New Thieves Trove provide too much loot?
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RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see destroyed by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.Edited by RazielSR on March 8, 2016 4:36PM1 -
Alabyn✭✭✭The respawn timer doesn't seem to relate to other nodes getting looted. You can camp the treasure troves and pop them every 90 seconds approximately.
I'd say increase the timer, or relate the nodes to other troves being looted. I like the big rewards!Edited by Alabyn on March 8, 2016 4:35PM0 -
TheDarkShadow✭✭✭✭✭
✭The economy will be broken when the gap between vet and new players become to big. In some games, vet players can farm mobs or dungeons at high level and make so much gold they push the market price up. New players don't have access to high level zones where mobs drop more gold, dungeons that drop more cool stuffs. Things that they can farm at low level like low tier mats aren't needed by vet players so they have no way to make money and can't afford to buy things anymore.
I thing ESO is quite easy for new players to get gold. Some of the most common way to "farm" gold, which is go around and farm mats, herbs, stealing, fishing... can be done by all players, new or vet, and high level players still wants raw mats, herbs and fish so they all have a fair chance to make money. The new thief troves is the same, all players at all level can farm them (if they buy the DLC or sub) so it won't broke the economy IMO.Edited by TheDarkShadow on March 8, 2016 4:36PM4 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
Edit: BTW, how much fun are your 50k a day, when you could have this in 50 minutes camping a trove?Edited by Lysette on March 8, 2016 4:37PM1 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The respawn timer doesn't seem to relate to other nodes getting looted. You can camp the treasure troves and pop them every 90 seconds approximately.
But you cant sell all this loot to normal merchant, only to fence... And they have daily limits. And thsoe 10 white quality items already take 10 slots.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Garldeen✭✭✭✭From the teaser videos, I was under the impression that these would be a collectible thing. There would be x amount over the world and we would need to find them as we go (like sky shards etc). Therefore meaning that we could only collect them once. Would have also given something to work towards.1 -
EnemyOfDaState✭✭✭✭The thing that kill me about this are that the people crying are probably the same dudes that farm nodes or trophies in the ic sewers. When it's all said and done farm is farming get over it.0 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
How its different from looting all containers in Wayerst, relogging and looting them again?Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
Are you really reading what you are saying?
You know you can just sell 140 trove items a day?
Do you know that while you are wasting time by doing that you can earn 4 times that money with about 6 other ways ingame? You know how?? camping too XD and zerging.
troves will help new people!! Thats all!!!
Oh this cant be serious.Edited by RazielSR on March 8, 2016 4:40PM5 -
Runs✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I think that's why they are counted as stolen goods, so you have a max amount you can sell a day.Runs| Orc Nightblade • Chim-el Adabal| Dunmer Templar • M'air the Honest| Khajiit Templar
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LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
Are you really reading what you are saying?
You know you can just sell 140 trove items a day?
Do you know that while you are wasting time by doing that you can earn 4 times that money with about 6 other ways ingame?
troves will help new people!! Thats all!!!
Oh this cant be serious.
Exactly this.
Yeah, it might seem super proftable... You can make 400 gold at once! But the thing is, that with daily limit even relogging and looting Wayrest castle is more profitable, because it often drops blues and greens, and sometiems even purples - while treasure boxes found in troves only drop 10 white items.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
How its different from looting all containers in Wayerst, relogging and looting them again?
You can stay in one location - that is camping - and loot them over and over and over and over again - roughly within 1 or 2 minutes time - if the loot would be great but the troves would just appear once in 30-90 minutes that it would take some effort to get the loot, that would be different - but as it is now, there is no effort involved. And it takes away from the pleasure to get a reward for other activities, because it is devalued.Edited by Lysette on March 8, 2016 4:43PM1 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Lysette,as I can see from your join date,you are new and need to learn a lot of this game and how the grind and economy works. Your whole posts makes no sense if you really know how the game works. Thing is that as you dont know about the ways of making gold,you have now seen the trove thing that is something clear for all and you see that as a menace.
Im having serious laughs tbh. You seem a good and honorable person anyway.Edited by RazielSR on March 8, 2016 4:55PM0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
Are you really reading what you are saying?
You know you can just sell 140 trove items a day?
Do you know that while you are wasting time by doing that you can earn 4 times that money with about 6 other ways ingame? You know how?? camping too XD and zerging.
troves will help new people!! Thats all!!!
Oh this cant be serious.
8 x 140 items = 1120 items with those 8 characters you have - each worth at least 40 gold makes 44.8k gold. What is roughly 10 times more than I can currently make with doing writs - so why would I even want to do writs? but why would I want to do camping? - why would I even want to play this game, if it is not fun anymore.Edited by Lysette on March 8, 2016 4:50PM0 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
How its different from looting all containers in Wayerst, relogging and looting them again?
You can stay in one location - that is camping - and loot them over and over and over and over again - roughly within 1 or 2 minutes time - if the loot would be great but the troves would just appear once in 30-90 minutes that it would take some effort to get the loot, that would be different - but as it is now, there is no effort involved. And it takes away from the pleasure to get a reward for other activities, because it is devalued.
Relogging is the same - I know that some people are using bots for this, and its faster than waiting for respawn, and also gives better items as well as motifs (which imo covers the questionable "effort" of logging back and forth).
Yeah, it doesnt require much effort either way, but profit from troves is really low. I dont remember how many items you can fence per day, but I think its around 150 or 160. 150x40 (price of white item) = 6k gold per day. Those enourmous profits will surely ruin economy.
Imo the boxes just should be locked to avoid bots... And that's it.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
Edit: BTW, how much fun are your 50k a day, when you could have this in 50 minutes camping a trove?Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
Edit: BTW, how much fun are your 50k a day, when you could have this in 50 minutes camping a trove?
Errrm what? A day I mean logging and grinding for 30 minutes and then do real gaming things. If you grind in the real gold spots 24 hours you would get milloons.
I have about 15 millions and dont usually grind.2 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
Are you really reading what you are saying?
You know you can just sell 140 trove items a day?
Do you know that while you are wasting time by doing that you can earn 4 times that money with about 6 other ways ingame? You know how?? camping too XD and zerging.
troves will help new people!! Thats all!!!
Oh this cant be serious.
8 x 140 items = 1120 items with those 8 characters you have - each worth at least 40 gold makes 44.8k gold. What is roughly 10 times more than I can currently make with doing writs - so why would I even want to do writs? but why would I want to do camping? - why would I even want to play this game, if it is not fun anymore.
Lol. Just compare time and profits of relogging in Wayrest or farming columbines in Hollow city with camping thse boxes. I didnt even mention IC sewers
Besides, crafting writs give gold tempers. kutas and surveys, as well as nirncrux.Edited by LadyNalcarya on March 8, 2016 4:54PMDro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
Edit: BTW, how much fun are your 50k a day, when you could have this in 50 minutes camping a trove?Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
Edit: BTW, how much fun are your 50k a day, when you could have this in 50 minutes camping a trove?
Errrm what? A day I mean logging and grinding for 30 minutes and then do real gaming things. If you grind in the real gold spots 24 hours you would get milloons.
I have about 15 millions and dont usually grind.
I liked doing writs, but it will be pretty much pointless to do them now - I can just go and empty a couple of troves and get more out of it. I have to restrain myself from doing that, because I think it is wrong and takes away from the fun in this game. I might just abandon what I like doing - and go for something else in the game, what is not related to money - really sad, because I like doing economy related stuff in games - but this is just not fun anymore.1 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Well thats another story. Writs were silly (to me) since the very beginning anyway.
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
Are you really reading what you are saying?
You know you can just sell 140 trove items a day?
Do you know that while you are wasting time by doing that you can earn 4 times that money with about 6 other ways ingame? You know how?? camping too XD and zerging.
troves will help new people!! Thats all!!!
Oh this cant be serious.
8 x 140 items = 1120 items with those 8 characters you have - each worth at least 40 gold makes 44.8k gold. What is roughly 10 times more than I can currently make with doing writs - so why would I even want to do writs? but why would I want to do camping? - why would I even want to play this game, if it is not fun anymore.
Lol. Just compare time and profits of relogging in Wayrest or farming columbines in Hollow city with camping thse boxes. I didnt even mention IC sewers
Besides, crafting writs give gold tempers. kutas and surveys, as well as nirncrux.
So what, you can just buy that stuff with enough money, no need to actually work for it - you see, too much money in the game is bad.1 -
driosketch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭They are very easy to spot, don't need to be locked picked, and even on the low side seem to provide better loot than treasure chests, and in some cases better than even lock boxes. I say buff the treasure chests and lock boxes.
Of course you are limited on the stolen loot by the fence limit, but still buff treasure chests to match.Main: Drio Azul ~ DC, Redguard, Healer/Magicka Templar ~ NA-PC
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well thats another story. Writs were silly (to me) since the very beginning anyway.
Yes, but writs are one of the things which with a new player who is not in a big trading guild can make some money. All other requires him/her to be in a trading guild and those do not cater for new players at all and some try to make new players into trading slaves as well. There are not that many opportunities to make money as a newbie - those troves are one, but they give too much, this will just spoil newbies and convert them into campers.Edited by Lysette on March 8, 2016 5:05PM0 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
Are you really reading what you are saying?
You know you can just sell 140 trove items a day?
Do you know that while you are wasting time by doing that you can earn 4 times that money with about 6 other ways ingame? You know how?? camping too XD and zerging.
troves will help new people!! Thats all!!!
Oh this cant be serious.
8 x 140 items = 1120 items with those 8 characters you have - each worth at least 40 gold makes 44.8k gold. What is roughly 10 times more than I can currently make with doing writs - so why would I even want to do writs? but why would I want to do camping? - why would I even want to play this game, if it is not fun anymore.
Lol. Just compare time and profits of relogging in Wayrest or farming columbines in Hollow city with camping thse boxes. I didnt even mention IC sewers
Besides, crafting writs give gold tempers. kutas and surveys, as well as nirncrux.
So what, you can just buy that stuff with enough money, no need to actually work for it - you see, too much money in the game is bad.
You actually would have to sit there doing nothing, for such a laughable reward. You wont get champion points, you wont get any experience for your char, and you wont have any fun. Dont you think it is a bit much? I wouldnt do it, I earn enough gold just by playing the game and having fun. And I'd recommend you to do it as well instead of bashing people who "get too much gold".
And this game's economy is problematic, but not because people have too much gold, but because there's not much tradeable goods and there's not enough gold sinks. And it wont become any better until those issues are solved.Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
Are you really reading what you are saying?
You know you can just sell 140 trove items a day?
Do you know that while you are wasting time by doing that you can earn 4 times that money with about 6 other ways ingame? You know how?? camping too XD and zerging.
troves will help new people!! Thats all!!!
Oh this cant be serious.
8 x 140 items = 1120 items with those 8 characters you have - each worth at least 40 gold makes 44.8k gold. What is roughly 10 times more than I can currently make with doing writs - so why would I even want to do writs? but why would I want to do camping? - why would I even want to play this game, if it is not fun anymore.
Lol. Just compare time and profits of relogging in Wayrest or farming columbines in Hollow city with camping thse boxes. I didnt even mention IC sewers
Besides, crafting writs give gold tempers. kutas and surveys, as well as nirncrux.
So what, you can just buy that stuff with enough money, no need to actually work for it - you see, too much money in the game is bad.
You actually would have to sit there doing nothing, for such a laughable reward. You wont get champion points, you wont get any experience for your char, and you wont have any fun. Dont you think it is a bit much? I wouldnt do it, I earn enough gold just by playing the game and having fun. And I'd recommend you to do it as well instead of bashing people who "get too much gold".
And this game's economy is problematic, but not because people have too much gold, but because there's not much tradeable goods and there's not enough gold sinks. And it wont become any better until those issues are solved.
I am fairly new, casual player and low level - I have a different perspective on this than you, because my options are by far more limited that yours. This is not comparable really.
Edit. you are right as far as the economy goes - there is a reason why EVE online has such a good and vibrant economy - CCP actually bothered to have a actual economist in their team to have an eye on it and suggest changes or measures to let it not get out of bounds. And it is awesome to do economy pvp in that game.Edited by Lysette on March 8, 2016 5:13PM0 -
houjo2000b16_ESO✭✭✭It's nice how, even if you don't have the dlc, you see the boxes. Unlike the first two dlc which you could ignore entirely, this one stays in your face and every time you see one it's like coming across a chest and hearing 'subscribe and you can see what's inside'.
I'm being honest, it's good advertising strategy, kudos to Zen for this one.
That said- yeah, you CAN get decent stuff if you find these boxes... you're far more likely to find it just stealing from the same spots you used to. This is a nice bonus for the TG dlc, but it's far from being game breaking as the OP seems to indicate.0 -
Brunoad✭✭✭I opened about 10-20 troves so far and have yet to get one that gave me 10 of blue, or above treasure. These are considered stolen and have to be sold to a fence, with whom there is a limit per day. Thus getting rich through these is not exactly the best option.1 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
Are you really reading what you are saying?
You know you can just sell 140 trove items a day?
Do you know that while you are wasting time by doing that you can earn 4 times that money with about 6 other ways ingame? You know how?? camping too XD and zerging.
troves will help new people!! Thats all!!!
Oh this cant be serious.
8 x 140 items = 1120 items with those 8 characters you have - each worth at least 40 gold makes 44.8k gold. What is roughly 10 times more than I can currently make with doing writs - so why would I even want to do writs? but why would I want to do camping? - why would I even want to play this game, if it is not fun anymore.
Lol. Just compare time and profits of relogging in Wayrest or farming columbines in Hollow city with camping thse boxes. I didnt even mention IC sewers
Besides, crafting writs give gold tempers. kutas and surveys, as well as nirncrux.
So what, you can just buy that stuff with enough money, no need to actually work for it - you see, too much money in the game is bad.
You actually would have to sit there doing nothing, for such a laughable reward. You wont get champion points, you wont get any experience for your char, and you wont have any fun. Dont you think it is a bit much? I wouldnt do it, I earn enough gold just by playing the game and having fun. And I'd recommend you to do it as well instead of bashing people who "get too much gold".
And this game's economy is problematic, but not because people have too much gold, but because there's not much tradeable goods and there's not enough gold sinks. And it wont become any better until those issues are solved.
I am fairly new, casual player and low level - I have a different perspective on this than you, because my options are by far more limited that yours. This is not comparable really.
Edit. you are right as far as the economy goes - there is a reason why EVE online has such a good and vibrant economy - CCP actually bothered to have a actual economist in their team to have an eye on it and suggest changes or measures to let it not get out of bounds. And it is awesome to do economy pvp in that game.
Well, eso economy is not about my point of view. And speaking about new players and casuals... Maybe this was actually needed? For high level player with millions of gold in their bank 6k is not a big deal, not even worth laundering (when I was going for "Black market mogul" achievemnt, I only picked green, blue and purple items, imo white items are not really worth it). But I often see people in Auridon who compalin about not being able to buy a mount or pay bounty, or sometimes even repair. Why cant those troves be an option for them?
That being said, I'd prefer them to be locked, to avoid bots.
Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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MikeB✭✭✭✭✭Currently on console there's no reason to open a single treasure chest in ESO, let a long go pickpocketing or stealing. I say horrah for a reason.0
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭KoshkaMurka wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »KoshkaMurka wrote: »Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.
Ok cool. Fight against troves respawn! Meanwhile play the game you are that upset to see desteoyes by troves too.
FIX TROVES. No need to fix the real gamebreaking problems.
Gonna grind IC and get my 50k a day. Bye.
this is actually a game breaking issue - you just don't see this yet - if one activity, which can be camped on top of it, is providing more income than any other, then more and more will focus on this activity and let go on the others, because those are no longer fun to do - too much gold gets into the system and an inflation is happening - this is a disaster actually.
Are you really reading what you are saying?
You know you can just sell 140 trove items a day?
Do you know that while you are wasting time by doing that you can earn 4 times that money with about 6 other ways ingame? You know how?? camping too XD and zerging.
troves will help new people!! Thats all!!!
Oh this cant be serious.
8 x 140 items = 1120 items with those 8 characters you have - each worth at least 40 gold makes 44.8k gold. What is roughly 10 times more than I can currently make with doing writs - so why would I even want to do writs? but why would I want to do camping? - why would I even want to play this game, if it is not fun anymore.
Lol. Just compare time and profits of relogging in Wayrest or farming columbines in Hollow city with camping thse boxes. I didnt even mention IC sewers
Besides, crafting writs give gold tempers. kutas and surveys, as well as nirncrux.
So what, you can just buy that stuff with enough money, no need to actually work for it - you see, too much money in the game is bad.
You actually would have to sit there doing nothing, for such a laughable reward. You wont get champion points, you wont get any experience for your char, and you wont have any fun. Dont you think it is a bit much? I wouldnt do it, I earn enough gold just by playing the game and having fun. And I'd recommend you to do it as well instead of bashing people who "get too much gold".
And this game's economy is problematic, but not because people have too much gold, but because there's not much tradeable goods and there's not enough gold sinks. And it wont become any better until those issues are solved.
I am fairly new, casual player and low level - I have a different perspective on this than you, because my options are by far more limited that yours. This is not comparable really.
Edit. you are right as far as the economy goes - there is a reason why EVE online has such a good and vibrant economy - CCP actually bothered to have a actual economist in their team to have an eye on it and suggest changes or measures to let it not get out of bounds. And it is awesome to do economy pvp in that game.
Well, eso economy is not about my point of view. And speaking about new players and casuals... Maybe this was actually needed? For high level player with millions of gold in their bank 6k is not a big deal, not even worth laundering (when I was going for "Black market mogul" achievemnt, I only picked green, blue and purple items, imo white items are not really worth it). But I often see people in Auridon who compalin about not being able to buy a mount or pay bounty, or sometimes even repair. Why cant those troves be an option for them?
That being said, I'd prefer them to be locked, to avoid bots.
In fact just the respawn timer would have to be fixed or a marker placed onto the player, that he cannot loot the same location again for some time. This would help with it and than I would be happy again - I just do not like campers, who exploit that.
"High level player with millions of gold in their bank" - now a happy camper with 8 chracters and low level can make about 1.2 million per month from those troves. Let just 10.000 people do that - then you have 12 billion gold more in the market - I call this an inflation.Edited by Lysette on March 8, 2016 5:29PM0