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Do you know that you can scale any premade group?

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  • Sallington
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    Taemethius wrote: »
    This is very easy to do.

    1. V2 adds 3 v16
    2. V16 load into dung which will stay v2
    3. V2 leaves and gets on his main. And regroups.
    4. 4 v16 run through a v2 dung in minutes.
    5. Very fast gold keys

    This seems extremely overkill, especially since all but 2 Vet Dungeons can pretty much be facerolled by any v16 group.
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  • Unsent.Soul
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    NinjaMyk wrote: »
    It is done by creating a group of 3 and starting a queue for the dungeon you want then immediately invite your 4th person the dungeon will now be scaled to vet 16 with all your stats at scaled vet 16 and all loot drops at right level for each individual

    Thanks for this, seeing as the OP makes it seem so simple but refuses to elaborate.
  • Troneon
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    Sallington wrote: »
    Taemethius wrote: »
    This is very easy to do.

    1. V2 adds 3 v16
    2. V16 load into dung which will stay v2
    3. V2 leaves and gets on his main. And regroups.
    4. 4 v16 run through a v2 dung in minutes.
    5. Very fast gold keys

    This seems extremely overkill, especially since all but 2 Vet Dungeons can pretty much be facerolled by any v16 group.

    It is also pretty pointless since your losing chances of getting max level helms which are already stupidly low chance to get...for a few minutes faster silver / gold key which you can get easily anyway...
    Edited by Troneon on March 8, 2016 10:45PM
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  • BippNasty
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    Does this all seem overly complicated? From what i always heard, ALL dungeons except possibly the veteran dungeons scale to the group leader. So a group goes into the dungeon with 4 players and no matter how the group was formed the dungeon scales to the leader. Want to make it easier? everyone leave the dungeon, ungroup then regroup with whoever you want as the leader for the dungeon to scale to then go back in. I didnt think the way the group was formed matters at all. If this is wrong can someone let me know with a nice confident answer please?
  • NBrookus
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    BippNasty wrote: »
    Does this all seem overly complicated? From what i always heard, ALL dungeons except possibly the veteran dungeons scale to the group leader. So a group goes into the dungeon with 4 players and no matter how the group was formed the dungeon scales to the leader. Want to make it easier? everyone leave the dungeon, ungroup then regroup with whoever you want as the leader for the dungeon to scale to then go back in. I didnt think the way the group was formed matters at all. If this is wrong can someone let me know with a nice confident answer please?

    If you have 3 V16s and a V1 and a V16 is the group leader, the dungeon will scale to V16 but the V1 will not be scaled up. If you make the V1 the leader, the dungeon is scaled V1 and everyone gets V1 loot.

    The former workaround scaled up the V1 to V16 for the duration of the dungeon, but still dropped V1 loot for the V1. The V16s got their V16 loot.
  • Itoq
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    remilafo wrote: »
    a huge percent of the population still think the LFG tool is terrible

    I don't know why that would be. The tool has always been dependable, quick and a great way to get a group going.

    But for reals group finder does work sometimes and the interface has been improved.

    All of the below were added by group finder while lfg random vet dungeon. in. Probably only four would have been auto ported in, but it would have been funny if it was all seven (I left after taking screenshot.)

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    Edited by Itoq on March 9, 2016 1:35AM
  • remilafo
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    So yesterday night, i found that the LFG tool will EVENTUALLY put you into a dungeon with a four person premade group...

    example

    form your 4 person group..

    turn on LFG ...

    wait..

    eventually get ported into selected dungeon..


    The issue is the wait time ranged from 2min - 10min ... why is there even a wait time? the group is formed and ready to go..

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  • CirithValaria
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    remilafo wrote: »
    So yesterday night, i found that the LFG tool will EVENTUALLY put you into a dungeon with a four person premade group...

    example

    form your 4 person group..

    turn on LFG ...

    wait..

    eventually get ported into selected dungeon..


    The issue is the wait time ranged from 2min - 10min ... why is there even a wait time? the group is formed and ready to go..

    @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Yeah I tested this too, but after about 5 min I didn't believe it will ever port us and we went in...wasn't fun :dizzy:
    Might need to give more time then...
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    Tummien-Vesien-Tulkki | Argonian (M) | Blood Shield, Nightblade Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Valonkantaja | Argonian (F) | Healer of the Hist, Templar Healer | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Tulenvalaja | Argonian (M) | Guardian of the Hist, Dragonknight DD (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kuolon-Raatojen-Kaitsija | Argonian (M) | Corpsekeeper of the Hist, Necromancer Tank (magic) | lvl 20 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kal-Mah | Argonian (F) | Spawn of Wamasu, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Puutiainen | Bosmer (F) | Horny Ravager, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Musta-Surma | Khajiit (F) | Nightpawler, Nightblade DD - thief/murderer (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
    T'Sok Shiar | Altmer (F) | Touched by Daedra, Sorcerer DD (magic) | (ex)VR 1 | Daggerfall Covenant (Master Cook - all recipes.)
    S'auron | Khajiit (M) | Poison Paw, Dragonknight DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (1100CP)

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    Stormpaw | Khajiit (F) | Cpt. Pirate Puss, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Iliath Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Storm Ward, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Haudantakainen | Argonian (M) | Pale Avenger, Nightblade DD (magic) | lvl 25 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kira Tal'Shiar | Breton (F) | Warrior of Light, Templar DD (magic) | lvl 10 | Ebonheart Pact
    Sunpaw | Khajiit (M) | Crescent Moon Guardian, Templar Tank (stamina, PvP) | lvl 40 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Shangri Shadowtusk | Orc (F) | Shadowtusk, Nightblade DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (180CP)

    @CirithValaria(ps4-eu)
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    Her-Frozen-Heart | Argonian (F) | Frozen Shield, Warden Tank (magicka) | lvl 5 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Neazgûl | Redguard (F) | Bear Matron, Warden DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (160CP)
  • CirithValaria
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    zmobie_dementor wrote: »
    Have you tried not starting the tool until after the group is formed? I mean by following these steps:

    1. Form your group of 4 with all roles (Tank, Healer, 2 DPS)
    2. Queue for a Specific dungeon (by putting a check mark next to that dungeon on the select screen)
    3. Wait for LFG tool to port you into the dungeon (there should be notification below your current quest saying Queued, then In Progress once you are able to port to dungeon).
    4. Profit (?)

    The important part is that you have to be ported to the dungeon by the auto-porter, not enter it manually via a wayshrine -- I think that's what triggers the scaling, now. Since cross-faction grouping is now enabled and works the same as intra-faction grouping, if you manually enter a dungeon without waiting to be ported, your group will just scale to current leader.

    Never gotten this to work yet..and my patience has ended at 15 minute mark :\
    It just doesn't port. All steps done right.

    EDIT:
    Even que in random dungeon with premade group (Tank/Healer/2xDD) took 5 min before I lost patience and left the que. The tool has 1 job - choose random dungeon and it even fails in that :open_mouth:

    Pls @zos bring back the old one :(
    Edited by CirithValaria on March 11, 2016 11:23PM
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    Cirith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Lady of Light, Templar DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Aldmeri Dominion (Master Crafter - all crafts, traits & styles.)
    Nezghul Sithis | Breton (F) | Winter Ward, Warden Tank (magic) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Hakrate Hecate | Orc (F) | Dying Light, Templar DD (stamina, PvP) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Tummien-Vesien-Tulkki | Argonian (M) | Blood Shield, Nightblade Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Valonkantaja | Argonian (F) | Healer of the Hist, Templar Healer | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Tulenvalaja | Argonian (M) | Guardian of the Hist, Dragonknight DD (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kuolon-Raatojen-Kaitsija | Argonian (M) | Corpsekeeper of the Hist, Necromancer Tank (magic) | lvl 20 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kal-Mah | Argonian (F) | Spawn of Wamasu, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Puutiainen | Bosmer (F) | Horny Ravager, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Musta-Surma | Khajiit (F) | Nightpawler, Nightblade DD - thief/murderer (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
    T'Sok Shiar | Altmer (F) | Touched by Daedra, Sorcerer DD (magic) | (ex)VR 1 | Daggerfall Covenant (Master Cook - all recipes.)
    S'auron | Khajiit (M) | Poison Paw, Dragonknight DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (1100CP)

    @Lilith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
    Lilith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Phœnix, Dragonknight Healer | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Stormpaw | Khajiit (F) | Cpt. Pirate Puss, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Iliath Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Storm Ward, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Haudantakainen | Argonian (M) | Pale Avenger, Nightblade DD (magic) | lvl 25 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kira Tal'Shiar | Breton (F) | Warrior of Light, Templar DD (magic) | lvl 10 | Ebonheart Pact
    Sunpaw | Khajiit (M) | Crescent Moon Guardian, Templar Tank (stamina, PvP) | lvl 40 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Shangri Shadowtusk | Orc (F) | Shadowtusk, Nightblade DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (180CP)

    @CirithValaria(ps4-eu)
    Topaz-dar | Khajiit (F) | Mysticat, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 5 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Her-Frozen-Heart | Argonian (F) | Frozen Shield, Warden Tank (magicka) | lvl 5 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Neazgûl | Redguard (F) | Bear Matron, Warden DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (160CP)
  • CirithValaria
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    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/253125/battle-leveling-scaling-changes-for-group-finder#latest
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    | The Sanctum Sanctorum - founder & guild master |

    Characters:
    @Cirith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
    Cirith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Lady of Light, Templar DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Aldmeri Dominion (Master Crafter - all crafts, traits & styles.)
    Nezghul Sithis | Breton (F) | Winter Ward, Warden Tank (magic) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Hakrate Hecate | Orc (F) | Dying Light, Templar DD (stamina, PvP) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Tummien-Vesien-Tulkki | Argonian (M) | Blood Shield, Nightblade Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Valonkantaja | Argonian (F) | Healer of the Hist, Templar Healer | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Tulenvalaja | Argonian (M) | Guardian of the Hist, Dragonknight DD (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kuolon-Raatojen-Kaitsija | Argonian (M) | Corpsekeeper of the Hist, Necromancer Tank (magic) | lvl 20 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kal-Mah | Argonian (F) | Spawn of Wamasu, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Puutiainen | Bosmer (F) | Horny Ravager, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Musta-Surma | Khajiit (F) | Nightpawler, Nightblade DD - thief/murderer (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
    T'Sok Shiar | Altmer (F) | Touched by Daedra, Sorcerer DD (magic) | (ex)VR 1 | Daggerfall Covenant (Master Cook - all recipes.)
    S'auron | Khajiit (M) | Poison Paw, Dragonknight DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (1100CP)

    @Lilith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
    Lilith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Phœnix, Dragonknight Healer | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Stormpaw | Khajiit (F) | Cpt. Pirate Puss, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Iliath Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Storm Ward, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Haudantakainen | Argonian (M) | Pale Avenger, Nightblade DD (magic) | lvl 25 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kira Tal'Shiar | Breton (F) | Warrior of Light, Templar DD (magic) | lvl 10 | Ebonheart Pact
    Sunpaw | Khajiit (M) | Crescent Moon Guardian, Templar Tank (stamina, PvP) | lvl 40 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Shangri Shadowtusk | Orc (F) | Shadowtusk, Nightblade DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (180CP)

    @CirithValaria(ps4-eu)
    Topaz-dar | Khajiit (F) | Mysticat, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 5 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Her-Frozen-Heart | Argonian (F) | Frozen Shield, Warden Tank (magicka) | lvl 5 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Neazgûl | Redguard (F) | Bear Matron, Warden DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (160CP)
  • Elloa
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    CirithValaria wrote: »
    zmobie_dementor wrote: »
    Have you tried not starting the tool until after the group is formed? I mean by following these steps:

    1. Form your group of 4 with all roles (Tank, Healer, 2 DPS)
    2. Queue for a Specific dungeon (by putting a check mark next to that dungeon on the select screen)
    3. Wait for LFG tool to port you into the dungeon (there should be notification below your current quest saying Queued, then In Progress once you are able to port to dungeon).
    4. Profit (?)

    The important part is that you have to be ported to the dungeon by the auto-porter, not enter it manually via a wayshrine -- I think that's what triggers the scaling, now. Since cross-faction grouping is now enabled and works the same as intra-faction grouping, if you manually enter a dungeon without waiting to be ported, your group will just scale to current leader.

    Never gotten this to work yet..and my patience has ended at 15 minute mark :\
    It just doesn't port. All steps done right.

    EDIT:
    Even que in random dungeon with premade group (Tank/Healer/2xDD) took 5 min before I lost patience and left the que. The tool has 1 job - choose random dungeon and it even fails in that :open_mouth:

    Pls @zos bring back the old one :(

    it works. There is just a delay of 20min. Which should not exist. But still, the system works, beside the waiting time.

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  • CirithValaria
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    Elloa wrote: »
    CirithValaria wrote: »
    zmobie_dementor wrote: »
    Have you tried not starting the tool until after the group is formed? I mean by following these steps:

    1. Form your group of 4 with all roles (Tank, Healer, 2 DPS)
    2. Queue for a Specific dungeon (by putting a check mark next to that dungeon on the select screen)
    3. Wait for LFG tool to port you into the dungeon (there should be notification below your current quest saying Queued, then In Progress once you are able to port to dungeon).
    4. Profit (?)

    The important part is that you have to be ported to the dungeon by the auto-porter, not enter it manually via a wayshrine -- I think that's what triggers the scaling, now. Since cross-faction grouping is now enabled and works the same as intra-faction grouping, if you manually enter a dungeon without waiting to be ported, your group will just scale to current leader.

    Never gotten this to work yet..and my patience has ended at 15 minute mark :\
    It just doesn't port. All steps done right.

    EDIT:
    Even que in random dungeon with premade group (Tank/Healer/2xDD) took 5 min before I lost patience and left the que. The tool has 1 job - choose random dungeon and it even fails in that :open_mouth:

    Pls @zos bring back the old one :(

    it works. There is just a delay of 20min. Which should not exist. But still, the system works, beside the waiting time.

    well I'm glad it works for you - that's all I can say :)
    Motto:
    “What we have done for ourselves alone dies with us...
    What we have done for others and the world, it remains and is immortal...”
    About me:
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    | hardcore-casual | pc-eu / ps4-eu | pve | pvp | player since early beta | subscriber since early-launch |
    | The Sanctum Sanctorum - founder & guild master |

    Characters:
    @Cirith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
    Cirith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Lady of Light, Templar DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Aldmeri Dominion (Master Crafter - all crafts, traits & styles.)
    Nezghul Sithis | Breton (F) | Winter Ward, Warden Tank (magic) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Hakrate Hecate | Orc (F) | Dying Light, Templar DD (stamina, PvP) | lvl 50 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Tummien-Vesien-Tulkki | Argonian (M) | Blood Shield, Nightblade Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Valonkantaja | Argonian (F) | Healer of the Hist, Templar Healer | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Tulenvalaja | Argonian (M) | Guardian of the Hist, Dragonknight DD (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kuolon-Raatojen-Kaitsija | Argonian (M) | Corpsekeeper of the Hist, Necromancer Tank (magic) | lvl 20 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kal-Mah | Argonian (F) | Spawn of Wamasu, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | (ex)VR 16 | Ebonheart Pact
    Puutiainen | Bosmer (F) | Horny Ravager, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Musta-Surma | Khajiit (F) | Nightpawler, Nightblade DD - thief/murderer (stamina) | (ex)VR 16 | Daggerfall Covenant
    T'Sok Shiar | Altmer (F) | Touched by Daedra, Sorcerer DD (magic) | (ex)VR 1 | Daggerfall Covenant (Master Cook - all recipes.)
    S'auron | Khajiit (M) | Poison Paw, Dragonknight DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (1100CP)

    @Lilith-Valar'ia(pc-eu)
    Lilith Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Phœnix, Dragonknight Healer | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Stormpaw | Khajiit (F) | Cpt. Pirate Puss, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Iliath Valar'ia | Dunmer (F) | Storm Ward, Sorcerer Tank (magic) | lvl 25 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Haudantakainen | Argonian (M) | Pale Avenger, Nightblade DD (magic) | lvl 25 | Ebonheart Pact
    Kira Tal'Shiar | Breton (F) | Warrior of Light, Templar DD (magic) | lvl 10 | Ebonheart Pact
    Sunpaw | Khajiit (M) | Crescent Moon Guardian, Templar Tank (stamina, PvP) | lvl 40 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Shangri Shadowtusk | Orc (F) | Shadowtusk, Nightblade DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (180CP)

    @CirithValaria(ps4-eu)
    Topaz-dar | Khajiit (F) | Mysticat, Sorcerer DD (stamina) | lvl 5 | Aldmeri Dominion
    Her-Frozen-Heart | Argonian (F) | Frozen Shield, Warden Tank (magicka) | lvl 5 | Daggerfall Covenant
    Neazgûl | Redguard (F) | Bear Matron, Warden DD (stamina) | lvl 50 | Daggerfall Covenant
    (160CP)
  • remilafo
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    nice post... thanks for helping out on this.
  • remilafo
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    has anyone been in game yet today and had a chance to check if this was fixed?
  • remilafo
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    This has not been fixed this weeks patch..

    I can't even believe it, ZOS how are you not seeing this as a Huge priority?

    Losing the ability to instantly scale a premade group is ESSENTIAL to this game being inclusive to our friends, guildmates and even strangers. As it stand right now everyone is back to LFG V16 blah blah..
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