When the CP-System got released they said an average player gets about 1.5 CP per day. (?)
Thats 600k EXP. So lets say we get a raise fo 51 CP with that update. And after 3 month the next.
With each day of 100k enlightened EXP the average player would clearly hit that new cap within a month or less.
To wait 2 month more for the next cap is bad.
In my opinion a cap raise of 75 CP would be better. People at the current cap can still get a good amount of them, while the player below the 501CP(which are many as they said) can still catchup.

Btw: I have 270CP

The catch-up mechanic works in such a way that the larger the distance to CP cap, the faster one earns CP. Therefore, a larger cap increase wouldn't hurt players with low CP very much. OTOH, increasing 51 CP per quarter or something like that means nobody will be able to max their CP for many years to come.

If you ask me, CP were a terrible idea anyway. ZOS says they were meant to allow some color in builds, but what we have is true vertical progression. Is this what VR ranks are being removed for? The mind boggles...

I'm kinda surprised by the 51 and 501 numbers. I would have thought they'd go for round numbers to start with. Like 540, and then raise it by 60 each time out. Or start at 600, and, again +60 or +90, or some other round multiple of 3, rather than 51. It's not that I think 51 is too low, it's just a strange number.

If Cp is to be the lvl progression system....then it is the most lengthy one in history, taking 15 years to max out lol

I guess that's better than listening to the leets whine that they burned through 15 years worth of leveling in a month. (like we saw at launch)

nevermind

I thought there would be more interest in this topic since Champion Points will be the heart of the game after VR is removed. Apparently, there is more interest in whether or not it would be cool to play a zombie or dwarven construct. I'm not sure if that means people don't really understand the impact of CP or don't care about the future of the game, or what. If CP really is limited to only 204 annually, I only see playing this game when new DLC is released, so maybe 4 months of play time in a year. It won't make sense to subscribe, so there is a loss of revenue stream for ZOS. Oh, well, I probably play too much anyway.

I voted other because I don't think the plan is to increase it by the same amount each quarter. I expect that the first increase (or even the first couple of increases) will be lower than later increases.

Why do I think this? Because the CP system was out for about a year without any catch-up mechanism in place, so the gap between people who would grind out the CPs and people who played more casually grew to be very large. The catch-up mechanism where CPs cost fewer XP to get the fewer of them you have has started to close this gap, but I don't think enough of the player base is coming close to being caught up to the grinders yet, so I think that's why ZOS is only slowly increasing the cap at this point. Once more of the player base has caught up, I think we can expect to start seeing bigger cap increases.

I also think that they may be exercising some caution in increases due to the incoming removal of vet ranks. I think they want to see what effect the removal of vet ranks has on people playing alts before they decide what pace the cap should be regularly increasing.

Or at least, those are the things I would be thinking about if I was in charge of deciding how the cap would be increased.

All of you guys who say its too low seem to be forgetting why the CP cap was put in place in the first place. You remember the guy who soloed Molag bal on PC in the IC sewer event? The cap is never going to go to where it once was. Or else it will happen again. Then the game will be no fun anymore because everyone can solo everything and no need for grouping. This is an mmo not a skyrim copy. If you want to solo everything go play skyrim ok? The cap most likely will not go above 1,200. So for those who farmed to the CP cap becore orsinium, dont expect to see those CP again.

I have made ~ 50cp at a cost of 1.3 million per cp since the release of wrothgar.

If the don´t increase it with thieves guild and then go by only 51 cp every quater of a year i get to use the cp i have now middle of 2017. Rework the whole system but please i want character progression too.

Going with 99 for every update introduced with TG would be something i could get behind even though i´d like a system rework that allows for permanent minimal progression better than caps.

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It's about right. They want people to catch up not get trampled on. If people are such good players they won't mind the competition being the same skill/power level as them. If they do mind they need to get gud

It´s not about outleveling and stomping noobs - they could easily circumvent that by having a catchup questline putting you at ~50% of the current cap (cadwells gold/silver after vet removal anyone?).
People want character progression. With this announcement they´ve stated that i won´t have any character advancement for ALL of my characters for atleast 1.5 years.
I don´t think that´s acceptable.

People need to catch up... in a year or two i'm pretty sure we will get far more CP per year.
Maybe the idea behind this is that they don't want us to maximize the points we invest in CP.
CP... no clue if the idea was good to begin which in the first place but we ll see on the long game.
My only hope is that we don't have to maximize the CP in order to unlock some gears. For ex CP limit will soon be at 552 from 501. I do hope at if we are to unlock new gears we don't have to level all the way up to 552 but just few levels over 501. Was just an idea lol... i'm not even near 300CP

I am no where near the cap, but if it takes over a decade to get to 3600, it seems a bit long to me.

On the other hand, keeping it low makes the progression more horizontal as it is more about distributing than acquiring.

I am finally, almost to cap. I am a pretty good pvper, so it will be nice to feel on a equal playing field with CP from here on out with the best players.

BUT...

It doesn't feel right. Bear with me, and I'll tell you why..

You will now be able to stay at cap easily, simply by using enlightenment. (Currently, I can hit 5 or 6 CPs in 49 min of IC running solo with an XP pot, to give you an idea of how fast enlightenment goes) No one who plays semi-regularly will not be at the cap going forward. With maybe ~50 days until TG, and ~140 days until DB, that is 190 CP worth of enlightenment available between now and the first cap raise.

So this means anyone with 311 or more CP will be at the "old" 501 cap when it gets raised, and those with 362 will already be at the new cap, assuming they use up their 1 CP of enlightenment per day. (Which requires 2 hours / week max with XP pots, or maybe 4 per week without)

Some positive things are accomplished by this in combination with the removal of VR. A mostly level playing field is in place. And it is a lot easier for new players to hit max level, and practically trivial to max out an alt. When you consider that all zones are going to Orsinium-style level scaling, this means we have reached:

The End of Meaningful Level-Based Progression

Duh-duh-duh!! Well, who cares right? Maybe we all should. Maybe not. But, there is always going to be progression in an MMO. So here is what we have left to progress with:

- Crafting
- Alliance Rank grind
- vMA grind
- Undaunted grind
- Other RNG / BOP grinds

^^ Ladies and gentlemen, here we have the only ways that will be left to improve your character.

Now, are these bad? Not necessarily. But I don't think they are great either. Remember, much of the fun in MMOs is progression. If you feel like you can't log in and progress (i.e., the RNG is too unrewarding) in the future, it definitely impacts how many people will hit the "PLAY" button.

The alternative to all of this? Well, it has nothing to do with how many CPs we can gain per patch.

What I would go nuts for, is an actual, full-fledged EXPANSION PACK. Give us a new continent, or Vvardenfell to explore. Raise the ACTUAL level cap from 50 to 60. (Don't give me that "pay wall" crap either. MMOs have been doing exactly this for 15+ years). Give us new levels, gear and SKILLS to unlock. Give us Akaviri! Let us get on ships and sail to some unknown world.

In other words, let us play a game, not a chest-opening grind.

Thanks for reading this. I know it's not happening.