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Anyone else have a problem with the DX11 move?
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jamesharv2005ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭dimensional wrote: »
As I understand it doesnt matter what client you use as far as direct x goes.1 -
dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭Oh ok I wasn't sure if the two clients were accessing different DX versions. In fact I wonder if they could set it up like that? Would be worth looking into IMO.0 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »stewart.leslie76b16_ESO wrote: »stewart.leslie76b16_ESO wrote: »The snobbery on this thread..dimensional wrote: »Right, because updating your machine every 12 months is in everyones budget?
Also not hyperbole, DX11 GPU prevalence just passed the 30 percent mark in gamer PCs three months ago, that means 70 percent of gamers couldnt play ESO today.
You gonna pay for all those new computers bucko?
I can save $20 a month to be able to afford a new graphics card at the end of every 12 months. Maybe folks should stop going out to eat so much. If you can't put away at least 20 a month for savings, you have much worse problems than not being able to play a game.
Well if someone could afford to pay the mortgage maybe the world would not be suffering. Seriously, a lot of people got destroyed by that event and some are still trying to recover from it. All because you can, doesn't mean everyone can. I've played Devil's Advocate, I've even said that ZOS gave a reasonable reason for doing what they did. But coming on here saying I can do this, I can do that isn't helping. Wait till ZOS say "Hey we're going full steam with Win 10 and not support any other version of Window" then you'll have a massive uproar. There's been 64 bit CPUs for over 11 years, but only now are we seeing a 64 bit game client, don't see ZOS dropping 32 bit do you.
This event has taken away a fair portion of the player base. It's going to effect guild, your friends list, the amount of people available to run quests, trails and pledges.
Do you maybe know a way of circumventing the problem with the DX11? How do we go back to playing the 32 bit?
There isn't mate, I'm in exactly the same sinking boat as you, but I'm sitting right next to the leak as I'm on a laptop and 10,100 crowns that I can not spend. The only hope is a change of policy by ZOS but let's be honesty that isn't going to happen unless there is a severe drop in population.
It's a shame yes, maybe ZOS will make a call to Bethesda and come up with some way to compensate us for our lost crown but I doubt it.
Then,..I guess that's it.Until I can figure out hoe to get a new PC,which I cant.Mine cost me $1,300.00,and I'll never be able to go better than this one.
To upgrade someone told me that Id need a new OS,.motherboard,and more.
You should be able to just replace the video card unless its 10+ years old. Whats the specs?
This is the info I have:
Intel Dual core i7 CPU
930 at 2.80GHz
6.0 gigs ram
and an NVIDIA GeFORCE GTX 250,upgraded.
It's only 6 years old.0 -
dimensional✭✭✭✭✭
✭You can buy a card that will run this game and anything else with DX11 for less than $50 USD. Check out newegg.com4 -
dimensional wrote: »Oh ok I wasn't sure if the two clients were accessing different DX versions. In fact I wonder if they could set it up like that? Would be worth looking into IMO.
They could but it's if they want to put the resources into doing it. Depends on what the fallout from today is like.I, as a loyal member of the Foamy Cult, do solemnly swear to live a logical life free of stupidity, ignorance and all round jack assery. I shall do my best to enlighten those in need of Squirrelly Wisdom in hope of one day ridding the world of human idiocy. This I swear.0 -
WalkingLegacy✭✭✭✭✭
✭jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »stewart.leslie76b16_ESO wrote: »stewart.leslie76b16_ESO wrote: »The snobbery on this thread..dimensional wrote: »Right, because updating your machine every 12 months is in everyones budget?
Also not hyperbole, DX11 GPU prevalence just passed the 30 percent mark in gamer PCs three months ago, that means 70 percent of gamers couldnt play ESO today.
You gonna pay for all those new computers bucko?
I can save $20 a month to be able to afford a new graphics card at the end of every 12 months. Maybe folks should stop going out to eat so much. If you can't put away at least 20 a month for savings, you have much worse problems than not being able to play a game.
Well if someone could afford to pay the mortgage maybe the world would not be suffering. Seriously, a lot of people got destroyed by that event and some are still trying to recover from it. All because you can, doesn't mean everyone can. I've played Devil's Advocate, I've even said that ZOS gave a reasonable reason for doing what they did. But coming on here saying I can do this, I can do that isn't helping. Wait till ZOS say "Hey we're going full steam with Win 10 and not support any other version of Window" then you'll have a massive uproar. There's been 64 bit CPUs for over 11 years, but only now are we seeing a 64 bit game client, don't see ZOS dropping 32 bit do you.
This event has taken away a fair portion of the player base. It's going to effect guild, your friends list, the amount of people available to run quests, trails and pledges.
Do you maybe know a way of circumventing the problem with the DX11? How do we go back to playing the 32 bit?
There isn't mate, I'm in exactly the same sinking boat as you, but I'm sitting right next to the leak as I'm on a laptop and 10,100 crowns that I can not spend. The only hope is a change of policy by ZOS but let's be honesty that isn't going to happen unless there is a severe drop in population.
It's a shame yes, maybe ZOS will make a call to Bethesda and come up with some way to compensate us for our lost crown but I doubt it.
Then,..I guess that's it.Until I can figure out hoe to get a new PC,which I cant.Mine cost me $1,300.00,and I'll never be able to go better than this one.
To upgrade someone told me that Id need a new OS,.motherboard,and more.
You should be able to just replace the video card unless its 10+ years old. Whats the specs?
This is the info I have:
Intel Dual core i7 CPU
930 at 2.80GHz
6.0 gigs ram
and an NVIDIA GeFORCE GTX 250,upgraded.
It's only 6 years old.
You can upgrade your graphics card to anything you want. I suggest at least a GTX970 or R9 380X.
Edit @Volkodav as long as your PSU has the correct power pinsEdited by WalkingLegacy on March 7, 2016 11:13PM2 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭WalkingLegacy wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »stewart.leslie76b16_ESO wrote: »stewart.leslie76b16_ESO wrote: »The snobbery on this thread..dimensional wrote: »Right, because updating your machine every 12 months is in everyones budget?
Also not hyperbole, DX11 GPU prevalence just passed the 30 percent mark in gamer PCs three months ago, that means 70 percent of gamers couldnt play ESO today.
You gonna pay for all those new computers bucko?
I can save $20 a month to be able to afford a new graphics card at the end of every 12 months. Maybe folks should stop going out to eat so much. If you can't put away at least 20 a month for savings, you have much worse problems than not being able to play a game.
Well if someone could afford to pay the mortgage maybe the world would not be suffering. Seriously, a lot of people got destroyed by that event and some are still trying to recover from it. All because you can, doesn't mean everyone can. I've played Devil's Advocate, I've even said that ZOS gave a reasonable reason for doing what they did. But coming on here saying I can do this, I can do that isn't helping. Wait till ZOS say "Hey we're going full steam with Win 10 and not support any other version of Window" then you'll have a massive uproar. There's been 64 bit CPUs for over 11 years, but only now are we seeing a 64 bit game client, don't see ZOS dropping 32 bit do you.
This event has taken away a fair portion of the player base. It's going to effect guild, your friends list, the amount of people available to run quests, trails and pledges.
Do you maybe know a way of circumventing the problem with the DX11? How do we go back to playing the 32 bit?
There isn't mate, I'm in exactly the same sinking boat as you, but I'm sitting right next to the leak as I'm on a laptop and 10,100 crowns that I can not spend. The only hope is a change of policy by ZOS but let's be honesty that isn't going to happen unless there is a severe drop in population.
It's a shame yes, maybe ZOS will make a call to Bethesda and come up with some way to compensate us for our lost crown but I doubt it.
Then,..I guess that's it.Until I can figure out hoe to get a new PC,which I cant.Mine cost me $1,300.00,and I'll never be able to go better than this one.
To upgrade someone told me that Id need a new OS,.motherboard,and more.
You should be able to just replace the video card unless its 10+ years old. Whats the specs?
This is the info I have:
Intel Dual core i7 CPU
930 at 2.80GHz
6.0 gigs ram
and an NVIDIA GeFORCE GTX 250,upgraded.
It's only 6 years old.
You can upgrade your graphics card to anything you want. I suggest at least a GTX970 or R9 380X.
I am working on it.I'll have to wait till next month though. I purchased something for my friend,which set me back,not realizing I'd need the funds.I'll survive till next month.Till then,..I'll post here and ask how its all going. XD0 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭dimensional wrote: »You can buy a card that will run this game and anything else with DX11 for less than $50 USD. Check out newegg.com
Thanks. I will be checking newegg.0 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I guess the upgrade of my video card was coming.I just didnt expect it to hit this fast. XD0 -
ozmorgudduth✭✭✭Napoleonicus wrote: »The part I don't quite get is... why should I not have access to the things I bought and paid for? They shoulod stillwork fine. Not having access to TG I'm fine with, but I still paid for the rest.
The problem I have is: the performance degraded since I have bought the game, I have changed my GFX card from GTX 680 to GTX 980 and my CPU from i5 to i7 and I can hardly go over 60 FPS now, I'm on a 144Hz monitor for over 2 years and I have been able to run games at his FPS since I got this monitor, this code is a joke... The longer this game is on the market the worse it runs.?.?.? I love ESO I just love ESO, but this is too much, I have to say enough, when it is enough, this is the point where I say: no more. You get no more of my money, ever, EVER, no matter what - **** YOU ZOS, you ar a joke.4 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Thevampirenight wrote: »I do think they should keep the old requirements for playing plus upgrading they should not force you to buy a new machine and this is possibly a mistake and maybe the dx11 is the main cause of peoples fps problems. But yeah they need to allow everyone the chance to play not just those that have upgraded machines.
ZOS stated that DX9 was holding the game back from where they wanted to take the game in the future, it was not capable of rendering the graphics they want to bring to the game. So what you're saying is that players shouldn't get improvements and a better gaming experience because we should remain beholden to graphics capability from 14 years ago. I say HECK NO to that idea!CP: 2078 ** ESO+ 2025 Content Pass ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
~~Started Playing: May 2015 | Stopped Playing: July 2025~~5 -
Ignotus✭✭✭
I bought my DX11 card in May 2012 (card launched in 9/2011) for $100 after rebate brand new from Tiger Direct. It's a GTX 460 v2. It's pretty outdated now, but it still runs ESO. The thing that holds me back the most in ESO is my slow CPU. I plan to rebuild my entire system this year. I'm just pointing out that they aren't "ultra expensive" and they do not require 800+ watt power supplies. I ran my card on a 500w supply until about 6 months ago. That 500w PSU was an "ultra" cheap "Ultra" brand PSU that was FREE after rebate. LOLMost gamers are still using 10.1 DX cards, DX11 cards are ultra expensive and most require 800+ watt power supplies.
I bought my card, a GTX 460 v2, in May 2012 and it's DX11 compatible and runs ESO right now after the update. I don't know why you think you would have to have a GTX 700 or better.Even if you bought a brand spanking new gaming rig in mid 2013 (just under 3 years ago) you only have a 50/50 shot of having a DX11 card (GTX 700 and Radeon HD 7700 or better)
I don't know about this "native" support that you are referring to, but I'm playing ESO right now, using the 64 bit client, and I'm doing it on my GTX 460 v2 released in 2011. Idk if it's "native", but the game runs fine post-update.(ie: win 7 came with DX11 in 2010, but video cards that supported it natively without relying on DX10.1 codecs didnt come out until 2013 Q4 with the GTX 680)0 -
Thevampirenight wrote: »I do think they should keep the old requirements for playing plus upgrading they should not force you to buy a new machine and this is possibly a mistake and maybe the dx11 is the main cause of peoples fps problems. But yeah they need to allow everyone the chance to play not just those that have upgraded machines.
ZOS stated that DX9 was holding the game back from where they wanted to take the game in the future, it was not capable of rendering the graphics they want to bring to the game. So what you're saying is that players shouldn't get improvements and a better gaming experience because we should remain beholden to graphics capability from 14 years ago. I say HECK NO to that idea!
You know what, if ZOS was so confident in DX11 only, why did they remove a poll asking if you could play after the change within minutes of it going up?
That's right, they don't want you to know exactly the damage this has caused. Any argument that is said about dropping DX9 can be said about dropping 32bit client. You're right ZOS saying that DX11 is the way forward for them, now only time will tell if they were right or not. But I would start planning future proofing your machine now just in case there's another major change in 2 years time.I, as a loyal member of the Foamy Cult, do solemnly swear to live a logical life free of stupidity, ignorance and all round jack assery. I shall do my best to enlighten those in need of Squirrelly Wisdom in hope of one day ridding the world of human idiocy. This I swear.4 -
frethopper✭✭✭The level of ignorance on display in this thread is beyond belief frankly. Sorry, but it really is. Every PC gamer understands that technology rolls forward. To talk about that here is just entirely missing the point. On Sunday my PC will run ESO on the PTS perfectly. Less than 24 hours later I am told that same machine is no longer compatible with the game. This is not an issue of my hardware. If my hardware had been incapable of running the game on the PTS last month then I would have been out to buy a new graphics card by now. What this really amounts to is an incidence of bad communication, and bad customer service. For the record; the game is good, and the company is good. But big lessons need to be learned here, and my guess is they will be when accountants report back.3 -
Ignotus✭✭✭Also, if you look up the system requirements in the support area, it says that DX11 was a minimum requirement since October, so 5 months ago at least.Updated 10/12/2015
PC Minimum System Requirements**:- Operating System: Windows 7 32-bit
- Processor: Intel i3 or AMD 3870 generation processors or higher
- System RAM: 3GB
- Hard Disk Space: 85GB free HDD space
- GPU: Direct X 11.0 compliant video card with 1GB RAM (NVidia GeForce 460 or AMD Radeon 6850)
- Sound: DirectX compatible sound card
- Internet: Internet Broadband Connection*
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howardeb17_ESO2✭✭✭This game no longer works in Wine
Action stations, action stations. Set condition one throughout the ship. This is not a drill.1 -
Also, if you look up the system requirements in the support area, it says that DX11 was a minimum requirement since October, so 5 months ago at least.Updated 10/12/2015
PC Minimum System Requirements**:- Operating System: Windows 7 32-bit
- Processor: Intel i3 or AMD 3870 generation processors or higher
- System RAM: 3GB
- Hard Disk Space: 85GB free HDD space
- GPU: Direct X 11.0 compliant video card with 1GB RAM (NVidia GeForce 460 or AMD Radeon 6850)
- Sound: DirectX compatible sound card
- Internet: Internet Broadband Connection*
So you check systems requirement everyday just to check if they go up? What about those that could play happily in September? What about those that played happily since launch?
The chances are you went specifically to that page within the last 24 hours didn't you.
End of the day a lot of broken hearts were caused yesterday, so here's something to lighten the mood...
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Ignotus✭✭✭
I went there about 5 minutes before I posted, but I read about the requirements going up to DX11 over a month ago. I wasn't concerned because I knew that the video card that cost me $100 four years ago was DX11 compliant.stewart.leslie76b16_ESO wrote: »The chances are you went specifically to that page within the last 24 hours didn't you.0 -
Meanma✭✭✭and from what I am seeing on these forums today, and from what i know of hardware myself, GTX 700+ and Radeon HD7700+ are now min sysreq for this game, which is extreme high end
Just wanted to jump in with a personal example and mention that the requirements probably aren't so strict. I have a Radeon HD5670 and 4GB RAM. Tried out the game yesterday before the EU servers were taken offline again and everything worked fine with the exception of some FPS loss on the 32bit client but everyone is getting that. On the other hand, couldn't launch the 64bit one. Keep getting (0xc000007b) error even though my Windows 10 is 64bit. So that's somewhat baffling.
That being said, it's true that most people don't build their own computer and are stuck with whatever presets stores are selling. Presets that are often loaded with soon-to-be-outdated hardware for bigger profit because the naive customer won't notice until one or two years down the line that they have been had. I'm lucky that I have a relative who is well-versed in these things. They built my PC from scratch several years ago and selected components that were affordable but would hold out for a long time, saving a lot of money and headache. Not everyone is so lucky.
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It's only 6 years old.
Only "6" years old?
Theres yer problem.
Thats nearly the equivalent to 1/16th the power available from computers on the market today.
At the very least, one should replace their hardware every 36 months tops.
The cost will be relatively the same, and the performance will be nearly tripled.
It will cost about $1400-1800, but thats what it has always cost. Save yer cash and be ready to trade in yer old for the new, or lag behind and suffer.
My current beast is already at its mid-life; being 1.2 years old.
Its a 7th generation Asus Republic of Gamers, and my first was a 3rd generation.
By 2018, I will replace it with a 12th generation equivalent, assuming Asus continues the brand and remains on the market.
Given the specs I have now, theres not much I can imagine doing with 64GB of RAM, but thats what I said about 32GB when I got it, and I use 18-20GB on a daily basis.
The 32bit ESO client can easily gulp 2+GB itself, so how you folk are managing on a measly 6-8GB is beyond me.
Computers are NOT cars. Theyre not intended to, nor can they be practically feasible for a decade or more.
Theyre obsolete within 3-4 years, and thats presuming you buy state of the art.
If you buy a cheap piece of junk, it was actually obsolete before you bought it.
Granted, I dont see the need for DX11 flare; the game was already gorgeous by itself with DX10, but even DX11 is obsolete, as the next generation DX12 is was released on July 29, 2015.
Tech moves fast. Gotta keep up with it or get left behind.
Edited by OmniDo on March 8, 2016 10:42AM4 -
Tillalarrien✭✭✭I understand the progression of technology and all that. I understand that right now my computer cant handle minimal requirements. But so was before and I was able to play. Including PTS - one of the resons I played PTS is to see if game is still working for me.
Its only after live patch that im crashing.
So yeah, not blaming anyone here but atm im getting crashes on launch, so im guessing no game for me till i get around to upgrading gpu. If thats the case id rather it crashed on PTS when the v2.3.0 (according to patch notes dX11 change was included in it) testing started so id have a month to upgrade
Edited by Tillalarrien on March 8, 2016 10:56AMValkynaz of the Daedric Order2 -
Cherryblossom✭✭✭✭✭
✭Napoleonicus wrote: »While I understand why it is being done, there is something a bit wrong about this.
I've been a player since the beta. I have bought the limited boxed Imperial edition, Imperial City DLC, Orsinium DLC, items from the crown store, and very recently, even the crowns to buy the Thieves Guild DLC. I was ready and waiting... but now I can't even play the things I DID pay for, and I did invest quite a bit...
Can I make a suggestion that you check your drivers for your GPU, I find it hard to believe your card can't run DX11!
I don't think a computer pre- DX11 could run the game so I have to believe your computer can run DX11 you just have an out of date driver.0 -
It's only 6 years old.
Only "6" years old?
Theres yer problem.
Thats nearly the equivalent to 1/16th the power available from computers on the market today.
At the very least, one should replace their hardware every 36 months tops.
The cost will be relatively the same, and the performance will be nearly tripled.
It will cost about $1400-1800, but thats what it has always cost. Save yer cash and be ready to trade in yer old for the new, or lag behind and suffer.
My current beast is already at its mid-life; being 1.2 years old.
Its a 7th generation Asus Republic of Gamers, and my first was a 3rd generation.
By 2018, I will replace it with a 12th generation equivalent, assuming Asus continues the brand and remains on the market.
Given the specs I have now, theres not much I can imagine doing with 64GB of RAM, but thats what I said about 32GB when I got it, and I use 18-20GB on a daily basis.
The 32bit ESO client can easily gulp 2+GB itself, so how you folk are managing on a measly 6-8GB is beyond me.
Computers are NOT cars. Theyre not intended to, nor can they be practically feasible for a decade or more.
Theyre obsolete within 3-4 years, and thats presuming you buy state of the art.
If you buy a cheap piece of junk, it was actually obsolete before you bought it.
Granted, I dont see the need for DX11 flare; the game was already gorgeous by itself with DX10, but even DX11 is obsolete, as the next generation DX12 is was released on July 29, 2015.
Tech moves fast. Gotta keep up with it or get left behind.
Yes tech does move fast and that's why most applications and games are still wrote in 32 bit... Which has been out far longer then DX9. Also this game ran in either DX9 or DX11, never in DX10, so... It must be great living with Bono in his Ivory Tower.
I also love the way money is being mentioned here all the time, I think it's about time this thread has it's own soundtrack...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULeDlxa3gyc
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Sneaky-Snurr✭✭✭✭✭@Napoleonicus
I don't have a problem with it, OP. I actually welcome the change with open arms.
Though now I can't play the TG update since my GTX 580m SLI cards are frieedd and now I only depend on Intel HD Graphics 3000, which unfortunately, does not support DirectX v11 LOL.
I suppose it'll be a few more months before I get my hands on a new set of GPU(s) so farewell ESO for now. *Heartbreak*The Order of the Shadows: Nightmare-
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Rylana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Also, if you look up the system requirements in the support area, it says that DX11 was a minimum requirement since October, so 5 months ago at least.Updated 10/12/2015
PC Minimum System Requirements**:- Operating System: Windows 7 32-bit
- Processor: Intel i3 or AMD 3870 generation processors or higher
- System RAM: 3GB
- Hard Disk Space: 85GB free HDD space
- GPU: Direct X 11.0 compliant video card with 1GB RAM (NVidia GeForce 460 or AMD Radeon 6850)
- Sound: DirectX compatible sound card
- Internet: Internet Broadband Connection*
The funniest part about those minimum reqs (460 and 6850) is that the Nvidia 460 is the first DX11 nvidia card, and had a host of issues under the 11.0 release, it wasnt until 11.1 that they were fully compatible. Many driver issues.
The 6850 is actually comparable to GTX 580, almost twice as powerful as a GTX460. You can actually make minimum reqs with radeon in the 5000 series, as far back as the HD 5450 (though you probably couldnt even get frames above single digits with that card on lowest settings)
But a DX11 compliant card that can run ESO well? GTX 700+ or Radeon 7700+ or go home. There are better running non compliant cards that performed better in benchmarks all the way through the 200 300 and 400 series than a lot of the 500 and 600 series did. (hell a GT 240 DDR5 running at 550 mhz could run this game at 30+ FPS, and that was a DX 10.1 card, i know because I used to have one in my old machine before I got this one a couple months after ESO launched)
That was my whole point. DX11 compliance =/= good performance, at all. The drivers were a mess back then. It took Nvidia 3-4 years to get it right.Edited by Rylana on March 8, 2016 12:25PM@rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
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sadownik✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not informing clients in any possible way (including mail) that they must check their gear if they will be able to play the game after update is a clear sign of terrible management skills on Z. side and thats it. All white knights wont change that fact.
I see so many times in messages from most white knights of Zenimax Order, that polls here and complains on forums dont matter because only very small percent of players comes to forums. Yet when it comes to such important fact as not allowing clients to use product they bought the information here and there on that forum, not even a sticky concerning that issue is more than enough. Despicable behavior on Z. side and despicable behavior from rabid white knights.5 -
Rylana✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Here is an extreme example of why DX11 compliance does not necessarily mean its a better card.
The GTX 295, this card is a legend.
DX 10.1 (yes its not DX11 compliant).
Benchmarks as fast (or faster) as a GTX 480, 570, 660, and can even hang in there with some of the 700 series.
Benchmarks as fast (or faster) as a Radeon 6970, 7850, R9 265 and can hang in there with the 7870
The difference? Only the 295 is not DX11 compliant. The 295 can no longer run ESO, even tho with the exception of the 7870 actually benchmarks higher than every single card listed here, and was manufactured in 2009, 2-4 years before any of those other cards.
*shrug* All you guys applauding "progress" are a bit misinformed. Some of the best GFX cards are older models. The 200 series was AMAZING for performance in general. Compare that with the Radeon 5450 or GT430 that came out 2 years later, and tell me which card is better (hint, the 295 is more than five times as powerful as both, and is a step down in dx compliance XD )Edited by Rylana on March 8, 2016 1:12PM@rylanadionysis == Closed Beta Tester October 2013 == Retired October 2016 == Uninstalled @ One Tamriel Release == Inactive Indefinitely
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✭lol @ this thread. Don't stop!Wake up, we're here. Why are you shaking? Are you ok? Wake up...0 -
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✭dimensional wrote: »You can buy a card that will run this game and anything else with DX11 for less than $50 USD. Check out newegg.com
Thanks. I will be checking newegg.
you may want to use pcpartpicker.com, it pools prices from multiple sources, including newegg.
ESO is not a very demanding game, anything at or above GTX960 and R9 280 would give you good fps at 1080p+high settings.0