*ck on head).NeoXanthus wrote: »I run Quad-SLI liquid cooled factory overclocked GTX Titans attached to three GSYNC displays with a combined resolution of 7680x1440.
My card is still chilling in dx11, it rather has less load thanks to a earlier CPU limt. Maybe something with the driver and/or SLI is wrong?NeoXanthus wrote: »When the game was in DX9 mode the cards ran at about 50% usage each and the FPS was between 90 and 100fps (capped at 100 with FRAPS.) [...] Now is DX11 mode FPS are around 35 to 50 although with GSYNC all still looks great, but the video cards are at 99% usage...
Edit: And the game ran in dx11 before if you didn't manually disable it.Edited by coolmodi on March 17, 2016 8:46AM2 -
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✭✭Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »I can't tell if the OP is bragging or complaining...
Braplaining
Comblagging.2 -
Wild_squirtle✭✭✭NeoXanthus wrote: »I run Quad-SLI liquid cooled factory overclocked GTX Titans attached to three GSYNC displays with a combined resolution of 7680x1440. When the game was in DX9 mode the cards ran at about 50% usage each and the FPS was between 90 and 100fps (capped at 100 with FRAPS.) My power supplies for the system are dual 1500 watt and a single 750 watt. They all connect into a L6-30 twist lock PDU that supplies only 220v power. The wattage is measured at the wall when the game was in DX9 mode it was around 1220 watts with about 100 watt in variances. Now is DX11 mode FPS are around 35 to 50 although with GSYNC all still looks great, but the video cards are at 99% usage and my wattage measured at the wall is 1870 watts with about 150watt in variances. That is about a 650 watt increase.
When the computer was in DX9 mode:
Winter cost is about $0.13 an hour
Summer cost is about $0.16 an hour
Computer in DX11 mode:
Winter cost is about $0.21 an hour
Summer cost will be about $0.32 an hour
Not to mention the air-condition works harder when the computer is putting off more heat, and with the ridiculous grinds in this game this is going to get expensive. Yeah, yeah, I know this system was very expensive 2+ years ago but that is CAPEX not OPEX cost. You should have a choice to change it back to DX9.
Idk how you manage that. I run two sli gtx 460 2 gb ddr5, with 16 gb of ddr3 ram a HDD with a phenom II x4 965 that bottle necks my gpu out put. I run this game on max settings -grass and i put up 70+ fps.
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Pallmor✭✭✭✭✭
✭You're running two GTX Titans attached to three GSYNC displays and you're worried about power usage?!?
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Duiwel✭✭✭✭✭
✭First world problems?
EDIT:Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »I can't tell if the OP is bragging or complaining...
Braplaining
Edited by Duiwel on March 17, 2016 1:34PM@Duiwel:Join ORDER OF SITHIS We're recruiting! PC EU"Dear Brother. I do not spread rumours. I create them..."6 -
Robbmrp✭✭✭✭✭
✭NeoXanthus wrote: »
As for the computer cost 6k it was more than that. But everything system wise was my own decision. The change from DX9 to DX11 was something forced I see no benefit from it and it simply cost more to use for very little to any gain.
You must have missed the $6k+ listed above. That was just a quick guess based on the 4x Titans.
I wonder what Peter Griffin would say about this post on his old Tv Show "What Grinds My Gears"..... I could think of a few things.....
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DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I fully support the choice to spend $4k for high fidelity blurs in one's peripheral vision, but complaints about cost of ownership are hard to take seriously.Edited by DaveMoeDee on March 17, 2016 8:09PM4 -
starlizard70ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This one can't even dream of running Titan graphic cards... *sigh* Must somehow find a way to limp along with an 5 year old Alienware Aurora R2 with a mere 21" screen. Only wishes for 1st world problems like the OP has.
Edited by starlizard70ub17_ESO on March 17, 2016 1:40PM"We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."2 -
Mason22✭✭✭I think Peter would just talk to Mort directly.Edited by Mason22 on March 17, 2016 1:44PM1 -
Selstad✭✭✭✭DX11 has operations and supports that DX9 doesn't have, so the game naturally uses more "juice" to run things. Shouldn't come as too much of a surprise to be honest
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NeoXanthus✭✭✭✭It is not just power usage it is also premature wear and tear. Playing this game after the DX11 upgrade is now like folding@home, bitcoining, and or GPU password cracking. Four of the GPUs are now running at 99% when only in gaming operation. Aside from the power and cooling increase plus the cost to run them in this DX11 mode, I suspect the cards are not rated to run that way for extended periods of time.0
