Simple question. Is overload OP?

Lucky28 · March 2016

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it's dangerous but not really op. there are many counters to it. but it's great for burning some people fast, and sadly i can't really take out BoL spammers without it.

EsoRecon · March 2016

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Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

All the scummy Stamblades who deserve an Overload in the face just roll dodge it, unfortunately.

pfff keep shield stacking nub

Flameheart · March 2016

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Balanced for PvE, maybe OP in PvP, but I don't care for PvP.

If you think OL is op in PvE than you never played a magicka DK in a longer fight after patch.

Asmael · March 2016

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For PvE, the extra skillbar doesn't make that much of a difference, but the projectiles are insane for burn strats, but because it's ultimate, it's still situational, and usually means you can't use your ultimate to help clear trash packs.

For PvP, the extra skillbar is a very nice utility, but the projectiles are mostly good against newbs(at which point, just about anything is good).

Overall, rather balanced.

remilafo · March 2016

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It's only good because it's the only ultimate that allows you to stack up to 1000 ultimate and then go on a burning spree..

IMO, the cost of any ultimate should be as advertised..

if a player has 1000 ultimate and their ultimate costs 200 then their ultimate should drop to 800 NOT zero...

this would remove all the love/hate from Overload and maybe people would be talking about other ultimate instead.

Septimus_Magna · March 2016

remilafo wrote: »

It's only good because it's the only ultimate that allows you to stack up to 1000 ultimate and then go on a burning spree..

IMO, the cost of any ultimate should be as advertised..

if a player has 1000 ultimate and their ultimate costs 200 then their ultimate should drop to 800 NOT zero...

this would remove all the love/hate from Overload and maybe people would be talking about other ultimate instead.

So you think it would be a good idea to let people drop 5 meteors (possibly more with lag) on a single target?

Kris_wbg · March 2016

In PVE it's great
In PVP not so much

remilafo · March 2016

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Septimus_Magna wrote: »

remilafo wrote: »

It's only good because it's the only ultimate that allows you to stack up to 1000 ultimate and then go on a burning spree..

IMO, the cost of any ultimate should be as advertised..

if a player has 1000 ultimate and their ultimate costs 200 then their ultimate should drop to 800 NOT zero...

this would remove all the love/hate from Overload and maybe people would be talking about other ultimate instead.

So you think it would be a good idea to let people drop 5 meteors (possibly more with lag) on a single target?

Yes i do.. 1000 ultimate takes awhile to build up and if you want to seriously overkill a player with it. as labeouf would say .. DO IT!

and if your counter argument is that it is WAY TOO OP then i counter that with it takes FAR LESS than 5 ultimates to wreck a single person, my example is take a looks at @Sypher latest magicka NB video on youtube where he is lotus fanning in dropping an ult and then prox det goes off. he is wrecking multiple people at a time with that.

One shotting people is pvp is NOT a valid counter since it already happens without multi-ultimates..

Let the ultimate cost be the ultimate cost, that is all. Just make it fair and put all ultimate on the same cost behavior as Overload.

RinaldoGandolphi · March 2016

Overload is very situational.

When it works it works good, when it don't its garbage. Now that reflects have changed and every attack can only be reflected once, its far less effective then it used to be.

i only use it in specific situations and use Meteor, Dawnbreaker, and Atronach.

ButtersEP · March 2016

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Great vs bosses, except when it gets glitched and locks up, poor vs big trash pools.

EsoRecon · March 2016

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WHERES MY OVERLOAD OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wreuntzylla · March 2016

Please leave overload alone. Nothing makes me laugh as much as when I reflect a couple using defensive stance and the sorc falls over dead.

sluice · March 2016

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It really depends on the scenario.
I would vote OP, but It's too easy to dodge to be officially OP. (Just like Wrecking Blow, in my opinion)
But it hits really hard (when it does).

I like to use it when playing in a group (so you don't have all the attention on you), Usually, 2-3 hits kills most persons.

Humatiel · March 2016

EsoRecon wrote: »

Humatiel wrote: »

While I believe overload is OP let's be honest, without it Sorc would cease to exist.

NOT true they would still be able to shield stack in pvp and be the best tanks in game.

fair, I do virtually no PvP so I didn't consider that.

sluice · March 2016

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Humatiel wrote: »

While I believe overload is OP let's be honest, without it Sorc would cease to exist.

Lol, you know that most good end game sorc mainly use it on their second bar to have access to a third bar?
You can burst higher numbers with Detonation + Curse + Frag, for instance.

Overload is useless in 1v1 agains't a somewhat decent player. It's just as easy (if not easier) to dodge than Wrecking Blow.

Strider_Roshin · March 2016

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Oh good, a census of the sorcerer population on the forums.

Lord_Wrath · March 2016

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It CAN be. Against bad builds it mows them down but a lot of players seem to take no damage at all amidst the middle of your zerg and its handy!

Edziu · April 2016

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please, tell me this isnt *** op
11% crit resist from cp, 17.5% elemantal and magic damg resist from cp and 5x gold impenetrable
just attacked from back when I tried to attack someone other, no any *** chance to avoid this in like this situation or in zerg situations also, you dont se if it flying to you or no

EDIT: its is almost like if death stroke from nb will be also spammable ulti, dont burning all ulti on 1 hit
or templar sweep etc

Solariken · April 2016

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In small groups, Overload is no big deal as it can be blocked, dodged, reflected. But when you are outnumbered or being focused by multiple people and an enemy sorc is slinging those things at you, it's probably game over.

Stannum · April 2016

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Really if you have good res managment its useless

Reevster · April 2016

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I dont think its OPed but its close, that and Templar dark flare lol, As a Mag Nb I usually dont have enough stam to dodge them ... but its all good.

Reevster · April 2016

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Edziu wrote: »

please, tell me this isnt *** op
11% crit resist from cp, 17.5% elemantal and magic damg resist from cp and 5x gold impenetrable
just attacked from back when I tried to attack someone other, no any *** chance to avoid this in like this situation or in zerg situations also, you dont se if it flying to you or no

EDIT: its is almost like if death stroke from nb will be also spammable ulti, dont burning all ulti on 1 hit
or templar sweep etc

Wow i never see those numbers when i die to Over load maybe 8k ish tops. But then again I play no CPs enabled campaign.

NBrookus · April 2016

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Edziu wrote: »

please, tell me this isnt *** op
11% crit resist from cp, 17.5% elemantal and magic damg resist from cp and 5x gold impenetrable
just attacked from back when I tried to attack someone other, no any *** chance to avoid this in like this situation or in zerg situations also, you dont se if it flying to you or no

EDIT: its is almost like if death stroke from nb will be also spammable ulti, dont burning all ulti on 1 hit
or templar sweep etc

I see prox det, focused aim, radiant destruction and WB all hit with those kinds of numbers. And they aren't ultimates.

Edziu · April 2016

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NBrookus wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

please, tell me this isnt *** op
11% crit resist from cp, 17.5% elemantal and magic damg resist from cp and 5x gold impenetrable
just attacked from back when I tried to attack someone other, no any *** chance to avoid this in like this situation or in zerg situations also, you dont se if it flying to you or no

EDIT: its is almost like if death stroke from nb will be also spammable ulti, dont burning all ulti on 1 hit
or templar sweep etc

I see prox det, focused aim, radiant destruction and WB all hit with those kinds of numbers. And they aren't ultimates.

on single target..I see normally around 10k deto, focused from good players 10-13k (6-7k crits from noobs xD) radiant I dont write, dont saw to much

, and WB like focuesd. so as all writing on forum..all those skills are easy to avoid xD so overload also but not as wb its on range, cant be purged etc like radiant, insta cast in compare to snipe and need spam dodge to avoid it, block dont help to much with this, just hittind the hardest in compare to those skills and is spammable when death stroke nb...hitting less and no spammable, only debuffs are good to use this ulti, templar ulti sweep, also not high damage...just some "protection" from incoming attacks but when 1vs1 ist it to much :P but nvm

with good time, good moment to spam overload its purely damaging skill and it will insta kill you in good moment like crap new meta nb with soul tether and magica deto

btw...also just combine nonspammable ulti with skill when overload need just 2 hits or max to 3 and and :d

threefarms · April 2016

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crislevin wrote: »

is jesus beam op? not even an ult.

Don't you talk about my jesus beam like that.

OrphanHelgen · April 2016

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no

Resipsa131 · April 2016

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Ahzek wrote: »

PvP point of view. Its only really useful for the skill bar and butchering scrubs.

Its good for battling and executing wing spamming DKs - just heavy attack and melt them.

I voted other as in PvP its okay and has uses but its very powerful in PvE. I wouldn't change much but I'd probably reduce the amount you can bank if anything.

Oreyn_Bearclaw · April 2016

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PVP: Not OP, but certainly powerful. I think it is more useful for the third bar than anything. You can definitely get some quick kills with it, especially if you catch a player with a stun or knockdown, but any decent player knows how to counter it. It also has a very low hit rate in PvP. I feel like maybe 1/3 actually land.

PVE: Same Answer. When it's up, you do great single target DPS. But most really good sorcs dont even run overload in the new trial. The fights are too long, so they have gone to a more sustainable rotation with meteor. In PVE, I feel like it is more of a gimmick. One or two fights a dungeon you can post really good numbers. The place that it is most useful by a long shot is VMA. It really does simplify just about every boss fight in there. The ultimate pool is big enough that you should be full for every boss fight if you are careful.

As for sorcs already being the best tanks, eh... Maybe in PvP where a tank is just about taking damage this might be true. In PVE, DKs are the best tanks because CHAINS!.

Resipsa131 · April 2016

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in case OP didn't know, ZOS runs statistics, what is OP, what is not, they have data to show it. Guess why BOL and FH got nerfed while overload didn't?

BOL and FH got nerf because ZOS wants healers to use resto staff abilities

Wreuntzylla · April 2016

Put 60+ points into resistant and have impen on ALL your pieces, damage will go down alot.