An honest question

Saucy_Jack · March 2016

So after reading the forums about how this gear loadout is the best and this spell combo is the best and these tactics are the best in such and such situations and how everyone is running them (looking at you, proxy det % vicious death), and how it sucks that THESE sets are v16 but THOSE sets are only v14, and how THIS skill is magicka based but THAT skill is stam based, etc. etc. etc., I have to ask:

So what is everyone expecting? How do they honestly expect ZOS to fix these?

The reason I ask is this: the fact that certain sets/skills are being used all the time by everyone right now is because some minmaxers ran the numbers and came up with the conclusion that this particular combo of gear and skills will be the best for this or that situation. So let's say ZOS scales every single set to v16, and somehow makes it so that every single skill has a magicka morph and stam morph that are comparable. Do people somehow think that the minmaxers won't do exactly what they always do, test test test, and come up with the pinnacle of gear/skill combos that everyone will subsequently use?

I mean, unless all gear has the same stats, and all skills have the same stats, there will always be a particular one or two sets that are best in slot, and however many skills that are best in slot for that class.

So again I ask, what - in concrete terms, please - are people expecting ZOS to do?

Pre-emptive note: "make it better", "give us more variety", "fix bugs", etc. are all delightfully non-concrete answers. Be specific.

SUGGESTIONS SO FAR:
- hahahahahahahahaha use logic? You silly man.
- reintroduce soft caps which would in turn reward hybrid builds more than one-stat ponies

Spearshard · March 2016

You sir are expecting entirely too much by asking people to use logic and well reasoned arguments.

tinythinker · March 2016

Saucy_Jack wrote: »

So after reading the forums about how this gear loadout is the best and this spell combo is the best and these tactics are the best in such and such situations and how everyone is running them (looking at you, proxy det % vicious death), and how it sucks that THESE sets are v16 but THOSE sets are only v14, and how THIS skill is magicka based but THAT skill is stam based, etc. etc. etc., I have to ask:

So what is everyone expecting? How do they honestly expect ZOS to fix these?

The reason I ask is this: the fact that certain sets/skills are being used all the time by everyone right now is because some minmaxers ran the numbers and came up with the conclusion that this particular combo of gear and skills will be the best for this or that situation. So let's say ZOS scales every single set to v16, and somehow makes it so that every single skill has a magicka morph and stam morph that are comparable. Do people somehow think that the minmaxers won't do exactly what they always do, test test test, and come up with the pinnacle of gear/skill combos that everyone will subsequently use?

I mean, unless all gear has the same stats, and all skills have the same stats, there will always be a particular one or two sets that are best in slot, and however many skills that are best in slot for that class.

So again I ask, what - in concrete terms, please - are people expecting ZOS to do?

Pre-emptive note: "make it better", "give us more variety", "fix bugs", etc. are all delightfully non-concrete answers. Be specific.

Reintroduce diminishing returns and introduce balancing/limiting mechanics in the champion system so that stacking everything into either magicka or stamina makes you a highly fragile glass cannon. There will still be minmaxers but the "best" sets won't be so far above everything else that nothing else is considered worthwhile or competitive. People have posted specific mechanics elsewhere in terms of percentages, etc, but this is something many people miss from pre-1.6.