Would Maelstrom Arena benefit from a team mode?

Sharmony · February 2016

Only 1-man

EgoRush wrote: »

I understand where you and others are coming from with keeping the 1-man challenge. But this content could so easily be both; a 1-man challenge as it is along with an option as a due with a separate or no leaderboard.

Tbh, I think I prefer the idea of new content that is a 2-man arena whilst keeping vMA. How about something like this:
Master weapons came from a 4-man vDSA challenge

Maelstrom weapons from a 1-man vMA challenge

Set 3 weapons from a 2-man due chellenge?

If it were a duo you were right in the initial post, it would need to be scaled or it would be too easy. However, I have a degree of issue with accessibility of gear and how duo'ing it could unlock the best gear in the game for those who might not have the same skill level when compared to solo content (particularly if scaling is poor or if one individual could carry the other). Much like the new trial, I am glad gear is accessible to all in normal due to the lower drop rates but am much happier that no one individual can be carried in veteran when hoping to get increased drop rates

Btw, for those who might argue against this, I would prefer players being rewarded accordingly for skill otherwise what is skill even worth for. Tbh, in your idea Maelstrom 2man should drop everything besides rings and maelstrom weapons to make it a fair, maybe the introduction of a new set would be fair but even then, unless it's scaled correctly, and even if it is, there is a worrying element that one player could 'boost' another. Moreover, a new set that is only available in duo limits solo players as much as maelstrom now limits group players like myself into doing content specifically to get loot regardless on what scale the content is played

Autolycus · February 2016

Only 1-man

Having 2+ players in vMA would drastically undermine both its purpose and its difficulty. There are so many instances I can think of off-hand that would be a complete joke with two people. For one person, it's very challenging, yes. But I believe the fix to that is a checkpoint system (which I think they said they are adding, right?). Adding more players would make this easier than beating up Haskill with 501 CP at level 10.

Cuyler · February 2016

2-man challenge

I don't think the answer is to remove the solo content, but to have an option for those min/max group centric players to have another way to obtain those BiS items that doesn't involve them being forced into content they simply don't enjoy.

Forestd16b14_ESO · February 2016

Isn't that what Dragon Star Arena is ?

How ever I wouldn't object to a new 2 man thing in a future DLC. 4 groups are nice solo test your skills and traisl are jsut a cluster of wuts and then a 2 man thing will test your bonds with your friends and you'll love them or be cursing them out after wards XD

Emma_Overload · February 2016

Only 1-man

Some content designed for 2 players would be great, but they really need to fix the existing issues with vMA before anything else.

Dubhliam · February 2016

Only 1-man

EgoRush wrote: »

Dubhliam wrote: »

Seriously man?

If you don't like playing solo, then simply... DON'T.

There are plenty of 4 group dungeons, trials, vDSA etc.

There is only ONE solo arena.

I pay to play this game and love it. I don't find the new content difficult (having cleared it within 3 attempts). But I've been in a total of 9 times and I'm already bored of it. Yet, I go to Sanctum/AA/HRC/DSA over and over because I'm there with my friends working together. I play this game for the social aspect. I'm not saying to take away the 1-person challenge - simply paying attention and reading my original post would tell you that, I'm just imploring for an extra option.

And what I am saying is leave things as they are.

If you want a duo arena, ask for one. A new arena. Designed for two players and two players only.
There just might be other roles to fit in a duo arena than just pure damage builds.

Ethromelb14_ESO · February 2016

Only 1-man

I love the fact that only one person is allowed to do it, and it even ... perhaps, helps some players figure out where their weak spots are in their character build. I know quite a few it enlightened.

RAGUNAnoOne · February 2016

2-man challenge

Sounds like a lot more fun while malestorm is not fun at all. but we should have separate leaderboards for solo and duo

Kammakazi · February 2016

2-man challenge

2 people would be awesome for vMSA.

I'd have a buddy healer running Spellpower Cure / Combat Prayer for the boss fights.

And if he/she wanted to DPS, I'd switch to my healer too with the exact same setup above.

Aimora · February 2016

2-man challenge

Wanted a 2 person option right from the start

Wolfchild07 · February 2016

2-man challenge

Would be nice if all dungeons could accommodate 2, actually. Spawns should change due to group size.

revonine · February 2016

Just give me an option to save my progress.If I leave my leader board place is forfeit. Gives more casual players a chance at completing it and there's s till a chance at a weapon in the last chest anyway.

bedlom · February 2016

4-man challenge (like vDSA)

It would be nice. I am not a fan of forced solo content in mmorpg's tbh.

bountyspiter · February 2016

Only 1-man

EgoRush wrote: »

Maelstrom Arena is a 1-man challenge that takes even the best players not long under an hour to finish. In my experience, logging into ESO, an MMORPG, to play by myself for 1+ hours doesn't have much of an appeal.

1h maelstrom (for the end loot)
1h wrothgar dailies (for that perfect infused briar)
15 mins gold pledge (for them gold key shoulders)
2h trials with guild (optional)
1+h slacking around enjoying whatever it is you enjoy with friends
and ofc the neverending struggles of cyrodiil... (again optional)
lets see...we have a total of 6-7h of daily gameplay and we are not even close to logging out ^^
notice that i didnt even mention questing or exploring or playing with alts

so if you are just logging for the arena then you definately play the wrong game -.-

Vaoh · February 2016

Only 1-man

There is much more content planned for the future. Eventually, I'm sure ZOS will make some really difficult 2-man challenge trial. At least I hope they do!

But Maelstrom Arena.... I like to keep this as an extremely hard solo experience.

One thing to note is that ZOS will undoubtedly include a Master-class weapon for each ability in Weapon Skill Lines (5). Considering "Master" weapons come from vDSA, and "Maelstrom" weapons come from vMSA, it's safe to assume that three more arenas wil appear in the future.

Inarre · February 2016

2-man challenge

I agree a two man would be fun. It would be nice to have something to do with our mara partners

L2Pissue · February 2016

Only 1-man

maelstrom arena as 1 man challenge is fine as it is
go suggest making new trial for 2 or 3 or 4 or 9000 people, since the game does not have any end-game PvE beside maelstrom

Personofsecrets · February 2016

2-man challenge

2-man option with leaderboards or bust. more fun or nothing is the choice to make

EgoRush · February 2016

2-man challenge

bountyspiter wrote: »

EgoRush wrote: »

Maelstrom Arena is a 1-man challenge that takes even the best players not long under an hour to finish. In my experience, logging into ESO, an MMORPG, to play by myself for 1+ hours doesn't have much of an appeal.

1h maelstrom (for the end loot)
1h wrothgar dailies (for that perfect infused briar)
15 mins gold pledge (for them gold key shoulders)
2h trials with guild (optional)
1+h slacking around enjoying whatever it is you enjoy with friends
and ofc the neverending struggles of cyrodiil... (again optional)
lets see...we have a total of 6-7h of daily gameplay and we are not even close to logging out ^^
notice that i didnt even mention questing or exploring or playing with alts

so if you are just logging for the arena then you definately play the wrong game -.-

Not everyone has 6-7 hours per day they can put into the game. I lead a guild and put most of my effort into my team and ensuring we have every world record and are ready for taking on new trial content (such as vMOL coming out). I just know I'd get more playtime in vMA if I was going in as a unit, not alone (my opinion, not a demand).

So, yes, sometimes I log into the game solely to get my weekly vMA run done. Sometimes I log into the game solely to run a Sanctum group. Sometimes I log into the game solely for my crafting writs.

If I'm enjoying the way I play the game then I'm *definitely not playing the wrong game. You misinterpret my intention in creating this poll. I'm not saying to remove 1-man content (I solo'd every quest in the game before I bothered joining a guild practically). I'm trying to grasp the community's opinion on 1-man end game content and whether additional options for groups in the same content would be viable. So coming here and telling me how to play my game is hardly conducive to this discussion.

Grevier · February 2016

2-man challenge

voted for 2-man. But instead of msa i'd prefer a new arena for 2.

EgoRush · February 2016

2-man challenge

Grevier wrote: »

voted for 2-man. But instead of msa i'd prefer a new arena for 2.

I agree. I'm thinking I should've simply done a poll for preferred group size on future content...ha.

Sausage · February 2016

Only 1-man

Maybe next arena should be 2-man?

efster · February 2016

Only 1-man

I would absolutely love a future 2-person challenge, but vet Maelstrom would be a faceroll with more than one person. It's a challenge in the first place because you have to do everything yourself.

EgoRush · February 2016

2-man challenge

Okay in light of the feedback I'm seeing here I've arranged another thread to get an idea of future content we'd like to see. Check it out here:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/249936/new-content-what-would-you-like-to-see

Woeler · February 2016

2-man challenge

How I would love to do this with a buddy! At least with 2 people! We're playing an MMO for gods sake!

Septimus_Magna · February 2016

4-man challenge (like vDSA)

I would prefer 4-man group content because its usually more dynamic, with multiple different classes, builds etc.

If vMSA had 2-man option tank/healer builds could also complete it without changing their entire build.

Would seem fair based on the "play how you want argument".

GoliathYT · February 2016

2-man challenge

two man would be great,
I love the idea.

actosh · February 2016

EgoRush wrote: »

Sharmony wrote: »

It's good to have at least one single piece of challenging solo content in the game (There is nothing else unless you begin soloing trial bosses for fun). As much as I am a group player I still enjoy proving to myself that I can be one of the best in my class independently in an environment that actively supports playing it solo I admit it wasn't well placed, Wrothgar needed a trial, not some solo content, that I believe should've come afterwards so we could then play both new contents without feeling frustrated in wanting new group content. This I strongly believe was the biggest downfall in Maelstrom (along with no save function for less skilled / time free players)

I understand where you and others are coming from with keeping the 1-man challenge. But this content could so easily be both; a 1-man challenge as it is along with an option as a due with a separate or no leaderboard.

Tbh, I think I prefer the idea of new content that is a 2-man arena whilst keeping vMA. How about something like this:
Master weapons came from a 4-man vDSA challenge

Maelstrom weapons from a 1-man vMA challenge

Set 3 weapons from a 2-man due chellenge?

^There will be as much vdsa,vmsa type stuff as u have skillslots. So we look at 5 overall, also there are 3 to come if they continue that road, wich was clear when they introduced vdsa.

Next a 2 Player trial would be a lot of fun. Could be Kinda Hard to make Leaderboards for it, but if u think about it for around 5 Minutes it is easy to come up with a solution for this.

1. Duo DK Team Leaderboard
2. Duo NB Team Leaderboard
3. Duo Sorc Team Leaderboard
4. Duo Temp Team Leaderboard
5. MIXED LEADERBOARD

It would also push the reason to replay that stuff, but yeah, just some ideas out of my head.

When VR Ranks are gone, DONT make items equipable based on a certain ammount of CP @ZOS_GinaBruno , it is a huge fail if a company decides to let created content die and it come to uselessness. Be smarter than the other ones and be sure ppl will buy the dlcs anyway ^^

Dekken_Blake · February 2016

2-man challenge

I would really like to see more 2-player instanced content. Its very easy to get one other person to go adventuring with. A buddy and I went and duoed a lot of the 4-man pledge and craglorn dungeons (or just got as far as we could) just for the challenge. It would be nice to see more content catered to that.

andy_s · February 2016

Brand new 4-man dungeons and 12-man trials is all PvE ppl need

2-man will work fine too I guess.