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Helping you optimize your PvE DPS build

  • Steel_Brightblade
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    Ok, have a question you may be able to help with, what gear would you advise for a fire mage style dragon knight focusing on ardent flame damage? Tried using same as my sorcerer and it just doesn't seem to cut it.
  • Ra'Shtar
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    The question is how do i get 20-30k dps without animation canceling because i hate it!
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  • Humatiel
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    there is no point in the game the average player needs 20k dps @Ra'Shtar, should you have designs on optimizing your build a part will inevitably be anim canceling. You just have to decide which you want more, to hit those numbers or remain "immersed" in how you view the games abilities should be used.
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  • Ra'Shtar
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    Humatiel wrote: »
    there is no point in the game the average player needs 20k dps @Ra'Shtar, should you have designs on optimizing your build a part will inevitably be anim canceling. You just have to decide which you want more, to hit those numbers or remain "immersed" in how you view the games abilities should be used.

    This is why i hate everything in this game that is not being a healer/support.
    Some of my favorite screenshots
    My opinions and posts are mostly on a PvE setting.
  • Tholian1
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    GnGEmpire wrote: »
    Hmm, honestly didn't think that a thread designed genuinely to be helpful could become so toxic so fast..

    Oh well, hopefully we can get back on track.

    You are very helpful. Thanks for offering your insight.
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  • Humatiel
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    Ra'Shtar wrote: »
    Humatiel wrote: »
    there is no point in the game the average player needs 20k dps @Ra'Shtar, should you have designs on optimizing your build a part will inevitably be anim canceling. You just have to decide which you want more, to hit those numbers or remain "immersed" in how you view the games abilities should be used.

    This is why i hate everything in this game that is not being a healer/support.
    Ra'Shtar wrote: »
    Humatiel wrote: »
    there is no point in the game the average player needs 20k dps @Ra'Shtar, should you have designs on optimizing your build a part will inevitably be anim canceling. You just have to decide which you want more, to hit those numbers or remain "immersed" in how you view the games abilities should be used.

    This is why i hate everything in this game that is not being a healer/support.

    I personally find a good healer far more valuable then someone that wants to be a good dps. As I said you dont need dps beyond a point but you better bet if you get a healer who thinks his only job is to provide health that team will suffer. If you like the support role then why not stick with it then make a dps for fun in environments that dont need you to animation cancel (pledges for instance).
    VMA | vHRC-HM | vAA-HM | vSO-HM | vMOL-HM
    700+ CP
    GM of Luxury Raids
  • GnGEmpire
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    Ok, have a question you may be able to help with, what gear would you advise for a fire mage style dragon knight focusing on ardent flame damage? Tried using same as my sorcerer and it just doesn't seem to cut it.

    @Steel_Brightblade

    If we talk gearwise only, you will see the best performance from using a 5piece julianos set +thief mundus stone on a magicka DK, and inferno staff as your weapon. Ideally you'll wanna double bar it too on a DK.

    Your best option right now (and the hardest to achieve) is 5p julianos +2p molag kena + 2 maelstrom inferno staves (i don't even have 2 of those yet)

    Other good options would be:

    5p juli + 1p kena + 2 torug's pact
    5p juli + 2p narieneth + no set staff or maelstrom/master staff if you have it
    5p juli + 2p kena + no set staff or maelstrom/master staff if you have it
    Edited by GnGEmpire on February 25, 2016 7:48AM
    Casualty - small high end/end game PvE guild. Recruiting!
  • GnGEmpire
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    Ra'Shtar wrote: »
    The question is how do i get 20-30k dps without animation canceling because i hate it!
    @Ra'Shtar
    Probably can only be done with a sorc spamming overload or a magicka templar spamming dark flare until execute range. (very difficult to sustain your magicka on the latter)
    Might be doable with pure WB spam for stam chars, but i haven't tested it.
    This is assuming you have perfect gear pretty much
    Edited by GnGEmpire on February 25, 2016 7:56AM
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  • GnGEmpire
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    Tholian1 wrote: »
    GnGEmpire wrote: »
    Hmm, honestly didn't think that a thread designed genuinely to be helpful could become so toxic so fast..

    Oh well, hopefully we can get back on track.

    You are very helpful. Thanks for offering your insight.

    cheers pal
    Casualty - small high end/end game PvE guild. Recruiting!
  • Ra'Shtar
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    GnGEmpire wrote: »
    Ra'Shtar wrote: »
    The question is how do i get 20-30k dps without animation canceling because i hate it!
    @Ra'Shtar
    Probably can only be done with a sorc spamming overload or a magicka templar spamming dark flare until execute range. (very difficult to sustain your magicka on the latter)
    Might be doable with pure WB stam for stam chars, but i haven't tested it.
    This is assuming you have perfect gear pretty much

    Wow and i thought the 1 button spam joke was just a joke :neutral:
    Some of my favorite screenshots
    My opinions and posts are mostly on a PvE setting.
  • mertusta
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    Thanks for your help regarding my question. 10/10 would ask again :p It's good to see benevolent people. <3
    Edited by mertusta on March 9, 2016 9:55PM
  • Steel_Brightblade
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    GnGEmpire wrote: »
    Ok, have a question you may be able to help with, what gear would you advise for a fire mage style dragon knight focusing on ardent flame damage? Tried using same as my sorcerer and it just doesn't seem to cut it.

    @Steel_Brightblade

    If we talk gearwise only, you will see the best performance from using a 5piece julianos set +thief mundus stone on a magicka DK, and inferno staff as your weapon. Ideally you'll wanna double bar it too on a DK.

    Your best option right now (and the hardest to achieve) is 5p julianos +2p molag kena + 2 maelstrom inferno staves (i don't even have 2 of those yet)

    Other good options would be:

    5p juli + 1p kena + 2 torug's pact
    5p juli + 2p narieneth + no set staff or maelstrom/master staff if you have it
    5p juli + 2p kena + no set staff or maelstrom/master staff if you have it

    I was thinking 5p juli + 2p valkyn skoria + 3p willpower and maelstrom staff.

    Though the helm is eluding me at the moment and I haven't test finished maelstrom. Reason for this is that I tend to run 4-5 dots at all times, these won't proc nerieneths but will proc the valkyn skoria helm.
  • GnGEmpire
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    mertusta wrote: »
    Thanks for your help regarding my question. 10/10 would ask again :p It's good to see benevolent people. <3

    Happy that I could be of help!
    GnGEmpire wrote: »
    Ok, have a question you may be able to help with, what gear would you advise for a fire mage style dragon knight focusing on ardent flame damage? Tried using same as my sorcerer and it just doesn't seem to cut it.

    @Steel_Brightblade

    If we talk gearwise only, you will see the best performance from using a 5piece julianos set +thief mundus stone on a magicka DK, and inferno staff as your weapon. Ideally you'll wanna double bar it too on a DK.

    Your best option right now (and the hardest to achieve) is 5p julianos +2p molag kena + 2 maelstrom inferno staves (i don't even have 2 of those yet)

    Other good options would be:

    5p juli + 1p kena + 2 torug's pact
    5p juli + 2p narieneth + no set staff or maelstrom/master staff if you have it
    5p juli + 2p kena + no set staff or maelstrom/master staff if you have it

    I was thinking 5p juli + 2p valkyn skoria + 3p willpower and maelstrom staff.

    Though the helm is eluding me at the moment and I haven't test finished maelstrom. Reason for this is that I tend to run 4-5 dots at all times, these won't proc nerieneths but will proc the valkyn skoria helm.

    As much as I would love Skoria to be a good choice for heavy DoT builds, it's not because as far as I know it still procs off of only 1 DoT at a time, so it doesn't matter if you have 1 dot up at all times, or 5.

    This is why Nari/Kena are the top picks
    Casualty - small high end/end game PvE guild. Recruiting!
  • Samphaa
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    Valn wrote: »
    how do i get 20-30k dps using dk stamina build?

    Maelstrom dagger and axe
  • xellink
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    Humatiel wrote: »
    there is no point in the game the average player needs 20k dps @Ra'Shtar, should you have designs on optimizing your build a part will inevitably be anim canceling. You just have to decide which you want more, to hit those numbers or remain "immersed" in how you view the games abilities should be used.

    It is possible to hit 20k dps. Consider heavy attack cancel, its not really cancel, u just have to hold the attack button while you use skills. Don't even need to time.

    Of course, 30k becomes harder.

    Anything >30k for a DPS is rather unnecessary and i prefer to prioritise survivability.
  • Mush55
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    Some times wonder, some one offers to help people ingame with there build and the nit picking starts :/
  • Steel_Brightblade
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    GnGEmpire wrote: »
    mertusta wrote: »
    Thanks for your help regarding my question. 10/10 would ask again :p It's good to see benevolent people. <3

    Happy that I could be of help!
    GnGEmpire wrote: »
    Ok, have a question you may be able to help with, what gear would you advise for a fire mage style dragon knight focusing on ardent flame damage? Tried using same as my sorcerer and it just doesn't seem to cut it.

    @Steel_Brightblade

    If we talk gearwise only, you will see the best performance from using a 5piece julianos set +thief mundus stone on a magicka DK, and inferno staff as your weapon. Ideally you'll wanna double bar it too on a DK.

    Your best option right now (and the hardest to achieve) is 5p julianos +2p molag kena + 2 maelstrom inferno staves (i don't even have 2 of those yet)

    Other good options would be:

    5p juli + 1p kena + 2 torug's pact
    5p juli + 2p narieneth + no set staff or maelstrom/master staff if you have it
    5p juli + 2p kena + no set staff or maelstrom/master staff if you have it

    I was thinking 5p juli + 2p valkyn skoria + 3p willpower and maelstrom staff.

    Though the helm is eluding me at the moment and I haven't test finished maelstrom. Reason for this is that I tend to run 4-5 dots at all times, these won't proc nerieneths but will proc the valkyn skoria helm.

    As much as I would love Skoria to be a good choice for heavy DoT builds, it's not because as far as I know it still procs off of only 1 DoT at a time, so it doesn't matter if you have 1 dot up at all times, or 5.

    This is why Nari/Kena are the top picks

    Ah this I didn't know, disappointing but thanks for the advice.
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