ZOS, stop it with the snare/roots!

HoloYoitsu · March 2016

1. Base movement speed has been stealth nerfed.
2. Gap closers still auto snare 60%.
3. Purge cannot remove Talons
4. Every pug is a bow user spamming Bombard, even 1v1!
5. Bombard spam causes the same skill lock out as gap closer spam now.

Zheg · March 2016

Don't snare yourself in the falsehoods of hope, any fix or change would be slow to hit Live as the devs are immobilized in their own stubborness. It doesn't matter how much logic you bombard them with, they are encased in their own lack of foresight and wrobel has his talons wrapped around all aspects of combat in the game. Might as well shuffle on over to CU in a few weeks.

Can't move? Might as well pun!

Ghost-Shot · March 2016

Zheg wrote: »

Don't snare yourself in the falsehoods of hope, any fix or change would be slow to hit Live as the devs are immobilized in their own stubborness. It doesn't matter how much logic you bombard them with, they are encased in their own lack of foresight and wrobel has his talons wrapped around all aspects of combat in the game.

Can't move? Might as well pun!

One sec must reread to make sure I got all the puns

firewatch · March 2016

Agreed - there are WAY too many snares/roots/stuns in this game. I've used Bombard since day 1 on my bow user. Now that ZOS broke it, I feel guilty using it.

Master_Kas · March 2016

One of the most annoying this in this patch. I was a die-hard ESO player but after this patch I'm 99% sure I'm going to quit very soon if they don't fix things.

pmn100b16_ESO · March 2016

I said this on another thread, pvp now feels like I'm wading through a swamp. Thoroughly frustrating to play.

HoloYoitsu · March 2016

@Zheg I will huff and puff and blow your house down.

PainfulFAFA · March 2016

pmn100b16_ESO wrote: »

I said this on another thread, pvp now feels like I'm wading through a swamp. Thoroughly frustrating to play.

In a nutshell.

I experienced a lot of immobolizes from enemies even during 1v1 situations by talon and spambard.
Only thing i can think of is to run "cleanse" abilities such as shuffle or purges but that apparently doesnt work GG lol.
Lucky for me im playing on a toon that I can smash 1 button and I'm cleaned with heals

Zheg · March 2016

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

@Zheg I will huff and puff and blow your house down.

With that kind of momentum, there would only be the fossilized remains of the foundation left and the very roots of my love for Templars would be ripped away from me. I would have to rapidly maneuver away from wrobel's enlightened vision and sprint down the path of darkness to reroll to a superior class like a sorc. Just thinking about it causes tears to streak down my face.

HoloYoitsu · March 2016

Zheg wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

@Zheg I will huff and puff and blow your house down.

With that kind of momentum, there would only be the fossilized remains of the foundation left and the very roots of my love for Templars would be ripped away from me. I would have to rapidly maneuver away from wrobel's enlightened vision and sprint down the path of darkness to reroll to a superior class like a sorc. Just thinking about it causes tears to streak down my face.

Your bitting puns do not poses the gravity to crush through the thundering power of my presence that surges through my words. Mine fury is endless, and with it I shall call storms to negate the very foundations of your Templar house.

Zheg · March 2016

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

@Zheg I will huff and puff and blow your house down.

With that kind of momentum, there would only be the fossilized remains of the foundation left and the very roots of my love for Templars would be ripped away from me. I would have to rapidly maneuver away from wrobel's enlightened vision and sprint down the path of darkness to reroll to a superior class like a sorc. Just thinking about it causes tears to streak down my face.

Your bitting puns do not poses the gravity to crush through the thundering power of my presence that surges through my words. Mine fury is endless, and with it I shall call storms to negate the very foundations of your Templar house.

Biting jabs of sarcastic puns cannot eclipse my class faith. Remembrance of the determined focus with which I remain devoted to the class ... oh eff it, we don't have enough good skills to warrant a Templar specific pun post. #nerfsorc

bikerangelo · March 2016

Zheg wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

@Zheg I will huff and puff and blow your house down.

With that kind of momentum, there would only be the fossilized remains of the foundation left and the very roots of my love for Templars would be ripped away from me. I would have to rapidly maneuver away from wrobel's enlightened vision and sprint down the path of darkness to reroll to a superior class like a sorc. Just thinking about it causes tears to streak down my face.

Did a double take on your posts. Bravo.

Emma_Overload · March 2016

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

pmn100b16_ESO wrote: »

I said this on another thread, pvp now feels like I'm wading through a swamp. Thoroughly frustrating to play.

In a nutshell.

I experienced a lot of immobolizes from enemies even during 1v1 situations by talon and spambard.
Only thing i can think of is to run "cleanse" abilities such as shuffle or purges but that apparently doesnt work GG lol.
Lucky for me im playing on a toon that I can smash 1 button and I'm cleaned with heals

Nobody talks about this for some reason, but even when Shuffle (or Retreating Maneuver) works, it doesn't work instantly. You're still snared for another second, which sucks, in my opinion.

HoloYoitsu · March 2016

Zheg wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

Zheg wrote: »

HoloYoitsu wrote: »

@Zheg I will huff and puff and blow your house down.

With that kind of momentum, there would only be the fossilized remains of the foundation left and the very roots of my love for Templars would be ripped away from me. I would have to rapidly maneuver away from wrobel's enlightened vision and sprint down the path of darkness to reroll to a superior class like a sorc. Just thinking about it causes tears to streak down my face.

Your bitting puns do not poses the gravity to crush through the thundering power of my presence that surges through my words. Mine fury is endless, and with it I shall call storms to negate the very foundations of your Templar house.

Biting jabs of sarcastic puns cannot eclipse my class faith. Remembrance of the determined focus with which I remain devoted to the class ... oh eff it, we don't have enough good skills to warrant a Templar specific pun post. #nerfsorc

Sorry, did I overload your home security system?

AbraXuSeXile · March 2016

Everything feels waaaay too slow

PainfulFAFA · March 2016

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

pmn100b16_ESO wrote: »

I said this on another thread, pvp now feels like I'm wading through a swamp. Thoroughly frustrating to play.

In a nutshell.

I experienced a lot of immobolizes from enemies even during 1v1 situations by talon and spambard.
Only thing i can think of is to run "cleanse" abilities such as shuffle or purges but that apparently doesnt work GG lol.
Lucky for me im playing on a toon that I can smash 1 button and I'm cleaned with heals

Nobody talks about this for some reason, but even when Shuffle (or Retreating Maneuver) works, it doesn't work instantly. You're still snared for another second, which sucks, in my opinion.

Its the perma root meta!
Thanks zos i love u

Asmael · March 2016

Ok, just had a PvP session..

It's like watching a movie in slow motion 100% of the time, seriously. It's just painful to play with builds which had very high mobility pre-TG.

I was fighting a WB spammer tonight, and just getting behind him was atrocious, even with no snare whatsoever on me.

In fact, EVERYTHING seems slown down, as if the whole game was running at 80% of its normal speed or so.

In short: Revert whatever speed-related change you did, this is a not a godamm turn-based RPG.

PainfulFAFA · March 2016

I'm starting to think there arent any cooldowns for snaring effects.
I purge it off and and im snared immediately after im hit again with the same snare ability.

KenaPKK · March 2016

Agreed. Snares are WAY to prevalent and WAY too strong in this game. And (of course) magicka gets the short end of the stick (again) because Shuffle exists.

Master_Kas · March 2016

PainfulFAFA wrote: »

I'm starting to think there arent any cooldowns for snaring effects.
I purge it off and and im snared immediately after im hit again with the same snare ability.

There is not just like roots. "Soft cc". Only shuffle/rapid .

The normal movement speed also seems way to slow without any snares too..

zyk · March 2016

Let's all just make shuffle stamina builds and run around trees all night! Problem solved.

HoloYoitsu · March 2016

zyk wrote: »

Let's all just make shuffle stamina builds and run around trees all night! Problem solved.

That's what all the pugs are doing, haven't you noticed the legions of Bombard spammers?

Cody · March 2016

the amount of roots and snares that are now in the game have killed my enjoyment of it. Gap closers have a mini snare, stampede has a high snare, the first DW skill does, bombard, and more.

and the worst of it? Only Medium armor users will have a truly reliable counter to it; we all know purge will not work. so in other words, only medium armor stam builds can effectively fight snares.

Playing any kind of ranged build is now going to literally be almost impossible due to all of these snares unless one wants to grab a bow and spam bombard or play a sorc shield stacker. forget about kiting anything without Bolt Escape, you will be snared and immobilized the entire time. Even with Bolt Escape one will have a rough time, because they will almost be locked into place. Nowadays I spend most of my time trying to turn to face my opponents, ash cloud is the only thing keeping me from being effortlessly out maneuvered by my enemies due to these snares.

RinaldoGandolphi · March 2016

I posted on the PTS about bombard being the new steel tornado spam nonsense and in a sense it is and I get ZERO pleasure out of being right....I want this game to succeed not fail but it was easy to see bombard was crazy op

Lava_Croft · March 2016

It's like playing Quake where every shot of every weapon makes your opponent be stuck and unable to move. It's beyond silly.

Derra · March 2016

I love the new stun when being sniped out of stealth. It´s applied instantly but can´t be broken out of until the skill actually hits you.
Anyone else a fan of this?

HoloYoitsu · March 2016

Derra wrote: »

I love the new stun when being sniped out of stealth. It´s applied instantly but can´t be broken out of until the skill actually hits you.
Anyone else a fan of this?

I have radiant mage light on both bars because of this.

Jhunn · March 2016

@Zheg @HoloYoitsu Beautiful punversation. Made my day.

I always said PvP couldn't get worse than 1.7. I was totally wrong and I'm embarrassed to even have said that.

Septimus_Magna · March 2016

Bombard doesnt even do dmg if you spam purge, not that this skills needs a buff but its strange to say the least.

Cant CC-break instantly half the time, really annoying and often the cause of death.

Immovable is also not always granting CC-immunity, when someone casts a meteor and I cast Immovable I often get ported back and knocked up.

These "fixes" are breaking the game piece by piece..

I would give anything for pre-lighting patch pvp at this point..

Docmandu · March 2016

KenaPKK wrote: »

Agreed. Snares are WAY to prevalent and WAY too strong in this game. And (of course) magicka gets the short end of the stick (again) because Shuffle exists.

Just use Toppling Charge since it has the gap closer 60% unbreakable, unpurgeable, undodgable, unavoidable snare... although 99% of the time it will have the 100% unbreakable, unpurgeable, undodgable, unavoidable self-skill lockout or the dump magicka and do nothing but stand there acting silly effect.

oibam · March 2016

I like it now. And to avoid snare -> speed buff. Oh, you want to play magicka bomber build and have low stamina...mhm, ok nerf snares. LOL!