Well now, that's lame.

Gorthax wrote: »

ZoS cant handle something of that nature. Though games in the late 90s did it pretty well. FF11 did mac/pc/xbox/ps2/ps3 no issues. Sad ZoS cant do the same

Well, maybe company policies have changed a lot since the late 90s? The console manufacturers nowadays certainly see their respective networks as continuous sources of revenue, even, or especially after the initial sale of the hardware. Today it's hardly imaginable that Sony would allow for PS traffic to be routed to the Xbox Live network, and vice versa.

Maybe consoles are such a voluminous market, that routing all the traffic of all platforms to a singular regional server just isn't viable. It's not that people complain enough about lag already...

The whole Microsoft/Sony proprietary systems aside the PC players would destroy the console players if they were allowed to mingle. That being said when Windows 10 goes live there should be know issue software wise for Xbox and PCs to play together.

Gorthax wrote: »

Let me fix that for you $$$$$$$$$$$$$ thats the only reason we, as gamers (not divided gamers), cant play with each other. Without the feeling of competition of which platform is better, with the never ending war between the two systems, we will never see cross platform games anymore. They are a thing of the past.

What can I say? You're right? But that's that's hardly the fault of ZOS then, is it? What we're seeing here is the 21st century equivalent of mercantilism, and we as customers can only completely abstain, or else we're automatically supporting the system in place.

MAOofDC wrote: »

The whole Microsoft/Sony proprietary systems aside the PC players would destroy the console players if they were allowed to mingle. That being said when Windows 10 goes live there should be know issue software wise for Xbox and PCs to play together.

XBox figured the could make more money by limiting games to the XBox platform so they let PC games wither away. Time will tell if they change after the release of Windows 10.

Remember Microsoft did steal borrowed Apple Sauce from Apple's Macintosh in the 80's as the basis for Windows. But to be fair Bill Gates did tell them to copyright their stuff and they didn't so......

Amsel_McKay wrote: »

wrlifeboil wrote: »

MAOofDC wrote: »

The whole Microsoft/Sony proprietary systems aside the PC players would destroy the console players if they were allowed to mingle. That being said when Windows 10 goes live there should be know issue software wise for Xbox and PCs to play together.

XBox figured the could make more money by limiting games to the XBox platform so they let PC games wither away. Time will tell if they change after the release of Windows 10.

Microsoft are more upset that they did not come up with Steam on PC because they want more PC users then Xbox users, their CORE business is PC software (Windows and Office). With Windows 10 they want more PC users and I wonder if the new version of "XBOX" will just be a pre-made PC with Windows 10 and them launching a steam like platform.

They can care less about home users of Windows 10....

Seriously I actually work in the industry for a very large global software reseller. The publishers of professional software do not care about a couple hundred thousand personal users as that is not where the money is at. The money is at having O365/Google Docs for every business user and Windows OS on every business desktop, Azure/Amazon Web Services as the back end for every business process, and SQL/Oracle the database for every business application.

Now Microsoft does want people to adopt their product at home as it helps continue their dominance in the market (Blackberry anyone?) but it is not their primary focus as an organization and really would be an after thought outside the smaller entertainment/media arm of the company.

In the end if Microsoft wanted to they could force a lower cost PC Gaming store on you to push out competition but why do that when they have a closed ecosystem in the Xbox Console? Basically Windows gets the benefit of being a middle ground between Linux and OSX while Microsoft still having the closed off ecosystem of Xbox. In the end they are in perfect position to benefit off the hard work of Steam while getting a good portion of the console revenue stream that is much more predictable and is controlled by major publishers like EA as opposed to smaller publishers and independent game developers you find much more widely on PC.

In the end PC/Console is about to get a lot closer and further away as Microsoft continues its move to incorporate the ability to play xbox one games on the go with a Windows 10 machine while making the XboxONE not PC the center of the living room. People are more willing to buy into a console as a media hub than a PC in mainstream as a plug'n'play is all the rage. Why do you think people get roku/fireTV/appleTV and others instead of just hooking up a HDMI cord to a PC or running it through another service? Console is the ultimate plug'n'play device with TV, Media, Gaming, Streaming all in one.

since all Zos is able to do is mess everything up . so how do u think they will be able to do as OP has ask for?

wrlifeboil wrote: »

Microsoft missed on search engines (Google) and mobile phones (Apple) so not much surprise they would miss anything but they didn't miss on PC games. They just got beat by Steam. Remember Games for Windows Live?

The massive failure of GFWL is kind of what made Steam such a success in the first place. I'd call that a miss. They have been actively focusing on Xbox as a games market and have basically shafted PC gamers continuously since the development of it.
You need to go back further. Prior to 2000, if you were playing online games you HAD to use a PC. Even with the advent of online gaming with the Dreamcast and Playstation 2, PC was the overwhelming dominant online machine. This changed over time as internet connections became better and consoles became more powerful. Microsoft had ample opportunity to hold its monopoly on PC gaming and actively chose to focus on Xbox. As a result, it lost its monopoly on PC gaming and Valve simply filled the hole.

lsneakl wrote: »

In the end PC/Console is about to get a lot closer and further away as Microsoft continues its move to incorporate the ability to play xbox one games on the go with a Windows 10 machine while making the XboxONE not PC the center of the living room. People are more willing to buy into a console as a media hub than a PC in mainstream as a plug'n'play is all the rage. Why do you think people get roku/fireTV/appleTV and others instead of just hooking up a HDMI cord to a PC or running it through another service? Console is the ultimate plug'n'play device with TV, Media, Gaming, Streaming all in one.

There's no reason for anyone who owns an actual gaming PC to use an Xbox One to play games or use their PC to play Xbox One games. Literally none, unless you want Xbox One exclusives. All of the peripherals for Xbox One work for PC and pretty much every major title release is also on PC. That had to be the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time when I heard Microsoft chose to market that way.

People buy Roku because they don't want to mess with multiple functions. Consoles are simpler to use than PCs. There are also space concerns (laptops might not fit on an entertainment center, etc.) and accessibility to the physical functions are also reasons people prefer TV made devices. People also buy devices to conform and just because they are new.

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

ZoS has stated many many many time even all the way back in 2013 beta that they will not being doing cross platform.

They also said it would never be F2P. Had to.

Spottswoode wrote: »

There's no reason for anyone who owns an actual gaming PC to use an Xbox One to play games or use their PC to play Xbox One games. Literally none, unless you want Xbox One exclusives. All of the peripherals for Xbox One work for PC and pretty much every major title release is also on PC. That had to be the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time when I heard Microsoft chose to market that way.

People buy Roku because they don't want to mess with multiple functions. Consoles are simpler to use than PCs. There are also space concerns (laptops might not fit on an entertainment center, etc.) and accessibility to the physical functions are also reasons people prefer TV made devices. People also buy devices to conform and just because they are new.

Well PC player can today buy Steam link which basically make your PC in to console and with everything steam you have alot of game you can play on TV even ESO if you have buy on steam and have wireless keyboard, mouse or game control i dont see any limited to play in your liveroom I have steam link and steam control man that is really nice to play on TV and i try out Euro Trucker with need keyboard and control no problem use steam control which you need program.

I try to login to ESO through steam link but it did not work for i dont have on steam saddly but other then that i would say if want cheap console just buy steam link it work well

More like cross-continent, let Japaneses join to EU servers, and we no doubt get 1 PVP Campaign more. If EU PS4 cant get 2 good Campaign, Japan isnt going to do it alone either, so that said, they go to Japan and if they dont get one good Campaign, Japan is goodbye for good. Best is just to merge and think in advance.

So this always comes to Microsoft this and Sony that....

Let's be real....the game has server issues in all platforms, so merging them together which then creates a situation where everyone had to wait on certification prior to patches and DLC in addition to the lag that already exists is a major problem and good reason to never mix.

Then you have the obvious where PC supports addon, consoles have their own voice chat and neither console supports full mouse and keyboard gaming in ways PC allows. It's just an extremely bad idea for many reasons. The cross-play that Xbox and win 10 are coming up with isn't much better....it seems good for some reasons and it is bad for other reasons.

I think the game is best seperated until some massive ZOS server issues are resolved and more services are offered as you'd need to balance the almost 1 year head start that PC had for PvP reasons as well as economy reasons where ppl literally duped millions of in game gold and items for console copy.