Where is the best place to murder npcs?

AlnilamE · March 2016

Daedgaming wrote: »

since I am getting a lot more love on this post I am going to post my suggestions to the dev team here as well. Check it out guys!
1. There is no outlaws hideout in Coldharbor, I understand lore wise and common sense wise for this however it is extremely annoying having to travel to several different locations just to get my daily selling done, both legal and illegal.
2. You cannot access your guild bank from the moneylenders aka bankers in the outlaw hideouts. This is extremely irritating. I all ready have to deal with the fact that I cannot have more then 2k gold on me at all times simply because if I make a mistake and a guard kills me I then lose all of the money currently on me (I lost 190k a few days ago while afk in stealth, my fault for being in the middle of where guards walk but still).
3. There are no titles, no infamous rewards, nothing for those of us who live outside the law. At the very least I would of loved having bounty hunters come after me, Whether they be npc or player wouldn't matter to me.
4. Guards should not be invincible and here is why. First off it makes no sense lore wise obviously. Secondly, it makes no sense game wise or questing wise for then one has to think "wow one guard could of done everything I did while questing in game and not taken a single damage point." Lastly, as someone who is going to always have an extremely high bounty, it really grinds my gears when I am killed by something I can only run from. I wouldn't mind there being more guards added IF WE COULD JUST KILL THEM!
5. I am aware that the Thieves guild is coming out soon and that city will essentially be the headquarters for evil doers everywhere... But only if there are no guards right? Anyway if it is lawless someone please tell me! Otherwise I would love a major city where I could go safely that is solely meant for people with bounty's, especially a place where I could get my pledge quests without fear!
6. There needs to be some kind of health bar or visible red mark X or something for guards in the game. It is sort of hard to track everyone and when you have a bounty as high as I do you need to be careful especially when traversing the major cities (back streets obviously)

Now does this keep me from killing? Of course not I kill for pleasure, but I would love to get more out of it then just a steady 20k on average sale from all of the stolen items from the looted corpses at my feet

The long and short of it is that being an outlaw should not be convenient. The only reason you can even access your bank in the refuge is that people needed to be able to withdraw more gold if they wanted to pay their bounty and didn't have cash on them.

I mean, you are having enough fun as it is, are you not? :-P

Mettaricana · March 2016

Barr dans den in ad millions to kill no guards

kalimar44 · March 2016

Not into this kind of gameplay yet. But what happens if you sold all of your stolen loot before any guards catch you,and your bounty was at let's say 100k. Then you just let the guards kill you. Would that clear your bounty,and you keep the cash from the loot?

UrQuan · March 2016

kalimar44 wrote: »

Not into this kind of gameplay yet. But what happens if you sold all of your stolen loot before any guards catch you,and your bounty was at let's say 100k. Then you just let the guards kill you. Would that clear your bounty,and you keep the cash from the loot?

No. However much gold you have on you they'll take and apply to your bounty, but the rest of your bounty will still be there. So if you've got a 100K bounty and only 1K gold on you when they kill you, then you'll be down to a 99K bounty.

kalimar44 · March 2016

UrQuan wrote: »

kalimar44 wrote: »

Not into this kind of gameplay yet. But what happens if you sold all of your stolen loot before any guards catch you,and your bounty was at let's say 100k. Then you just let the guards kill you. Would that clear your bounty,and you keep the cash from the loot?

No. However much gold you have on you they'll take and apply to your bounty, but the rest of your bounty will still be there. So if you've got a 100K bounty and only 1K gold on you when they kill you, then you'll be down to a 99K bounty.

This makes sense. If it was the way I mention we would all be mass murderers ,lol.

Runs · March 2016

Wolfenbelle wrote: »

Ackwalan wrote: »

Thormar in Reapers March. Zero guards and tons of easy pickens.

Lots of NPCs at Thormar, but none of them can be killed by players.

Yeah, people ruined that spot by talking about it. Not that I care about the murdering people, but last I went there you couldn't even steal from them. Kind of takes away from the name "Five Finger Dance." I wouldn't be surprised if any spot listed in this thread got the same treatment.

Lucius_Aelius · March 2016

I agree that it's stupid and infuriating to have Guards be invincible, too many times I was in a building and couldn't leave because I couldn't get a Guard off my ass and they kill me (bigger buildings with upper floors and balconies I can jump down aren't a problem, but if I have no room to kite then I can't use the door in time). It's not a problem when I'm outside but getting stuck inside a building pitched against a Guard that can't die is not even remotely fun or fair. Let all guards be V16 but not be invulnerable, and not be too tough while also not being pushovers.

ContraTempo · March 2016

It would be convenient to have a refuge you could fast travel to like you can some dungeons

Daedgaming · March 2016

kalimar44 wrote: »

Not into this kind of gameplay yet. But what happens if you sold all of your stolen loot before any guards catch you,and your bounty was at let's say 100k. Then you just let the guards kill you. Would that clear your bounty,and you keep the cash from the loot?

My bounty is 4.8 million lol. Whatever I have on me at the time they then take leaving me with nothing until the bounty is zero

Daedgaming · March 2016

Lucius_Aelius wrote: »

I agree that it's stupid and infuriating to have Guards be invincible, too many times I was in a building and couldn't leave because I couldn't get a Guard off my ass and they kill me (bigger buildings with upper floors and balconies I can jump down aren't a problem, but if I have no room to kite then I can't use the door in time). It's not a problem when I'm outside but getting stuck inside a building pitched against a Guard that can't die is not even remotely fun or fair. Let all guards be V16 but not be invulnerable, and not be too tough while also not being pushovers.

I entirely agree yet they have to do more then just that. If they made all of the guards v16 thats great and all but then you would get "ganking" parties of murder guilds aka this guy rite har who kill everything that can be killed in this game. People like me would then go around killing and no one could stop us, that is why they need an enforcer system. Here is what I would personally do. I would have bounty hunter npc's that are not invincible but do high amounts of damage and have the same resistances as giants or trolls. Essentially they would be dungeon bosses that hunt you down when you reach a certain bounty and if you then kill them your bounty will sky rocket. The higher the bounty the stronger the bounty hunters, of course encountering a bounty hunter would be rare. Yet I would also introduce a system where you can then get really good gear from them or something that makes killing and stealing worth while. Still though these are just the ravings of a mad man laughing and dancing in a sea of blood. What I do know is this... There needs to be some system in place. The current one is lacking, yet still enjoyable from a money making perspective. I am making more money doing what I do then most people make in a single day.

SymbioteKing26 · March 2016

Yeah it drives me wild that for some reason they made city guards GODMODE. What the heck

Daedgaming · March 2016

SymbioteKing26 wrote: »

Yeah it drives me wild that for some reason they made city guards GODMODE. What the heck

Well hopefully they add a better system in the next up coming months. Thieves guild will add a whole new aspect to law and order and crime into the game unseen before so I am killing and stealing as much as I can right now just in case it becomes harder to do both once the patch hits.