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New Thieves Trove provide too much loot?
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timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭So, they finally add something worth the effort of doing to the game and people are going to whine and get it made worthless. Why is it bad that opening troves is actually worth doing.
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »So, they finally add something worth the effort of doing to the game and people are going to whine and get it made worthless. Why is it bad that opening troves is actually worth doing.
You don't see the bigger picture - this will lead to an inflation.3 -
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Hope499✭✭✭✭If this is a joke thread...you need to lay the sarcasm on a bi thicker next time, cant tell if your joking.Tripped over my friends bra.....
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭i wonder how much you will like it, when prices will get up to be 10 or 100 times what they are now in guild stores, because everyone and his dog has so much gold, that it is worth nothing. Asset is what counts then, and not money.0 -
timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »So, they finally add something worth the effort of doing to the game and people are going to whine and get it made worthless. Why is it bad that opening troves is actually worth doing.
You don't see the bigger picture - this will lead to an inflation.
I don't care about inflation. I care about not feeling like I am wasting my time.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »timidobserver wrote: »So, they finally add something worth the effort of doing to the game and people are going to whine and get it made worthless. Why is it bad that opening troves is actually worth doing.
You don't see the bigger picture - this will lead to an inflation.
I don't care about inflation. I care about not feeling like I am wasting my time.
But you are wasting your time when inflation is getting a foot in the door - what is today worth 1000 gold you might need to buy in a week with 100,000 gold - what was it worth then, that you could make those 1000 golds faster than ever - you will have to spend as well much more than ever - harvesting asset is what you should do, not going for those gold troves, because asset will get more rare, when there is more money in the system and less people harvesting asset because they go for the gold.
Edit: there was a time in history - in the 20s - when people had to be paid their wages several times a day and given some time to quickly buy something with it, because the wage of the morning was not worth much in the afternoon and pretty much nothing the other day - that is what hyperinflation is like.Edited by Lysette on March 8, 2016 3:51PM1 -
zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭The troves represent terrible gameplay. Static locations, zero risk and short spawn times. So no, they shouldn't be overly rewarding.
The same is true of harvesting to some degree, but at least harvesting requires some effort to monetize the activity.Edited by zyk on March 8, 2016 3:52PM1 -
Master_Fluff✭✭✭✭I like the troves. Found 6 locations spread between two zones. I think I looted them 5 times each this morning. Respawn rate is lovely. Got some nice blue and purple V1 sets. And plenty shiny gold too.
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mistermutiny89✭✭✭✭✭timidobserver wrote: »So, they finally add something worth the effort of doing to the game and people are going to whine and get it made worthless. Why is it bad that opening troves is actually worth doing.
You don't see the bigger picture - this will lead to an inflation.
Thanks to monster sets being sold for gold there's going to be a large gold sink. If inflation were to happen it'd be months from now. That's the bigger picture.
At least let us console players enjoy the dlc how it was released for you. All your nerf calls just make the gameplay time to reward ratio as abysmal as it is today.Guild Leader : Defenders Of Miley
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Palidon✭✭✭✭✭
✭demonaffinity wrote: »Greetings!
So far, I've found 4 troves out in the open world. 2 of them provided a box which contained some items. 1 gave me 450g worth of items, and just now I got 10 dices, thats 1000g. I don't mind a nice find, especially gold wise, but doesn't this seem a bit too excessive? It could break the economy I think.
Edit: Also, I think its a shame the troves glow by default, instead of giving us a passive to work towards, that gives us that ability like with the crafting materials in open world.
What does everyone else think? Are the troves too good?
Jjust go play the game. Seems people like you complain about every little thing. Now its that the Troves are giving to much loot.
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RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭One of the worst topics ever. Dont matter what ZOS do...too much of this..ok lets nerf...too few of that...ok lets put more...*** HELL play the game and stop pretending this should beblike real life. ITS A GAME. Break the economy he says...damn....4 -
zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ulrik.igerupb16_ESO wrote: »I like the troves. Found 6 locations spread between two zones. I think I looted them 5 times each this morning. Respawn rate is lovely. Got some nice blue and purple V1 sets. And plenty shiny gold too.
How is this even remotely fun? Is this why you play games? To do this?1 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭One of the worst topics ever. Dont matter what ZOS do...too much of this..ok lets nerf...too few of that...ok lets put more...*** HELL play the game and stop pretending this should beblike real life. ITS A GAME. Break the economy he says...damn....
Well, maybe you have to experience a game with a broken economy first to see what it's evils are.0 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭One of the worst topics ever. Dont matter what ZOS do...too much of this..ok lets nerf...too few of that...ok lets put more...*** HELL play the game and stop pretending this should beblike real life. ITS A GAME. Break the economy he says...damn....
Well, maybe you have to experience a game with a broken economy first to see what it's evils are.
Well I played some of those and my fun was exactly the same. In fact that is happening since early access here. If you think troves are gonna break the economy...what troves will do is to help people that come to the game and feels isolated cause have no money even for a horse.
What breaks the economy is the zerg grinds in IC just to change tvs for mats and sell them in the same guild stores controled by the same 10 people. Now are troves the problem...pffEdited by RazielSR on March 8, 2016 4:06PM3 -
Anhedonie✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Enjoy while it lasts.Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.1 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭demonaffinity wrote: »Greetings!
So far, I've found 4 troves out in the open world. 2 of them provided a box which contained some items. 1 gave me 450g worth of items, and just now I got 10 dices, thats 1000g. I don't mind a nice find, especially gold wise, but doesn't this seem a bit too excessive? It could break the economy I think.
Edit: Also, I think its a shame the troves glow by default, instead of giving us a passive to work towards, that gives us that ability like with the crafting materials in open world.
What does everyone else think? Are the troves too good?
Jjust go play the game. Seems people like you complain about every little thing. Now its that the Troves are giving to much loot.
Not necessarily too much, but by far too fast. This leads to gold camping and if many do this - and they will - to inflation.1 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭ulrik.igerupb16_ESO wrote: »I like the troves. Found 6 locations spread between two zones. I think I looted them 5 times each this morning. Respawn rate is lovely. Got some nice blue and purple V1 sets. And plenty shiny gold too.
How is this even remotely fun? Is this why you play games? To do this?
Who are you to judge how a person should play a game?2 -
zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ulrik.igerupb16_ESO wrote: »I like the troves. Found 6 locations spread between two zones. I think I looted them 5 times each this morning. Respawn rate is lovely. Got some nice blue and purple V1 sets. And plenty shiny gold too.
How is this even remotely fun? Is this why you play games? To do this?
Who are you to judge how a person should play a game?
I am an actual gamer who enjoys actual games who is sick of people like you who have turned the genres I enjoy into rat simulators with pretty graphics.
Scurry on! Get your cheese! Quick - before that other guy does, while he's fighting!Edited by zyk on March 8, 2016 4:11PM3 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭ulrik.igerupb16_ESO wrote: »I like the troves. Found 6 locations spread between two zones. I think I looted them 5 times each this morning. Respawn rate is lovely. Got some nice blue and purple V1 sets. And plenty shiny gold too.
How is this even remotely fun? Is this why you play games? To do this?
Who are you to judge how a person should play a game?
I am an actual gamer who enjoys actual games who is sick of people like you who have turned the genres I enjoy into rat simulators with pretty graphics.
Then go and play other games with no people that you dislike.Im not that kind of people anyway,plus you clearly have a problem that no game will solve.0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.1 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Edit: to make this clearer - why would I even want to craft something, if I would just have to camp a trove and get 600 times that what I would get with crafting from just camping a trove?- This is killing the fun.Edited by Lysette on March 8, 2016 4:24PM1 -
RazielSR✭✭✭✭✭Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones creating the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...Edited by RazielSR on March 8, 2016 4:25PM1 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well you can turn it like you want, it cannot stay this way, because it would devalue pretty much any other activity in the game, with the purpose of acquiring gold. It simply takes the fun out of those - this is heavily imbalanced and has to change.
Ok I hope you can live until that happens. Sleep,eat,etc...
i am actually thinking of staying away from this game for some time, to not have to see the drama unfold.
Will be better,mainly if you are one of the ones crearing the drama just like the op.
Drama is the lag for example,and bugs or skills not working.
Troves...
Well, do not praise this - because I will not leave the forums - this issue has to get fixed - and it has to be made known.Edited by Lysette on March 8, 2016 4:26PM0 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Well, those items are stolen and there's a limit for fencing. I think they can just make the boxes locked to make things harder for botters, and that's it. Because farming stolen items is already possible, and it doesnt even require waiting - just relog, loot all containters, relog again...Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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