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ataggs✭✭✭✭allen-iverson wrote: »LEAVE STEVE ALONE!!!!!!!!
He's NICE AND HIS JEANS ARE EXPENSIVE
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Of all the slander in the thread, this hurts most.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I will say, y'all making Teargrants jealous. Since this thread I get so many random hate tells, it's absolutely amazing.
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“Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, and great minds discuss ideas.” -Eleanor Roosevelt- Fix Volendrung (spawn location - weapon white on the map causing the wielder to keep it forever - usable with emperorship)
- Remove / Change CPs System, remove current CP/noCP campaigns and introduce one 30days with lock, one with no locks
- Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
- Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
- Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
- Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
- Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
- Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
- Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
- Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
- Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
- Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
- Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
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- Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
- Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
- Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
- Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
- Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
- Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
- Fix Rams going crazy (spinning around)
- Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
- Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
- Introduce dynamic population
- Lower population cap by 20%
- Add Snare Immunity potions
- Bring resurrection sickness
- Fix character desync
- Fix cc breaking bug
- Fix gap closer bug
- Fix health desync
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Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Leave Steve alone, he runs a Rapids Build, there's no room for single target skills :P
Actually, he's on magicka now so there's no learning curve for the next patch when everyone needs to be running harness and prox det because wrobel reasons.
He even guilts me into abandoning my troll templar to run the speeds. smh.
Steve is gonna play magika? smh, that's like hearing the sky is green
Tell me about it.
But guild success comes over my preference and pride in this case. Magica is clearly insanely OP for group play next patch
I really don't get the deal over ambush spam. My bar in that fight is as follows:
1. Retreating Maneuvers
2. Steel Tornado
3. Fear
4. Dark Cloak
5. Ambush
I had about 4.2k stam regen and 45k stamina. It's a raid lead build for spamming speeds and keeping the group moving and active on me. I have no single target but Ambush. If you didnt want to get ambush spammed you shouldnt have ganked a templar. Deal with it lol.
TY for the kind words Lexy, miss ya over here.
I don't think people mind so much the Ambush spamming itself; since there is multiple skills spammed in this game
I think they just don't like it cause the mini stun attached to it.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I don't think people mind so much the Ambush spamming itself; since there is multiple skills spammed in this game
I think they just don't like it cause the mini stun attached to it.
Everyone hates Ambush because they don't realize or refuse to recognize that a 1 second immobilize is part of its design -- completely outside of the mechanism shared by all gap closers.
Even if the gap closer mechanism was removed from the game, spamming Ambush would still perma-immobilize, just like spamming every other immobilize in the game does.Edited by zyk on February 20, 2016 7:59AM1 -
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complaining about a gap closer, broken sure. if it wasn't broken, still complaining. no complaints about crit rush? stampede? if toppling wasn't locking skills up, someone would spam that too. its not about sorcs,its about everyone complaining about spammed skills repeatedly. if classes had more skills that worked correctly and we had more options there would be more variety.0 -
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complaining about a gap closer, broken sure. if it wasn't broken, still complaining. no complaints about crit rush? stampede? if toppling wasn't locking skills up, someone would spam that too. its not about sorcs,its about everyone complaining about spammed skills repeatedly. if classes had more skills that worked correctly and we had more options there would be more variety.
How is this relevant to this video when op is a stam dk?0 -
Fasoo✭✭✭✭Good stuff man. Honestly I think ambush should be a 1 shot kill.Edited by Fasoo on February 20, 2016 5:36PM0
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✭✭✭alecfaso24_ESO wrote: »Good stuff man. Honestly I think ambush should be a 1 shot kill.
It would certainly make my rotation less complex if this were the case.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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Vilestride✭✭✭✭✭alecfaso24_ESO wrote: »Good stuff man. Honestly I think ambush should be a 1 shot kill.
It should grant a damage shield equal to 100% of your health to like the other morph of leap. I mean, they're both gap closers only makes sense.Edited by Vilestride on February 20, 2016 9:54PM0 -
Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Leave Steve alone, he runs a Rapids Build, there's no room for single target skills :P
Actually, he's on magicka now so there's no learning curve for the next patch when everyone needs to be running harness and prox det because wrobel reasons.
He even guilts me into abandoning my troll templar to run the speeds. smh.
Steve is gonna play magika? smh, that's like hearing the sky is green
Tell me about it.
But guild success comes over my preference and pride in this case. Magica is clearly insanely OP for group play next patch
I really don't get the deal over ambush spam. My bar in that fight is as follows:
1. Retreating Maneuvers
2. Steel Tornado
3. Fear
4. Dark Cloak
5. Ambush
I had about 4.2k stam regen and 45k stamina. It's a raid lead build for spamming speeds and keeping the group moving and active on me. I have no single target but Ambush. If you didnt want to get ambush spammed you shouldnt have ganked a templar. Deal with it lol.
TY for the kind words Lexy, miss ya over here.
I´m afraid to ask at this point - do you know there is a second bar where you can slot another 5 skills? You unlock that at lvl 15!<Noricum>
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Elong✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Leave Steve alone, he runs a Rapids Build, there's no room for single target skills :P
Actually, he's on magicka now so there's no learning curve for the next patch when everyone needs to be running harness and prox det because wrobel reasons.
He even guilts me into abandoning my troll templar to run the speeds. smh.
Steve is gonna play magika? smh, that's like hearing the sky is green
Tell me about it.
But guild success comes over my preference and pride in this case. Magica is clearly insanely OP for group play next patch
I really don't get the deal over ambush spam. My bar in that fight is as follows:
1. Retreating Maneuvers
2. Steel Tornado
3. Fear
4. Dark Cloak
5. Ambush
I had about 4.2k stam regen and 45k stamina. It's a raid lead build for spamming speeds and keeping the group moving and active on me. I have no single target but Ambush. If you didnt want to get ambush spammed you shouldnt have ganked a templar. Deal with it lol.
TY for the kind words Lexy, miss ya over here.
I´m afraid to ask at this point - do you know there is a second bar where you can slot another 5 skills? You unlock that at lvl 15!
Bar 2:
1. Retreating Maneuvers
2. Retreating Maneuvers
3. Retreating Maneuvers
4. Retreating Maneuvers
5. Retreating Maneuvers0 -
Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Leave Steve alone, he runs a Rapids Build, there's no room for single target skills :P
Actually, he's on magicka now so there's no learning curve for the next patch when everyone needs to be running harness and prox det because wrobel reasons.
He even guilts me into abandoning my troll templar to run the speeds. smh.
Steve is gonna play magika? smh, that's like hearing the sky is green
Tell me about it.
But guild success comes over my preference and pride in this case. Magica is clearly insanely OP for group play next patch
I really don't get the deal over ambush spam. My bar in that fight is as follows:
1. Retreating Maneuvers
2. Steel Tornado
3. Fear
4. Dark Cloak
5. Ambush
I had about 4.2k stam regen and 45k stamina. It's a raid lead build for spamming speeds and keeping the group moving and active on me. I have no single target but Ambush. If you didnt want to get ambush spammed you shouldnt have ganked a templar. Deal with it lol.
TY for the kind words Lexy, miss ya over here.
I´m afraid to ask at this point - do you know there is a second bar where you can slot another 5 skills? You unlock that at lvl 15!
I mean, God knows there's nothing else to put on my back bar. Nothing useful to group play like SnB reflect, caltrops, evasion, Relentless Focus, vigor, camo hunter, mist form, sap essence and siphoning attacks for resource return, Etc.
Do you even understand the concept of tank/support builds?Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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Vilestride✭✭✭✭✭Leave Steve alone, he runs a Rapids Build, there's no room for single target skills :P
Actually, he's on magicka now so there's no learning curve for the next patch when everyone needs to be running harness and prox det because wrobel reasons.
He even guilts me into abandoning my troll templar to run the speeds. smh.
Steve is gonna play magika? smh, that's like hearing the sky is green
Tell me about it.
But guild success comes over my preference and pride in this case. Magica is clearly insanely OP for group play next patch
I really don't get the deal over ambush spam. My bar in that fight is as follows:
1. Retreating Maneuvers
2. Steel Tornado
3. Fear
4. Dark Cloak
5. Ambush
I had about 4.2k stam regen and 45k stamina. It's a raid lead build for spamming speeds and keeping the group moving and active on me. I have no single target but Ambush. If you didnt want to get ambush spammed you shouldnt have ganked a templar. Deal with it lol.
TY for the kind words Lexy, miss ya over here.
I´m afraid to ask at this point - do you know there is a second bar where you can slot another 5 skills? You unlock that at lvl 15!
Bar 2:
1. Retreating Maneuvers
2. Retreating Maneuvers
3. Retreating Maneuvers
4. Retreating Maneuvers
5. Ambush
Close man. Fixed for you though, I got your back.Edited by Vilestride on February 21, 2016 12:29AM2 -
Zheg✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Leave Steve alone, he runs a Rapids Build, there's no room for single target skills :P
Actually, he's on magicka now so there's no learning curve for the next patch when everyone needs to be running harness and prox det because wrobel reasons.
He even guilts me into abandoning my troll templar to run the speeds. smh.
Steve is gonna play magika? smh, that's like hearing the sky is green
Tell me about it.
But guild success comes over my preference and pride in this case. Magica is clearly insanely OP for group play next patch
I really don't get the deal over ambush spam. My bar in that fight is as follows:
1. Retreating Maneuvers
2. Steel Tornado
3. Fear
4. Dark Cloak
5. Ambush
I had about 4.2k stam regen and 45k stamina. It's a raid lead build for spamming speeds and keeping the group moving and active on me. I have no single target but Ambush. If you didnt want to get ambush spammed you shouldnt have ganked a templar. Deal with it lol.
TY for the kind words Lexy, miss ya over here.
I´m afraid to ask at this point - do you know there is a second bar where you can slot another 5 skills? You unlock that at lvl 15!
I'll give you some benefits of the doubt and assume you don't have similar experiences like most pvpers where lag is typically so bad that weapon swap is unreliable and sometimes results in the completely wrong skill you wanted to go off to be used. I'll also assume you don't follow the general setup that most pvpers do in having one bar be for attacking and one for healing/mitigation/utility. Hmmm, looking at his bar, one MIGHT think he's running skills like purge/vigor/immovable/quick cloak/double take/relentless focus/caltrops/or any number of other beneficial skills on his back bar. Simple truth, if he had WB slotted on his bar, he would have been using that and this wouldn't have been no 'thang because WB spam is more skillful
. Simple truth, he's raid leading and focusing on group play which means you can either pull a *insert well-known DC emp name here* and spam steel tornado against a single opponent, or you can use ambush instead because it's the only single target ability you have slotted.
With that said, there are maybe two dozen players who have ever led a large raid group, so I'll also give you the benefit of the doubt in not knowing what that's like in terms of your own bar layouts and playstyle. When you lead, you spend more time panning your camera, watching the flanks, in your map, watching group health bars and shield %s, trying to remember who is running what ult and whether it's up, trying to remember how many healers went afk, etc. - that even the best 1v1ers play at half mast when leading. Your bars are setup for leading, not for a 1v1.
If you encountered a group healer whose only attack on the bar was prox det or blazing spears, would that make for a gripping video? Probably not. This guy was salty he died, and the majority of cranky people in here are probably trying to say their peace while they can because they know they'd have a lot of trouble taking steve on in a 1v1 when he's actually set up for that and not raid leading. The fact that this is still going is hilarious.Edited by Zheg on February 21, 2016 12:58AM6 -
Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I appreciate it Zheg but it's ok. If the thread bothered me I'd report it for naming and shaming. As is its just saving me a trip to whole foods to refill my salt shakers.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Leave Steve alone, he runs a Rapids Build, there's no room for single target skills :P
Actually, he's on magicka now so there's no learning curve for the next patch when everyone needs to be running harness and prox det because wrobel reasons.
He even guilts me into abandoning my troll templar to run the speeds. smh.
Steve is gonna play magika? smh, that's like hearing the sky is green
Tell me about it.
But guild success comes over my preference and pride in this case. Magica is clearly insanely OP for group play next patch
I really don't get the deal over ambush spam. My bar in that fight is as follows:
1. Retreating Maneuvers
2. Steel Tornado
3. Fear
4. Dark Cloak
5. Ambush
I had about 4.2k stam regen and 45k stamina. It's a raid lead build for spamming speeds and keeping the group moving and active on me. I have no single target but Ambush. If you didnt want to get ambush spammed you shouldnt have ganked a templar. Deal with it lol.
TY for the kind words Lexy, miss ya over here.
I´m afraid to ask at this point - do you know there is a second bar where you can slot another 5 skills? You unlock that at lvl 15!
I'll give you some benefits of the doubt and assume you don't have similar experiences like most pvpers where lag is typically so bad that weapon swap is unreliable and sometimes results in the completely wrong skill you wanted to go off to be used.
Oh i have those. I just think it´s a shame you can get away with such a setup in a large grp because in a small one you can´t.
Which is kind of ironic. The people directly responsible for lagging out the server are the ones that can create builds where they essentially never have to switch bars to avoid a problem they´ve created themselves with their playstyle - everyone suffers because of them.
On top of that those people run around and proclaim that as skillfull min maxed large grp play and get all upset when you call it zerging and come to the forums in hordes aswell to support their fellow brethren.
Pathetic.Edited by Derra on February 21, 2016 10:26AM<Noricum>
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✭✭✭✭Leave Steve alone, he runs a Rapids Build, there's no room for single target skills :P
Actually, he's on magicka now so there's no learning curve for the next patch when everyone needs to be running harness and prox det because wrobel reasons.
He even guilts me into abandoning my troll templar to run the speeds. smh.
Steve is gonna play magika? smh, that's like hearing the sky is green
Tell me about it.
But guild success comes over my preference and pride in this case. Magica is clearly insanely OP for group play next patch
I really don't get the deal over ambush spam. My bar in that fight is as follows:
1. Retreating Maneuvers
2. Steel Tornado
3. Fear
4. Dark Cloak
5. Ambush
I had about 4.2k stam regen and 45k stamina. It's a raid lead build for spamming speeds and keeping the group moving and active on me. I have no single target but Ambush. If you didnt want to get ambush spammed you shouldnt have ganked a templar. Deal with it lol.
TY for the kind words Lexy, miss ya over here.
I´m afraid to ask at this point - do you know there is a second bar where you can slot another 5 skills? You unlock that at lvl 15!
I'll give you some benefits of the doubt and assume you don't have similar experiences like most pvpers where lag is typically so bad that weapon swap is unreliable and sometimes results in the completely wrong skill you wanted to go off to be used.
Oh i have those. I just think it´s a shame you can get away with such a setup in a large grp because in a small one you can´t.
Which is kind of ironic. The people directly responsible for lagging out the server are the ones that can create builds where they essentially never have to switch bars to avoid a problem they´ve created themselves with their playstyle - everyone suffers because of them.
On top of that those people run around and proclaim that as skillfull min maxed large grp play and get all upset when you call it zerging and come to the forums in hordes aswell to support their fellow brethren.
Pathetic.
Are you that removed from reality? I mean, I guess when the next patch forces everyone to more or less play like solo ranged magicka dps and the lag is STILL there, it will finally prove to those dense enough to think the performance issues are due to 'balls' and not sheer numbers at a keep that you should sit down, sink in your chair, and try and pretend like you haven't been parroting utter falsehoods for the past few months/years.
Running builds optimized for group play has pros and cons, and if you're too shortsighted to only look at one then frankly any kind of intelligent conversation is impossible. Take the healer build I mentioned in my previous post, do you know how many times someone in a pure group build is caught on the backline or running back from an afk and then are put at a significant disadvantage to those running a build meant for 1v1s or 1vXs? You're complaining about someone being able to run more support and utility skills than you, but when you run across a healer with only blazing spears on their bar something tells me you're not going to complain that you have an advantage because you have more attacks and CCs slotted. My bars look very different when I'm leading, when I'm solo, when I'm in a large group, and when I'm in a small group. Learn when and who to engage so that you have the advantage on your side and then maybe you wouldn't die as much and be such a salty mofo.
No one really gets upset when people like you toss around the word zerging. In fact, most end up laughing at you, particularly when you say groups shouldn't be bigger than 5. The supermajority of solo and small groupers I come across are embedded in gigantic hordes or trolling pugs at a resource, neither of which require the massive amounts of skill you seem to think.
Oh, also, how about you come lead a raid or play in a large group so you aren't talking out of your *** - when you're able to take on 60+ with 20 and win, or another top tier pvp guild with similar numbers and win, then you'll actually be in a position to talk about the skill involved in large group play. Until then, enough with the armchair bravado.Edited by Zheg on February 21, 2016 6:59PM5 -
Derra✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Leave Steve alone, he runs a Rapids Build, there's no room for single target skills :P
Actually, he's on magicka now so there's no learning curve for the next patch when everyone needs to be running harness and prox det because wrobel reasons.
He even guilts me into abandoning my troll templar to run the speeds. smh.
Steve is gonna play magika? smh, that's like hearing the sky is green
Tell me about it.
But guild success comes over my preference and pride in this case. Magica is clearly insanely OP for group play next patch
I really don't get the deal over ambush spam. My bar in that fight is as follows:
1. Retreating Maneuvers
2. Steel Tornado
3. Fear
4. Dark Cloak
5. Ambush
I had about 4.2k stam regen and 45k stamina. It's a raid lead build for spamming speeds and keeping the group moving and active on me. I have no single target but Ambush. If you didnt want to get ambush spammed you shouldnt have ganked a templar. Deal with it lol.
TY for the kind words Lexy, miss ya over here.
I´m afraid to ask at this point - do you know there is a second bar where you can slot another 5 skills? You unlock that at lvl 15!
I'll give you some benefits of the doubt and assume you don't have similar experiences like most pvpers where lag is typically so bad that weapon swap is unreliable and sometimes results in the completely wrong skill you wanted to go off to be used.
Oh i have those. I just think it´s a shame you can get away with such a setup in a large grp because in a small one you can´t.
Which is kind of ironic. The people directly responsible for lagging out the server are the ones that can create builds where they essentially never have to switch bars to avoid a problem they´ve created themselves with their playstyle - everyone suffers because of them.
On top of that those people run around and proclaim that as skillfull min maxed large grp play and get all upset when you call it zerging and come to the forums in hordes aswell to support their fellow brethren.
Pathetic.
You're complaining about someone being able to run more support and utility skills than you, but when you run across a healer with only blazing spears on their bar something tells me you're not going to complain that you have an advantage because you have more attacks and CCs slotted. My bars look very different when I'm leading, when I'm solo, when I'm in a large group, and when I'm in a small group. Learn when and who to engage so that you have the advantage on your side and then maybe you wouldn't die as much and be such a salty mofo.
I don´t complain about someone being able to run more support abilities than i can - i complain that those people create builds that essentially function with one bar because weaponswitch is to unreliable due to the lag they´re jointly responsible for. I complain that running these builds is possible in a grp large enough and it becomes beneficial to clutter your barspace with buffs to maximise the effect of the one or two skills you´re actually using in a fight.
Also i always love those l2p comments keep em coming.Edited by Derra on February 21, 2016 7:17PM<Noricum>
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