ZOS, stop it with the snare/roots!

Derra · March 2016

Halve all snares in potency - give root a CC immunity (different from hard cc though).

Ishammael · March 2016

Derra wrote: »

I love the new stun when being sniped out of stealth. It´s applied instantly but can´t be broken out of until the skill actually hits you.
Anyone else a fan of this?

So this is what is happening? Damn I new something was messed up.

The healing debuff from dark flare still goes through reflect, btw.

AddictionX · March 2016

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

1. Base movement speed has been stealth nerfed.
2. Gap closers still auto snare 60%.
3. Purge cannot remove Talons
4. Every pug is a bow user spamming Bombard, even 1v1!
5. Bombard spam causes the same skill lock out as gap closer spam now.

The random pug using bombard ... heh i have to own up to taking some credit in that... shh

Zheg · March 2016

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

Bombard doesnt even do dmg if you spam purge, not that this skills needs a buff but its strange to say the least.

Cant CC-break instantly half the time, really annoying and often the cause of death.

Immovable is also not always granting CC-immunity, when someone casts a meteor and I cast Immovable I often get ported back and knocked up.

These "fixes" are breaking the game piece by piece..

I would give anything for pre-lighting patch pvp at this point..

Who has the magicka to spam purge in TG? o.O

Tell me your secrets!

Crown · March 2016

Return of the #PurgeMonkey ! I used to have a dedicated person just running a resource (almost no damage potential) build.. Back in the good old days..

Xeven · March 2016

Snares are way to powerful, and way too cheap. They come bundled with things like Stampede and Lotus Fan, which are awesome all by themselves.

When you add up all the snares, roots, CCs, weapon swaps and toggles, on top of a measly 5 second CC immunity timer, it's like they're trying to make the game as ANNOYING AND UNRESPONSIVE as possible.

I don't know whats going at ZOS HQ, but it has become absolutely infuriating. Dark Brotherhood better fix 80% of the BS or I can't see myself playing this game any longer.

Lava_Croft · March 2016

CC is ZOS' way of making this game playable for the Skyrim casuals ESO is designed for.

Tower_Of_Shame · March 2016

Master_Kas wrote: »

One of the most annoying this in this patch. I was a die-hard ESO player but after this patch I'm 99% sure I'm going to quit very soon if they don't fix things.

@Master_Kas
I just got home from work, but after the patch spending some hours in Cyro, I dont feel the need to log in anymore... The game is getting worse and worse every patch, they fix 10 bugs and implement 100 new bugs and bring back 100 old bug.

So i guess just laugh together... I know u love this GiF xD

Draxys · March 2016

They've now added the power of npc snares to pvp. Everything basic npcs do will snare you, this is just balance guys. Isn't that what we're going for here?

Ghost-Shot · March 2016

While pugging about before I got in group last night I got in a 1v3, 2 of them did nothing but bombard me...

PainfulFAFA · March 2016

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

While pugging about before I got in group last night I got in a 1v3, 2 of them did nothing but bombard me...

Your entire guild was spambarding...

Zheg · March 2016

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

While pugging about before I got in group last night I got in a 1v3, 2 of them did nothing but bombard me...

Your entire guild was spambarding...

Our grumpy stamina users that weren't one of the handful picked in the entire guild to stay stam while everyone else was forced into the proxy/meteor/bats magicka meta find your statement interesting. Let's not give them false hope, it's cruel. Though I will pass on the compliment to the few we do have running it, as they're clearly doing an excellent job of it while also being our source of speeds.

Cinnamon_Spider · March 2016

Isn't it obvious? This is how they are fixing PVP. They're making it frustratingly unplayable, so people will leave.

It's amazing how much calmer you are when you haven't attempted ESO PVP in weeks.

Cody · March 2016

oibam wrote: »

I like it now. And to avoid snare -> speed buff. Oh, you want to play magicka bomber build and have low stamina...mhm, ok nerf snares. LOL!

use a speed buff... the only speed buff that would effectively counter snares is rapid maneuver, which is expensive, even for a stamina build, and ends when the player attacks.

Coming from someone who mained a stam build since beta, snares are now OP. I dare not even touch my bow build anymore, as kiting is impossible now. If you like it this way, good for you, but I hate it.

qrichou · March 2016

Master_Kas wrote: »

One of the most annoying this in this patch. I was a die-hard ESO player but after this patch I'm 99% sure I'm going to quit very soon if they don't fix things.

die hard as in streak blink hide run scream ? welcome to the life of a healer where you do a big heal
in the middle of the group an after 6 sec standing still everybody with full health is cloaked running and i stand in front .

Zheg · March 2016

The patch is absolutely brutal to healers. You're perpetually snared/rooted, moreso than every other role. With all of the insane damage, buffed siege, lighting/oil catapults attacking resources, purge costs, barrier nerfs, BoL nerf, - it's a LOT to heal through. I had to significantly change my build from the last patch to do competent healing in this patch, particularly since I'm always at the back of the group and need to be able to survive 5 gap closers being spammed on me xD

I think ww2 thought they had a good balance idea to give the finger to organized groups, but they just made all of pvp a slow and frustrating experience with the root obsession.

HoloYoitsu · March 2016

Zheg wrote: »

I think ww2 thought they had a good balance idea to give the finger to organized groups, but they just made all of pvp a slow and frustrating experience with the root obsession.

That's a great idea! Wrobel should add a root to Prox Det too, I can't believe he didn't think of this!

PainfulFAFA · March 2016

Zheg wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

While pugging about before I got in group last night I got in a 1v3, 2 of them did nothing but bombard me...

Your entire guild was spambarding...

Our grumpy stamina users that weren't one of the handful picked in the entire guild to stay stam while everyone else was forced into the proxy/meteor/bats magicka meta find your statement interesting. Let's not give them false hope, it's cruel. Though I will pass on the compliment to the few we do have running it, as they're clearly doing an excellent job of it while also being our source of speeds.

This snare debacle is something I'm sure is not intended, We can remove soft CCs thru shuffle/purify/purge but the immunity lasts for so little, were snared right away in seconds. Its so annoying more so when you're dealing with ball groups like certain blue ones.

But hey!
Whats a few in 24 spambarding?

Zheg · March 2016

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

I think ww2 thought they had a good balance idea to give the finger to organized groups, but they just made all of pvp a slow and frustrating experience with the root obsession.

That's a great idea! Wrobel should add a root to Prox Det too, I can't believe he didn't think of this!

Next incremental patch: casting channeled focus or purifying ritual will root you in place for the duration of the skill to ensure Templars remain in their houses. Living on the streets is a tough life, this is for your own good. Sun shield will be 1% larger and the damage of dark flare is increased by 15%.

Snares should get the rez treatment so multiple stacks become less effective, and immobilize needs its own immunity timer, though perhaps not as long as cc break (when it actually works) - maybe 2.5 seconds.

Dyride · March 2016

The beatings Bombards will continue until morale improves.

Master_Kas · March 2016

qrichou wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

One of the most annoying this in this patch. I was a die-hard ESO player but after this patch I'm 99% sure I'm going to quit very soon if they don't fix things.

die hard as in streak blink hide run scream ? welcome to the life of a healer where you do a big heal
in the middle of the group an after 6 sec standing still everybody with full health is cloaked running and i stand in front .

Lol what?

Satiar · March 2016

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

While pugging about before I got in group last night I got in a 1v3, 2 of them did nothing but bombard me...

Your entire guild was spambarding...

And spambushing.

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

Ghost-Shot wrote: »

While pugging about before I got in group last night I got in a 1v3, 2 of them did nothing but bombard me...

Your entire guild was spambarding...

Our grumpy stamina users that weren't one of the handful picked in the entire guild to stay stam while everyone else was forced into the proxy/meteor/bats magicka meta find your statement interesting. Let's not give them false hope, it's cruel. Though I will pass on the compliment to the few we do have running it, as they're clearly doing an excellent job of it while also being our source of speeds.

This snare debacle is something I'm sure is not intended, We can remove soft CCs thru shuffle/purify/purge but the immunity lasts for so little, were snared right away in seconds. Its so annoying more so when you're dealing with ball groups like certain blue ones.

But hey!
Whats a few in 24 spambarding?

Everyone told me to stop spamming steel tornado so I went, "Oooook!"

Manoekin · March 2016

Cinnamon_Spider wrote: »

Isn't it obvious? This is how they are fixing PVP. They're making it frustratingly unplayable, so people will leave.

It's amazing how much calmer you are when you haven't attempted ESO PVP in weeks.

We get to sit back and smile