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Magicka Templars will be the most OP build in the game

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  • BlackEar
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    If you are stamplar just respec now. It is not feasible to wait for any improvements. Might as well ride the tide while the wind blows in our favour.
    AfkNinja wrote: »
    Yea but magicka templars are like the definition of glass cannons with that approach. They will be easier to CC and burst if they stack everything into magicka and SP for dps. They have no pro-active defensive measures to prevent being instagibbed too.

    Still though, this is pretty much exactly what I feared from this update. None of us wanted more dps we wanted more defensive utility for Magic and Stamina Templar and instead they gave us a damage boost which I fear will be nerfed shortly. :/

    Excuse me. I wanted more DPS for Stamplars. And better ressource management.
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  • Mumyo
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    BlackEar wrote: »
    If you are stamplar just respec now. It is not feasible to wait for any improvements. Might as well ride the tide while the wind blows in our favour.
    AfkNinja wrote: »
    Yea but magicka templars are like the definition of glass cannons with that approach. They will be easier to CC and burst if they stack everything into magicka and SP for dps. They have no pro-active defensive measures to prevent being instagibbed too.

    Still though, this is pretty much exactly what I feared from this update. None of us wanted more dps we wanted more defensive utility for Magic and Stamina Templar and instead they gave us a damage boost which I fear will be nerfed shortly. :/

    Excuse me. I wanted more DPS for Stamplars. And better ressource management.

    Stamplars have more dps in terms of thaumaturge, stack taht with mighty and ur jabs really hit harder!

    About the Magplar buffs, yea they maybe gonna nerf us again because everybody is crying about templar being op since magplar is competitive now. It's the first time magplars can be dangerous in pvp.
  • ContraTempo
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    KingYogi415 wrote: »
    Lets just cut to the chase and delete Templar's completely.

    Right, because in PVP everyone should only play NB. Then no one has to worry about other classes being OP.
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  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    Still waiting for someone to show me a v16 Cyrodiil's light piece and that it really does as described. Other than that, this is a "Templars OP because I theorycrafted some hypothetical build in my head" type of thread. Post a youtube gameplay video of you successfully defending your house and then we will see.
    Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on March 13, 2016 6:04PM
  • Dredlord
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    danno8 wrote: »
    Baconlad wrote: »
    Oh and is cyrodils light still all that and a bag of chips? Being v14, maybe if you only wore the armor with will power rings, but does it even come in impen? If not then I wouldn't do it

    IIRC it comes as 2 rings, necklace, robe and breeches. That's it.

    You are not IIRC'ing very well...
  • Own
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    SemiD4rkness wrote: »
    If it was true (which it isn't) let them be OP for at least a year just like stamblades and magicka sorcerers have been. Im gonna turn my templar to magicka and im gonna come and tell you all how balanced this game is and you just think templars are stronger cause we are better than you and you should all L2P. You'll see how it feels.

    90% of magicka sorcs suck. You speak of skilled players..
  • Lettigall
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    JamieAubrey wrote: »
    To bad I'm a Stamplar

    I have stamplar, but after Wrobel on ESO live I leved stamblade(currently vr7). Yesterday took my templar from shelve to PvP and compared to my NB it's a complete ***.

    If you are stamplar respec to magplar or reroll, only stay with it if you like to play as underdog.

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  • danno8
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    Dredlord wrote: »
    danno8 wrote: »
    Baconlad wrote: »
    Oh and is cyrodils light still all that and a bag of chips? Being v14, maybe if you only wore the armor with will power rings, but does it even come in impen? If not then I wouldn't do it

    IIRC it comes as 2 rings, necklace, robe and breeches. That's it.

    You are not IIRC'ing very well...

    I was close. :D

    Substitute choker for Hat. And they only come in reinforced, which is terrible for light armour in particular.
  • Refuse2GrowUp
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    danno8 wrote: »
    Dredlord wrote: »
    danno8 wrote: »
    Baconlad wrote: »
    Oh and is cyrodils light still all that and a bag of chips? Being v14, maybe if you only wore the armor with will power rings, but does it even come in impen? If not then I wouldn't do it

    IIRC it comes as 2 rings, necklace, robe and breeches. That's it.

    You are not IIRC'ing very well...

    I was close. :D

    Substitute choker for Hat. And they only come in reinforced, which is terrible for light armour in particular.

    But the OP said it was OP...and if the OP said it was OP, then you can bet it is truly OP :p
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  • SeptimusDova
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    Band of Cyrodiils light
    Ring of Cyrodiils Light
    Gloves of Cyrodiils Light
    Hat of Cyrodiils Light
    Epaulets of Cyrodiils Light
    Breeches of Cyrodiils Light
    Robe of Cyrodiils Light

    It is a 7 Piece set I haven't seen any VR16 at the vendors
  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    Enraged_Tiki_Torch wrote: »
    Templars are not OP. Try using RD or jab spam against a competent player and you will see why.

    Actually when I do encounter a player that does roll out of the way of my Jab/RD, this is exactly what I want. They spend resources, then continue playing defense to avoid Jabs/Dark Flare/Toppling and I have the momentum to keep pressuring him til he dies to my RD when hes 25% health.

    OP words about Templar buffs have a certain ring of truth to them. I've already re-adjusted my skill set and picked up Honor the Dead/Restoring Focus/Crescent. Might as well dabble before TG comes out.
    Edited by Takes-No-Prisoner on March 14, 2016 1:44PM
  • Idinuse
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    Takes-No-Prisoner wrote: »
    Enraged_Tiki_Torch wrote: »
    Templars are not OP. Try using RD or jab spam against a competent player and you will see why.

    Actually when I do encounter a player that does roll out of the way of my Jab/RD, this is exactly what I want. They spend resources, then continue playing defense to avoid Jabs/Dark Flare/Toppling and I have the momentum to keep pressuring him til he dies to my RD when hes 25% health.

    OP words about Templar buffs have a certain ring of truth to them. I've already re-adjusted my skill set and picked up the alternate morphs to BoL/Channeled Focus/Crescent. Might as well dabble before TG comes out.

    Wow. So how long does this tactics take before he is in execute range? As opposed to CC, WB, WB, Execute - <2 seconds? Or the Snipe and Poison Injection combos from 40 meters - <2 seconds, dead before I unsheathe my weapon?

    Yeah, so OP indeed.
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  • AfkNinja
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    BlackEar wrote: »
    If you are stamplar just respec now. It is not feasible to wait for any improvements. Might as well ride the tide while the wind blows in our favour.
    AfkNinja wrote: »
    Yea but magicka templars are like the definition of glass cannons with that approach. They will be easier to CC and burst if they stack everything into magicka and SP for dps. They have no pro-active defensive measures to prevent being instagibbed too.

    Still though, this is pretty much exactly what I feared from this update. None of us wanted more dps we wanted more defensive utility for Magic and Stamina Templar and instead they gave us a damage boost which I fear will be nerfed shortly. :/

    Excuse me. I wanted more DPS for Stamplars. And better ressource management.

    I also main a Stamplar and want more defensive utility (fix blazing shield, bring back blinding flashes) and resource management. Damage can be pretty beastly already. What good is MOAR dmg on your stamplar if you still die immediately?
  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    Idinuse wrote: »
    Wow. So how long does this tactics take before he is in execute range? As opposed to CC, WB, WB, Execute - <2 seconds? Or the Snipe and Poison Injection combos from 40 meters - <2 seconds, dead before I unsheathe my weapon?

    Yeah, so OP indeed.

    Depends on the situation quite honestly. Furthermore, you do not really fully realize my play style from just a mere few sentences a lone. I get that. So go ahead and make your generalizations. Since that is usually how Text TheoryCrafting is.
    Edited by Takes-No-Prisoner on March 14, 2016 3:32PM
  • me_ming
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    Why do I feel like templars will be nerfed next major patch?! I feel it's Radiant Destruction this time or Dark Flare. I really wish stop these nerf threads. :P
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  • BlackEar
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    AfkNinja wrote: »
    BlackEar wrote: »
    If you are stamplar just respec now. It is not feasible to wait for any improvements. Might as well ride the tide while the wind blows in our favour.
    AfkNinja wrote: »
    Yea but magicka templars are like the definition of glass cannons with that approach. They will be easier to CC and burst if they stack everything into magicka and SP for dps. They have no pro-active defensive measures to prevent being instagibbed too.

    Still though, this is pretty much exactly what I feared from this update. None of us wanted more dps we wanted more defensive utility for Magic and Stamina Templar and instead they gave us a damage boost which I fear will be nerfed shortly. :/

    Excuse me. I wanted more DPS for Stamplars. And better ressource management.

    I also main a Stamplar and want more defensive utility (fix blazing shield, bring back blinding flashes) and resource management. Damage can be pretty beastly already. What good is MOAR dmg on your stamplar if you still die immediately?

    We are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay behind magicka templars no matter how you tune it.
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  • Rainingblood
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    Jesus, Templars have been a joke for so long. At least the class has some viability now. Still broken ability synergies and clunky to play, but man... And un-killable? These magicka cannons have minimal stam and there are also abilities that interrupt, stun, debuff healing.... So maybe l2 kill Templars and adapt your spec?
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