thieves trove- are they still in game?

Katahdin · March 2016

It needed to be fixed somehow, but it might be overdone. I've found one since they nerfed it.

BergisMacBride wrote: »

Truth be told, I am actually a little more upset about them keeping Voidstone\Void Cloth\Nightwood items in the highest level crafting writs, while removing these materials from Wrothgar\Cyrodiil\Hew's Bane.

The change to mats in Orcinium needed to happen. You can get voidstone, void cloth and nightwood in copious amounts in the later Cads gold zones. Grinding v16 mats was rediculous before the change. Now you don't need to spend weeks farming for one set and you actually can get rubido leather now. It was impossible to farm enough before.

BergisMacBride · March 2016

Katahdin wrote: »

The change to mats in Orcinium needed to happen. You can get voidstone, void cloth and nightwood in copious amounts in the later Cads gold zones. Grinding v16 mats was rediculous before the change. Now you don't need to spend weeks farming for one set and you actually can get rubido leather now. It was impossible to farm enough before.

Oh I'm ok with the change to V16 mats and it's nice they are much more plentiful. It's just that with writs still requiring more Void level materials than V16 ones, their supply has noticeably dropped on vendors and the price of V9-14 mats has already started to increase as they become more scarce. As expected, V16 level mats have seen their prices drop dramatically. I would suggest reversing the writ requirements to need two V16 items and one Void level item - that way both will still be needed but there more of a balance between supply and demand, IMO.

eaton68_ESO · March 2016

I have to agree they over-corrected a bit. Something else I noticed is the disturbing lack of lock boxes in Stonefalls for the daily Thieves Guild quest. Anyone else notice this, or has it always been this bad. I searched every nook and cranny, all three areas, for 1 1/2 hrs and found none.

DHale · March 2016

Have not seen one since the nerf hammer, as usual over nerfing rather than small incremental changes. But this ones on the players qq ing which is aka whining. You know that every nerf has unintended consequences in this game. But alas you might be to over powered with you Legerman at 20.

eagles9595b16_ESO · March 2016

They nerfed it so badly that indeed yo can think they removed all troves from the game

The only chance to find any is to search them when everybody else is sleeping... you won't find much but the few that may still be around should be yours... you better prepare tonsof coffee and vitamine C.

RedRoomGaming · March 2016

DHale wrote: »

Have not seen one since the nerf hammer, as usual over nerfing rather than small incremental changes. But this ones on the players qq ing which is aka whining. You know that every nerf has unintended consequences in this game. But alas you might be to over powered with you Legerman at 20.

Do you need points into legermain for this dlc?

starkerealm · March 2016

RedRoomGaming wrote: »

DHale wrote: »

Have not seen one since the nerf hammer, as usual over nerfing rather than small incremental changes. But this ones on the players qq ing which is aka whining. You know that every nerf has unintended consequences in this game. But alas you might be to over powered with you Legerman at 20.

Do you need points into legermain for this dlc?

No, but points in legerdemain helps enormously with your thieving.

Grunim · March 2016

I've found them yesterday and today, but I was exploring with a non-vet character in one of my alliance zones and not in the DLC zones.

Hope499 · March 2016

Surprise, the crybabies complained that there were too many (honestly...weirdest thing to complain about....)

Now, no one gets any.

AmberLaTerra · March 2016

I have found a couple while questing, the nerf is way overboard. I tried doing a search last night spending an hour on bleakrock island running through the 6 spawn areas I know of and used before the nerf to break up the monotony of fishing to collect perfect roe. When I was fishing I would average around 60 troves an hour as I would focus on finishing my fishing spots and not run right to them. In my test last night I did not find one in the hour of running a circle around those 6 spawn points.

It seems it has come down to dumb luck of finding them when questing and in my eyes that makes them useless as they no longer as a nice way to break up the boredom of doing things like fishing for roe, or gathering resources.

Palidon · March 2016

Yep I have not found one since the patch nerf. I even went back to spots were I had found them before and they were not there. I want to say tanks to all those players who complained. Your whining ruined it for everyone.

GlassHalfFull · March 2016

My level 9 mule toon went to a starter zone to use one of those silly starter zone treasure maps my V16 main toon gets in Hew Banes troves, and found two troves out in the open, very easy to spot.

What I found interesting, was both had treasure maps for Cyrodiil, which this toon can not get to yet.

SirAndy · March 2016

GlassHalfFull wrote: »

What I found interesting, was both had treasure maps for Cyrodiil, which this toon can not get to yet.

RNG don't care about your toon ...

DHale · March 2016

RedRoomGaming wrote: »

DHale wrote: »

Have not seen one since the nerf hammer, as usual over nerfing rather than small incremental changes. But this ones on the players qq ing which is aka whining. You know that every nerf has unintended consequences in this game. But alas you might be to over powered with you Legerman at 20.

Do you need points into legermain for this dlc?

No you do not need them but tbh makes it much funner and faster (and easier) what I did is put them in there until Legerman was 20 then respecced them out. I made about 160 k in a week pretty easily rotating three vr 16 toons. Got all to 20 Legerman aside from the thieves guild stuff.

Teridaxus · March 2016

I found another one! Just took 3 days.

phairdon · March 2016

Picked up two more today as well as a couple yesterday. Not that I specifically hunt for troves, just stumble across them while doing quests.

dsalter · March 2016

babylon wrote: »

SirAndy wrote: »

I found one (1) during several hours of play last night.

Typical ZOS, they always panic and make HUGE changes to something that only needed a little tweaking.

The only numbers they code with in this game are 1 and 0.

pretty sure they have a scale of Templar to 10, templar being -100

dem0n1k · March 2016

I gotta admit I was flabbergasted when I saw the post about troves spawning too quickly... really!? In this game? You want less loot?

I started hoarding the set pieces I found but later ditched all except the Night Mother Embrace pieces because IMO most of the new dropped sets are no better than sets that can already be crafted. Night Mother's Embrace is only interesting because I found rings & a necklace... making it possible to wear 2 x 5pc sets. I will save these for my NB when she hits VR16.

I have seen only 2 troves since the last patch (Monday 14-3-16) & one only had lockpicks in it. But TBH it's not a huge deal for me ... the only thing I really wanted that was dropping in the troves was the Cyrodill treasure maps. & the only reason I wanted the Cyro maps was to get Pact Motif drops.

Al I want is to be able to craft in the style of MY faction... I fought for the Pact , I've died multiple times for the Pact. I bought my own siege weapons & wall repairs, spending tens of thousands of gold & AP. ..... but the Pact won't even teach me how to craft in it's style? I have to go & find the chapters in random treasure chests?!?@#! hahah

Just a 'tongue in cheek' rant but I'm sure some of you know how I feel

kevlarto_ESO · March 2016

I have not seen one since the patch, guess they went from to many spawns to no spawns lol,

Twilix01 · March 2016

I saw one today, but I wasn't really looking for it. It was over in Abah's Landing.

Lysette · March 2016

Just let it settle a bit - currently pretty much all, who have DLC access, are looking for those troves. But after a while the hype will cool down and then it will feel ok - it is just the current focus on thievery, which is causing this bottleneck.

Edit. I play - if I have the time at all - mainly in the lower populated hours and there are enough of those to find - enough as in "I can get some interesting items and a bit loot to sell" - not as in "I can hoard like a dragon".

RebornV3x · March 2016

Was really looking forward to this when it came to console but once again the forum complainers ruined it why would you even complain about getting to much of something Damn that BDO on PC looking better every day also gotta find that nerf thread so I can send out my hate mail.

Lysette · March 2016

There are a couple of reasons, why it felt wrong and could not be as intended, because it would have been horrible design. If you cannot see, that something is wrong, when it attracts bots and campers with their bad effects on game, game economy and community, then I will most likely not be able to explain it to you. Anyway, it was a bug, it is fixed now and can no longer be exploited.

daemonios · March 2016

Stop QQing. They're in the game. I've found 3 this morning alone in Hew's Bane doing my rounds.

Mojmir · March 2016

Just a heads up,they do spawn in the same spots as before,timer is just different.

babylon · March 2016

Mojmir wrote: »

Just a heads up,they do spawn in the same spots as before,timer is just different.

As in, over one hour at least. I tested.

Lysette · March 2016

babylon wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Just a heads up,they do spawn in the same spots as before,timer is just different.

As in, over one hour at least. I tested.

It is not said that it is a fixed timer - if they have realized it via a fixed amount of troves per zone, which can maximal show at any given time, then it could be quicker at prime time and much longer when not that many are in a zone. In this case you would really have to go around to find those active and not just wait for one to respawn - it might not do that, before another one in the zone was looted before.

babylon · March 2016

Lysette wrote: »

babylon wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Just a heads up,they do spawn in the same spots as before,timer is just different.

As in, over one hour at least. I tested.

It is not said that it is a fixed timer - if they have realized it via a fixed amount of troves per zone, which can maximal show at any given time, then it could be quicker at prime time and much longer when not that many are in a zone. In this case you would really have to go around to find those active and not just wait for one to respawn - it might not do that, before another one in the zone was looted before.

Yeah, but it's a terrible system that relies on other people being around to trigger the respawns. With them being so rare it's unlikely that others will ever be there to open the one box that then allows a respawn of the other box you happen to be passing by. It's basically useless now, might as well remove them from the game entirely and we'll just loot treasure chests instead - you know, things that actually work and don't try to punish you for playing by giving you "the silent treatment".

Treasure Troves are basically your passive-aggressive anti-gamer spouse.

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Lysette · March 2016

babylon wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

babylon wrote: »

Mojmir wrote: »

Just a heads up,they do spawn in the same spots as before,timer is just different.

As in, over one hour at least. I tested.

It is not said that it is a fixed timer - if they have realized it via a fixed amount of troves per zone, which can maximal show at any given time, then it could be quicker at prime time and much longer when not that many are in a zone. In this case you would really have to go around to find those active and not just wait for one to respawn - it might not do that, before another one in the zone was looted before.

Yeah, but it's a terrible system that relies on other people being around to trigger the respawns. With them being so rare it's unlikely that others will ever be there to open the one box that then allows a respawn of the other box you happen to be passing by. It's basically useless now, might as well remove them from the game entirely and we'll just loot treasure chests instead.

Depends, I am somewhat used to it - signatures and anomalies in EVE online spawn in such a way - it can happen that by this over time some of them cluster in remote locations - that is why I would check remote locations at prime time (if I would go for troves there at all) - chance is higher then, that there are several nearby and active - because people will open those near crowded areas that quickly, that those lasting longer will start to cluster in remote locations, where not many people get to.

NinjaApacHe · March 2016

Blame the f*******g cryers.