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Magicka build and heavy armor

teladoy
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I was thinking that I would like to try to create some kind of balance build where I focus on magicka and also survivality with heavy armor. The question is if it would make sense or not, because anyways I would not do enough damage to kill anyone and also from the other side I would just die more slow but in the end die without almost chances.

I would like if people with experience can tell me something.

And the other question is if regeneration in combar is important like max magicka and magicka recovery as focus stats or should I go better max magicka and spell power?
Edited by teladoy on February 17, 2016 11:43AM
  • Ballcap
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    I run a heavy armor, magic based templar. I use the spell damage stone. My unbuffed spell damage is 2501. I have one piece of light armor (the belt) so I can get a small boost from the light armor passives.

    I'm ok at PvP. I kill some people and I also die sometimes. One nice thing I've noticed with the heavy armor is that I do not get one-shot too often anymore. I go with a resto staff and have Dark Flare, Purify, Radiant Magelight, Repentance, BoL, and Ult Barrier this is for PvP.

    In PvE I use an ice staff (because it's fun). Aurora Javelin, Puncturing Sweeps, Destructive Reach, Toppling charge (Flex spot), Radiant Destruction or BoL or Dark Flare depending on scenario. Ult can be whatever suits the situation. What I like about the ice staff is that the aurora javelin knocks them backward, and destructive reach with the ice staff freezes them in place, and by that point I hit them with a heavy attack, radiant destruction, or dark flare because they aren't moving for a while. You have time for a longer cast/high damage ability.

    In PvE I like to go with recovery (purple drink) and in PvP I like to go with max stats (purple food). As far as champion points go you are likely better off with spell power and spell cost reduction than recovery.

    I know I'm not "optimal" but it works and I'm effective. Most importantly for me is that it's a fun way to go.

    PS4 AD Altmer Templar VR16
    Edited by Ballcap on February 19, 2016 7:07PM
  • ButtersEP
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    If your a casual player and don't plan on doing the harder content in the game that's fine, you can get away with just about any build for casual players.

    If you want to be successful in the harder content, as a magika user you want to be in mostly or all light armor, you can go 1 heavy 1 medium for the undaunted mettle passive and a little more physical and spell resistance & still gain some of the passives from the heavy/medium tree.
    teladoy wrote: »
    I was thinking that I would like to try to create some kind of balance build where I focus on magicka and also survivality with heavy armor. The question is if it would make sense or not, because anyways I would not do enough damage to kill anyone and also from the other side I would just die more slow but in the end die without almost chances.

    I would like if people with experience can tell me something.

    And the other question is if regeneration in combar is important like max magicka and magicka recovery as focus stats or should I go better max magicka and spell power?

  • Ballcap
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    ButtersEP wrote: »
    If your a casual player and don't plan on doing the harder content in the game that's fine, you can get away with just about any build for casual players.

    If you want to be successful in the harder content, as a magika user you want to be in mostly or all light armor, you can go 1 heavy 1 medium for the undaunted mettle passive and a little more physical and spell resistance & still gain some of the passives from the heavy/medium tree.


    I know that what Butters said is the current sentiment here but I couldn't disagree more. I do just fine on the harder content. I'm currently soloing my way through Craglorn and the Imperial City without much issue. I've killed emperors and multiple enemies in PvP. I've also been killed many many times but so has everyone else. People who tell you that you "have" to play a certain way are wrong. You absolutely can do just fine playing in heavy armor using magic - even on the harder content.
  • ButtersEP
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    When I say harder content I mean Vet MSA or Imperial City Prison, craglorn and imperial city are questing / farming zones.
    Ballcap wrote: »
    ButtersEP wrote: »
    If your a casual player and don't plan on doing the harder content in the game that's fine, you can get away with just about any build for casual players.

    If you want to be successful in the harder content, as a magika user you want to be in mostly or all light armor, you can go 1 heavy 1 medium for the undaunted mettle passive and a little more physical and spell resistance & still gain some of the passives from the heavy/medium tree.


    I know that what Butters said is the current sentiment here but I couldn't disagree more. I do just fine on the harder content. I'm currently soloing my way through Craglorn and the Imperial City without much issue. I've killed emperors and multiple enemies in PvP. I've also been killed many many times but so has everyone else. People who tell you that you "have" to play a certain way are wrong. You absolutely can do just fine playing in heavy armor using magic - even on the harder content.

  • AverageJo3Gam3r
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    What class? If sorc or nightblade, it's not worth it as you get your survivability from shields or cloak. Mag DKs commonly use heavy armor and 1HS because the class lacks mobility and strong self heals (in PvP).
  • Acsvf
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    PVP or PVE? What class? And what do you mean by magicka- dps, healing, tank?
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  • Savos_Saren
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    This is just a cut and paste from a previous post... but the armor/jewelry/weapons might be what you're looking for. I don't know what class/race you are:

    I have a very aggressive PVE Dunmer Magicka DK Tank. Here's his setup: Attributes: 64/0/0 Mundus: Atro

    5pc Kagrenac's Hope- Heavy armor, Divines (for the extra health, regen, magicka, and dmg)

    3 Pc Willpower: (extra magicka and spell power- arcane, all spell dmg enchants)

    2 Pc Valkyn Skoria: Light Armor, Divines (extra health & fire dmg) It proccs off all your DoTs and does AOE fire that synergizes with World in Flame passive.

    2 Pc Torugs Pact: My DPS bar has two nirnhoned swords. My Tank bar has a Defending Mace and Divines Shield.

    DPS Bar: Burning Embers, Molten Whip, Inner Light, Structured Entropy, Eruption, and Shooting Star

    Tank Bar: Green Dragon Blood, Pierce Armor, Volatile Armor, Draw Essence, Igneous Shield and Corrosive Armor.

    I chose the three Mage's Guild skills over DragonKnight Skills because the Mage's Guild passives help add max magicka, increase magicka regen, Procc the passive "Might of the Guild" and Entopy causes Major Sorcery (not to mention 8% extra health for tanks!)

    Good luck!
    Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.

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    Savos Saren
  • kaithuzar
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    This is a PVP build or PVE tank.
    Use magic & stam recovery drinks for PVP & tri-stat food for PVE

    The only way to do this effectively is to use either 5 piece willows-path (which has been speculated to possibly be broken & not receiving all of the potential recovery %'s based on order of operations with how they implemented the math behind it).
    But it still kinda works.

    The other thing is to use 5 piece seducer.

    It really helps to be either a breton, or even better a high elf.
    Prismatic enchants on small armor pieces help resources to where they need to be & recovery drinks + atro mundus stone are what makes this work.

    I typically play a heavy armor magic nightblade. You may chose to use siphoning attacks to help resource management, molag kena is really nice to get damage numbers where they need to be, also the use of spell damage + detection potions.

    -Kai
    Edited by kaithuzar on February 22, 2016 1:08AM
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