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Nightblade cloak is broken - cant cloak if affected by damage over time
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ThatNeonZebraAgain✭✭✭✭✭Not intended. Looks like an old bug is back if this is the case. Cloak was broken for the first year and a half of the frickin' game, and then once it actually works it is nerfed and now broken in the process.
According to today's patch notes, Cloak "suppresses" DoTs, meaning it no longer purges them like it used to, but instead puts their damage to 0 while you are invisible. This means that in order to avoid DoT damage, you have to keep cloaking until the DoT duration runs out. DoT ticks should not bring you back out of invisible status.Edited by ThatNeonZebraAgain on March 7, 2016 6:55PMGore-of-the-Forest Argonian Nightblade
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just forget cloak, actually forget any sort of stealth (and any boni that are related to it)
ZOS logic: Thieves guild <=> remove stealth from game8 -
OdinForge✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭This is how shadowy disguise worked prior to 1.9, if you had a dot on you it'd break. Shadowy disguise gives you a guaranteed crit on your attack, it didn't cleanse dots.
Sounds like when they changed cloak for 1.9, they messed up and now cloak in general works like shadowy disguise did before. Even though cloak (all versions now) is supposed to suppress dots not cleanse or break from them.
To be honest that actually sounds typical of ZOS level incompetence, I hope it's wrong though.Edited by OdinForge on March 7, 2016 7:49PMThe Age of Wrobel.5 -
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✭@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_BrianWheeler can we have a update on this and can you tell us is this working as intended or not so I can prepare for this on consoles?2 -
ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerWhich DoT are you being affected by when this is happening?Gina Bruno
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Stef89✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Which DoT are you being affected by when this is happening?
Siege weapons, nightblade cripple and sorcerer dot.0 -
SneaK✭✭✭✭✭
✭@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_BrianWheeler can we have a update on this and can you tell us is this working as intended or not so I can prepare for this on consoles?
Ridiculous how we have to read about bugs that are coming our way.
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Jaronking✭✭✭✭✭
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I totally agree with you like the battlesprit bug that the released on consoles with almost a month noticed.I doubt they will fix it before the 22.@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_KaiSchober @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_BrianWheeler can we have a update on this and can you tell us is this working as intended or not so I can prepare for this on consoles?
Ridiculous how we have to read about bugs that are coming our way.0 -
Ffastyl✭✭✭✭✭Siege weapons, nightblade cripple and sorcerer dot.
I have some questions for clarification:
For siege weapons, are you getting hit by a several in quick succession or under fire from other sources (player AoE, keep guards)? Taking damage from a non-single-target attack or enemy with detection will break stealth.
Are you sure you were not marked (Nightblade skill) when brought out of stealth via damage? Piercing Mark allows the caster to see through stealth and invisibility, allowing single-target abilities to work. The nightblade could also have used Magelight, which is an anti-stealth ability. I would mention Flare, but that ability and its detection radius are rather obvious.
Was the "sorcerer dot" Velocious Curse? That is not a DoT but a delayed damage attack. Templar's Power of the Light is a similar ability, dealing damage after a delay. Delayed damage is not a damage over time effect so cloak will do nothing against it."A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."
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OdinForge✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Has this issue been confirmed yet?Siege weapons, nightblade cripple and sorcerer dot.
I have some questions for clarification:
For siege weapons, are you getting hit by a several in quick succession or under fire from other sources (player AoE, keep guards)? Taking damage from a non-single-target attack or enemy with detection will break stealth.
Are you sure you were not marked (Nightblade skill) when brought out of stealth via damage? Piercing Mark allows the caster to see through stealth and invisibility, allowing single-target abilities to work. The nightblade could also have used Magelight, which is an anti-stealth ability. I would mention Flare, but that ability and its detection radius are rather obvious.
Was the "sorcerer dot" Velocious Curse? That is not a DoT but a delayed damage attack. Templar's Power of the Light is a similar ability, dealing damage after a delay. Delayed damage is not a damage over time effect so cloak will do nothing against it.
Just a heads up, curse behaves like a DoT with cloak. You couldn't cleanse curse with dark cloak in the past, but if you had the shadowy disguise morph and tried to cloak while curse was on you it'd break it like a DoT.
I'm not sure if there is really an issue, but if there is it's likely related to what I said in #7.The Age of Wrobel.1 -
GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭probably a latency problem.
the 0 tick damage is taking to long to activate and the game thinks your taking damage with cloak not up but it really is.
this is just what i think is happening.PS4 NA DC0 -
revonine✭✭✭✭GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »probably a latency problem.
the 0 tick damage is taking to long to activate and the game thinks your taking damage with cloak not up but it really is.
this is just what i think is happening.
I hope this is the case I'd rather not return to the good old days of having to spam cloak like a lunatic just for it to actually work. Efficient Purge and I will be getting well acquainted once again.1 -
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✭I have not had this problem at all. I am able to cloak while hit with dots. Has worked for players and siege.0 -
ThatNeonZebraAgain✭✭✭✭✭Shadowy Disguise is breaking against PvE mobs too. Would hit it and pop right back out even when they mob isn't attacking. This is just like how Cloak behaved for the first year and a half of the game where it was straight broken.Gore-of-the-Forest Argonian Nightblade
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nilldax✭✭✭Actualy any kind of DoT breaks up Cloak skill, Posion Injection, Flag NPCs, Bleeding and so on. Both versions (Dark/Shadowy) are affected. Maybe game counts ticks for "0" as damae taken (which should break cloak, like AoE) and revaals... At least this looks like it.1
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✭Can confirm. Any kind of dot applied to me breaks cloak as soon as i activate it.
Pls dont make us wait for a whole year for fix. You know many ppl play NBs and you will loose money if not fixed soon
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Xvorg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Not all NBs slot cloak. Nevertheless, the change done to scorching flare now seems quite useless since most NBs will have to drop cloak not for that skill, but for the bad implementation.
Anyway, what makes NBs dangerous is still there: Ambush...
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on March 9, 2016 9:07PMSarcasm is something too serious to be taken lightly
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nilldax✭✭✭Its more like bad implementation than intended mechanic (read Natch Potes to learn what changes were). Even with not working Cloak skill i can slot Purge - what a differnce?
P.S raging around isnt good for health
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on March 9, 2016 9:08PM1 -
Oreyn_Bearclaw✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I knew this was going to happen. They finally got cloak to work as intended, people cried, and their solution was to make a skill that took 18 months to perfect wildly more complicated. Now its broken again...6 -
Azarath_tiberius✭✭✭Not all NBs slot cloak. Nevertheless, the change done to scorching flare now seems quite useless since most NBs will have to drop cloak not for that skill, but for the bad implementation.
Anyway, what makes NBs dangerous is still there: Ambush...
You're right. 99% of them slot cloak. And not just ambush, surprise attack as well...
[minor edit to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on March 9, 2016 9:10PM0
