Rune_Relic wrote: »

Ourorboros wrote: »

Autolycus wrote: »

Edziu wrote: »

for me thisd raising cap is to low....get cap cp after moth from orsinium released, now i have 533 cp (32 after cap need 2x more xp per 1 cp) so until dlc be launchend then i have still capped cp, and always before release next dlc I will have always CP above cap, without using any exp pots, with some breaks in week in the game, just with slow lvling I will have always aboce CP cap..

I'm pve/pvp player and dont have always desire to play ESO without target ( more CP with more efficiency in pve) and then just take break for moths also....because it be boring for me.

pvp almost nonstop identical, zergs and zergs, in pve only daily dung with 1 chance per month to get good monster shouder/helm this my sick luck.

now when I getting next CP above cap...it is more and more borring, getting experience, getting more CP whose i cant use it, such time wasted to getting this exp...2x more per CP and cant use it, in these 4 moths playing with nonstop cap i will get again more than 51 cp, so dlc just be released i will have still cap and some cp to next cap BORING without any efficiency after playing 3 moths here and getting 2x more needed exp than is normally needed

To some extent, you are correct. You have a few more points than I do (currently around 510, don't remember exactly) but we are in the same boat - you and I will pretty much be at the CP cap for the remainder of ESO's lifespan (or for as long as we continue to play).

That being said, If they raise the cap by 100 points, it still really doesn't matter. You're going to hit the cap long before the next quarter mark and they raise the cap again. The only way you won't constantly be at the cap is if the cap is raised by a significant amount: 150, 200, etc. At this point you're going to be grinding out the CP to hit the cap before the next Q, and then you're going to be furthering the gap between you and the newer and more casual players. The point of the cap is to limit this discrepancy so that newer players have some chance to catch up.

For players like us, who are now basically going to be at the cap indefinitely, the focus should be on content.

Why should newer players be competitive with established players? It has no impact for questing, and little impact for other content. Dungeons and new DLC scale, and PVP scales. I'm new to PVP. Should I be able to get more AP than someone who has done PVP since game release? There is already a catchup in place for CP. Why should those who put more time into the game be penalized because they play more than casuals? It seems to me that whiners and misconception are ruining this game for those who play more, and for no good reason other than perception of imbalance.

Because you are under the misconception that getting more power by playing longer means you are a more skilled player.
If you are a more skilled player.....you wont need any bonuses to compete.
The only argument I see here is..I have been here longer or play longer so I should get an automatic Iwin button.
If anything more experienced players should receive a handicap....but that would remove skill from the game and make it no better a solution than the one you espouse here.

Lil_Willie wrote: »

Whats this CP that you speak of?

Assuming your're new and not being sarcastic, it's a system that allows further skill and resource development that is account wide. Currently, you must be veteran rank to earn Champion points. The system is slated to replace the current veteran rank system in the near future. Any character at level 50 or higher earns CP that all characters, even non-vet, can use in the assorted Champion constellation branches.

@Stubie You get 400K of enlightment experience every day. The first 50-100 CP are really cheap in xp price so with enlightenment, you'll gain 30-40 per vet level right off the bat.

Destruent wrote: »

edit: forgot to add...Those with high CP usually have everything ingame done already a thousand times, so there is not that much left to do. Gaining CP was one of those things left, but they killed it now...

Pretty true, yeah. I would suggest that future content is what we have left to do. Just one guy's opinion, but I'd rather have a trial, new dungeons, or a new pvp zone (to name a few), rather than running the same content with just more CP to earn.

Rosveen wrote: »

The Champion System was envisioned as continuous progression, but now active players - those who ZOS should want to motivate to keep playing - will permanently stay around or above the CP cap. Is gear-grinding going to be the only real progression?

That's how I see it, too. I'm one of those players who is basically going to remain at (or very close to) the cap for the foreseeable future of this game, but it doesn't bother me so much. I truly hope that progression is biased towards gear and not CP.

The way I see it, the further we climb up the CP ladder, the less beneficial it really is. Anybody who is trying to maximize the value they get from their CP is going to diversify it into the most important stars first, and may forego getting that 100th point into one star (which is a 0.01% increase) for that other star (which is between 0.01% - 1% increase).

Eventually, we reach a point where each additional CP is just a means to branch out from our main spec. This is what I've already done, as my main is a primary tank, but also has very effective dps and heal specs. Please note, I'm not claiming his off-specs are optimal. With more CP, those off-specs will be more optimized, and this is where I see the benefit of CP.

With or without CP, my Maelstrom weapon is a major step towards character progression. It increased my damage substantially on one of my dps builds. As I earn more weapons & armor, I expect my character to get much better, and the incremental step up from gear far outweighs what I get per-point of CP already. As time goes on, this becomes a more pronounced truth.

Guys please forget the issue of if we need/ shoulder ever have 3600 CP,

The main issue here is 51 point enough,

Will 17 points into each tree every few months mean a thing? Due to diminishing returns etc will it make any difference atall?

Brrrofski wrote: »

Way too low. You can easilly earn like 2 CP a day by doing pledges and then pvp for a few hours.

I suspect most players don't play for a few hours each day, and instead there are a whole lot of weekend warriors. Certainly the game population goes up significantly on weekends and holidays.

Too low.

This is all about creating content for the SAME level of players and keeping new players and old at the same level.

Sucks that there is no incentive for those of us who either have played since the first day or play a lot.

The game is catering to the casual player.

IMO the CP are way to easy to earn. I only play every second day for about 3 hours since half a year (mostly pvp) and have about 280 CP.

A problem solver would be to totally calculate the CPs new. But this time make them 2 times more expensive.
Look at the ExP someone got and calculate the new CPs (which should be at least half the number everyone has now).
This would also recalculate the CPs for players that earned them for 400k.
Nobody would be on the cap no more.
Would that be fair, or am i missing something?

Zenimax said the average player should get 1.5 cp a day, which is very agreeable.

1.5 CP per day x 90 days = 135cp a quarter.

ZOS already answered itself.

l3alls wrote: »

Zenimax said the average player should get 1.5 cp a day, which is very agreeable.

1.5 CP per day x 90 days = 135cp a quarter.

ZOS already answered itself.

Most people dont play video games everyday if you are an adult.

I don't think anyone should ever be able to get 3600 CP. Choices should matter, and one should have to give up some higher-tiered abilities if they choose others. Otherwise we will eventually have every player having every Champ passive and thus even less diversity than we have now.

All my friends are 500+ cps in PS4 (No charácter transfer)

100+ cps per DLC! PleASE.

Give a motivation for extra grinding XP, if not almost every player will have around 390 to 500 cps
and there will be almost no difference between grinders and casual players....

Xytrohs wrote: »

All my friends are 500+ cps in PS4 (No charácter transfer)

100+ cps per DLC! PleASE.

Give a motivation for extra grinding XP, if not almost every player will have around 390 to 500 cps
and there will be almost no difference between grinders and casual players....

Why would anybody actually WANT a reason to grind? Grinding is the würst. By that I mean it is terrible.

IMO it should be ZERO CP per quarter. It should stay capped at 501 untill they introduce a system that won't break the game in the future.